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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#8576: Oct 7th 2019 at 12:51:57 PM

Say what you will about Pete he's a versatile actor capable of taking on any real you give him

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Maljen Since: Jan, 2015
#8577: Oct 7th 2019 at 3:24:44 PM

wild mass guessObviously Pete would be an unknowing front man for Spoonerville's F.O.W.L. agent. His many flaws would make him unsuitable as an agent, but handy as a means to acquire cash and/or distract attention.

The Spoonerville F.O.W.L. agent of course is Peg. Who'd expect a real-estate saleswoman to be engaged in world larceny?

Edited by Maljen on Oct 7th 2019 at 3:54:31 AM

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#8578: Oct 7th 2019 at 3:41:20 PM

Unless the Spoonerville F.O.W.L. agent is Max Goof... a.k.a. the Funzo mascot, a.k.a. The Phantom Blot. ;)

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8579: Oct 7th 2019 at 4:00:59 PM

I didn't know Peg was a real estate agent. Guess it didn't really come up much.

Most of Disney's big hit characters are very versatile. Treating some characters, like Mickey, Goofy, Donald, and Pete, like actors rather than strictly established characters was a brilliant move.

Optimism is a duty.
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#8580: Oct 7th 2019 at 4:38:07 PM

Universal-Adaptor Cast definitely applies to Mickey and company.

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#8581: Oct 7th 2019 at 5:05:55 PM

[up][up]Didn't Peg's profession come up in the pilot, where she was the one selling Goofy his new house? I can't remember exactly.

Maljen Since: Jan, 2015
#8582: Oct 7th 2019 at 5:15:37 PM

Peg's job was key in the episode where Pete uses Goofy as his personal handyman since the two were working on a house Peg wished to sell. So it was key at least once.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#8583: Oct 7th 2019 at 5:18:23 PM

In the first episodes Peg was trying to sell the house next door to her and Pete's house, and Pete kept scaring away buyers by doing things like making the house shake. He did this because if the house was seen as "unsellable" then he could knock it down and build like, a pool or something? Or a bigger shed for his boat? He wanted to use the lot for something anyway. Then Goofy came along, none of Pete's typical scare tactics worked and Goofy bought the house.

Edited by WillKeaton on Oct 11th 2019 at 8:07:37 AM

MetalMichelangelo Since: Nov, 2012
#8584: Oct 11th 2019 at 6:56:20 PM

With Daisy showing up in season 3, what if April, May and June were to come along like Legend of the Three Caballeros?

BrightLight from the Southern Water Tribe. Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#8585: Oct 11th 2019 at 7:21:47 PM

[up] As long as it's not an excuse for the writers to smack Donald around even more...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
BrightLight from the Southern Water Tribe. Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#8587: Oct 11th 2019 at 8:17:09 PM

[up] Except when you write him as a sympathetic, layered and developed hero.

The Three Musketeers movie treated him better than this show ever did.

Also, there is a reason why people started hating SpongeBob SquarePants when Squidward was written sympathetically and yet was still abused by the other characters.

Edited by BrightLight on Oct 12th 2019 at 4:20:52 AM

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#8588: Oct 11th 2019 at 9:18:32 PM

[up]Uh, sure, but Donald's misfortune comes more from natural things happening to him, rather than other characters being mean-spirited jerkasses to him, your example is not a good comparison.

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#8589: Oct 11th 2019 at 9:29:46 PM

Donald not being the butt monkey goes against the natural order. His purpose is to have life crap on him but keep going because he's too stubborn to give up

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#8590: Oct 11th 2019 at 9:49:27 PM

Squidward gets pooped on because he's pretentious and everyone dislikes him.

Donald gets pooped on because he's just an unlucky angry duck-person.

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BrightLight from the Southern Water Tribe. Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#8591: Oct 11th 2019 at 11:55:39 PM

You guys just ignored the part where I said the times when Squidward gets crapped on despite being written sympathetically those times.

[up][up] So, Donald's entire misadventure to the Moon not even being given a proper payoff by the story is good and appropriate for the natural order? I beg to differ.

Three good critiques from the Reddit thread for the Season 2 finale (warning for spoilers):

Won't lie. Wasn't a big fan of Donald being stranded on an island. His message to Earth ended up having no impact and he didn't even contribute much to the day being saved. It's weak storytelling because his trip to the moon had relatively little impact, as Penumbra could have came to the same realization about Lunaris on her own. I may also be a stick in the mud but I didn't like the melon thing. It undermined what should have been an extremely emotional reunion. I know Della and Scrooge already got that, and Scrooge and the boys, but the season was building up to this and they decided that was the time to crack jokes.

Let's just hope that Donald truly has a role to play in season three. He was a non-factor for most of season one and MIA for most of season two. They need to actually let him be a real character now.

— Benevolay

Yeah, I agree with all of this, Donald being the show's butt monkey is feeling really unwarranted. It's not like other interpretations where he's kind of a troublemaker and deserves it, he's just a poor guy who raised three kids and needs a break but the world just shits on him. At least he got SOME sentimental stuff, like the bit about him singing Della's moon lullaby, but it wasn't much.
— Jake_The_Silent

But I do want to talk about the Della and Donald Reunion because I felt like that wasn't given the time and justice that it should have. I feel like it lacked the emotional impact that it had compared to Della and Scrooge's Reunion, and of course her Reunion with Huey, Dewey and Louie. Obviously it's going to be more emotional with her kids, but I felt like even with Scrooge, it felt more emotional. There was a hug, there was a conversation, it just had more to it, while Donald and Della felt kinda rushed. I'm not saying there weren't any emotions, but it wasn't enough. Donald has lived for so many years, thinking that Della is dead. His sister. It affected him so much, that he avoided meeting Scrooge and changed his life as he had to take care of the kids. Maybe I'm nitpicking, I don't know, but I was hoping for more.
— FossorialFlyover

Edited by BrightLight on Oct 13th 2019 at 8:01:23 AM

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#8592: Oct 11th 2019 at 11:59:05 PM

He's barely ever written sympathetically and the Butt-Monkey in the same episode.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8593: Oct 12th 2019 at 3:47:54 AM

You guys are ignoring the comics again. Donald is not nearly the chew toy in the comics as he is in the cartoons.

Optimism is a duty.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8594: Oct 12th 2019 at 5:25:04 AM

Are the comics relevant in this case, other than for comparison?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8595: Oct 12th 2019 at 5:30:25 AM

Well, I just tend to think of Comics Donald first, but I suppose that's different for Americans.

Optimism is a duty.
jessicadicicco610 Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#8596: Oct 12th 2019 at 6:03:32 AM

The Ducktales comics are more popular internationally than they are in America, hence why when people in America think of Scrooge, Donald, and so forth, it's almost always the cartoons. It doesn't help that there are more comics involving the classic characters produced for international audiences instead of American audiences despite the characters originating here. As proof of this, Gladstone's first appearance in this series apparently takes inspiration from the Italian comics , which any regular fan would not know of. Donald's slightly nicer personality is also from the comics.

As for the whole "Donald is too much of a butt monkey who's not used in the story enough", it could be that they're saving this up for season 3. Given that he goes to a therapist, he could let out more about how he feels in season 3, whether to him or not.

To combine my first 2 points, the only show that gives Donald a definitively happy ending is the one where he's the main character, Legend of the Three Caballeros , which is made more for international audiences, and has been out for over 1 year before coming to America.

Edited by jessicadicicco610 on Oct 12th 2019 at 6:07:01 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8597: Oct 12th 2019 at 6:07:10 AM

As for the whole "Donald is too much of a butt monkey who's not used in the story enough", it could be that they're saving this up for season 3. Given that he goes to a therapist, he could let out more about how he feels in season 3, whether to him or not.

Plus Della's return and assumption of parental duties for the boys might give Donald an opportunity to do things for himself that he probably hasn't had a chance for in ages.

For example, get a girlfriend.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 12th 2019 at 7:08:27 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#8598: Oct 12th 2019 at 6:09:25 AM

give donald a boyfriend and call him José

what?!

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#8599: Oct 12th 2019 at 6:09:32 AM

A girlfriend that he doesn't keep in touch with?

Like Daisy Duck?

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8600: Oct 12th 2019 at 6:48:42 AM

I suspect Disney has a moratorium on Donald getting another girlfriend. Why else is Daisy the go-to girlfriend all the time?

Optimism is a duty.

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