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Apr 19th 2015 at 1:00:41 PM

[up][up]I agree. The scene builds it up that they are GONE. Quasi has matured and had to face the harsh reality.

And, in the musical, they DO disappear after that scene. There is an entire song dedicated to it called 'Made of Stone' where Quasi screams at them that all their advice has lead to bloodshed and pain and awful events and he demands that they leave him alone.

GARGOYLES All right, Quasimodo/We'll leave you alone All right, Quasimodo/We'll trouble you no longer You're right, Quasimodo/We're only made of stone We just thought that you were /Made of something stronger

GARGOYLES turn back to stone as they always were

QUASIMODO And now I'm on my own/Never again to wonder what's out there/Let it remain unknown And my one human eye/Will evermore be dry/Until the day I die As if I/Were made of stone!

The last segment of the song, or my interpretation at least, is that Quasimodo realizes he can't be 'Made of Stone' and the words ring hollow and he comes to the understanding that he needs to face what is wrong in the world and do something about it.

Apr 19th 2015 at 1:06:06 PM

Make the Gargoyles of the live action version to be Broadway, Hudson and Lexington, and no one will have a problem with them anymore. tongue

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Apr 19th 2015 at 1:06:49 PM

...I'm not getting the joke...

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Apr 20th 2015 at 7:53:19 PM

You're familiar with the stage adaptation of Hunchback? Did you see it at the La Jolla Playhouse or the Papermill, or something else?

edited 20th Apr '15 7:53:37 PM by Pannic

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Apr 20th 2015 at 8:46:00 PM

[up]I've seen recordings of the German version and I have audio recordings of the La Jolla version. I absolutely adored it.

Apr 20th 2015 at 10:28:27 PM

I'm assuming bootleg audio of it? Sweet.

Yeah, it was a great production. Though if that was audio only, you missed out on the best part of "Flight Into Egypt."

edited 20th Apr '15 10:28:42 PM by Pannic

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Jun 3rd 2015 at 9:42:55 AM Coming soon: Indie Company Calamities!
Jun 3rd 2015 at 10:55:01 AM

[up]To be fair, that was more of an expansion movie that was distributed by Disney, but not produced by them.

Still, trying to remake Fantasia seems pointless. There's only so much outstanding classical music that they can pick.

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Jun 3rd 2015 at 5:49:51 PM

[up]Why remake it? Fantasia was intended to be a Spiritual Sequel series with animation shots set to music. Just make a new one and explore animation, don't remake it.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I.
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Jun 3rd 2015 at 6:15:01 PM

...This has to be a joke. It's gotta be.

Fantasia in live action?

The whole idea behind Fantasia was to show what animation could do. Most of the sequences in the movie wouldn't work in live action, or come off badly with CGI. And even if you tried new sequences in that spirit, it still wouldn't work.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
Jun 3rd 2015 at 8:02:00 PM

[up][up]My guess is that Fantasia 2000 was a semi-flop, so they want to cash-in with a remake. Now, why they want to do it in live-action... beats me.

[up]They oughta have done it in 3D animation, imo.

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Jun 3rd 2015 at 8:35:19 PM

I don't see how you could remake Fantasia in the first place.

Like, what are you going to do about the live action bits?

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
Jun 3rd 2015 at 8:36:35 PM

You change the live action bits to animated bits, of course.

Jun 4th 2015 at 2:56:40 AM

I will be forever bummed about them cancelling Fantasia 2006. Judging by the segments they already prepared for it, it was set to become the best of the Fantasia movies. Destino alone is a beauty to behold.

But, yeah, a live action version of it would go against the very idea behind the movie. And The Great Mousedetective is a movie I want to see a TV-show adaptation of. I am honestly confused that Disney didn't plan one four years ago when the craze about Sherlock Holmes was on an all-time high, especially since The great Mousedetective was a decent success and is very beloved. But perhaps they have trouble with the book rights.

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Jun 4th 2015 at 3:24:25 AM

Disney generally tries to pretend they did nothing between its early classics before Disney died and The Little Mermaid. Which is why I find it shocking when I hear things like a Jungle Book Musical is in production considering how rarely they acknowledge that era happened.

And, yes, it would be a great sin to recreate a film series based on the very premise of being animation as an art form, and make it Live Action.

Jun 4th 2015 at 5:52:32 AM

Well, while Jungle Book was released after Walt died, he still worked directly on it (as in having artistic and story input, unlike Sword in the Stone, which I suspect is part of why the later is more ignored than Jungle Book).

Part of the problem with adapting A Night at Bald Mountain of all things is the series has no visible hero, just an antagonist figure who ends up being defeated by a non-corporal presence. But a live action movie needs a hero, so they'll have to create one from cloth, and... there's so much that can go wrong with that. You have to create someone who will be a credible match for someone who's already perceived as Disney's ultimate evil figure (even if he does actually little). Good luck with that tall order.

The other alternative is trying to make Chernabog sympathetic, which is an even worse idea than doing the same for Maleficent.

edited 4th Jun '15 5:53:05 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

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Jun 16th 2015 at 2:37:45 PM

I've started to realize something. This is becoming akin to Disney churning out Direct-to-Video sequels to their animated films. Both are easy cash grabs, though at least the live action side involves bigger budgets and potentially better talent.

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Jun 16th 2015 at 2:57:29 PM

This is worse than the DTV cashgrabs. These are actually seeing theatrical release.

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Jun 16th 2015 at 6:17:02 PM

[up] We can hope that one of these potential projects flops. That'll get the mouse house to push the breaks.

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Jul 7th 2015 at 7:00:34 AM

Sorry for the double post, but this new one kinda counts…

It's Prince Charming's turn. Any of them!

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Jul 7th 2015 at 11:43:57 AM

'Maleficent sequel' .

Oh come on! Where are they even going to take the story from there?

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Jul 8th 2015 at 2:11:08 PM

[up]I'm wondering the same thing. Did the movie really leave anything that could lead to a continuation?

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Jul 9th 2015 at 6:29:33 PM

FYI, the German Hunchback and the English Hunchback are very different shows, despite both being based on the Disney movie. The English version has songs not in the German version (Flight into Egypt included), cuts out the gargoyles completely and replaces them with a chorus that takes on multiple roles (arguably the whole cast is a chorus, of the Man of La Mancha-group-of-people-putting-on-a-play type), and adds back characters from the book, including Jehan, and restores Frollo's characterization as the archbishop.

Both versions do (rather surprisingly for an the Americana adaptation) restore Esmerelda's deaththough.

edited 9th Jul '15 6:32:14 PM by Sisi

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