General Politics Thread

Case in point: Xi Jinping banning Winnie the Pooh in China because he doesn't like being compared to the character.

This is the man who is running China.

Edited by M84 on Sep 27th 2018 at 10:18:31 PM

Evil Is Petty. The most common type of evil that you can find in a dictatorship.

The trope of the calm always cold dictator is so fake.

Ahhh the red emperor of china.

because he wants to act like a damn anime villian, he better well damn be call like one.

Next day: Anime is banned from China.

I'm wondering what he would do with Donghuas (Chinese Anime) in that case.]]

To clarify, this person's view is that Killmonger is a symbol of oppressed masses wanting to rise up. This symbol is vilified and destroyed.

That's the idea they are getting at.

Sounds like your friend has an issue with Black-and-White Morality, in which such groups are incapable of wrongdoing simply because of their motives and circumstances. Therefore any attempt to depict them as fallible must be an attack on their very existence. It's psychological splitting.

Edited by AlleyOop on Sep 27th 2018 at 1:35:05 PM

Is being compared to Pooh even a bad thing?

Heck if I know. I'm not a petty autocrat with no real checks to my power.

the venezuelan goverment have acused to fireman to almost 20 years for incitation of hate by comparing him with a donkey.

So yeah, petty as hell.

I do think they have a point about Killmonger... but I think the mostly black cast and crew had a very specific point to make about race issues and what are good and bad ways to deal with them.

As for pettiness in Politics? Hate it. Politicians should be more level headed than the people they represent.

Well, they should.

Not really. But a common thing with dictators and dictator-like rulers seems to be a lack of sense of humour.

At least if said humor targets them.

See also: Trump's reaction to being roasted by Obama over his birtherism crap.

Edited by M84 on Sep 28th 2018 at 9:58:30 PM

Polar: well, I can get why because T´challa is pretty much the very child of privilage: he dosent have to deal(that much) with white people mocking him and can shurg off most thing in general, hell when Eric father die, he was left alone incapable of knowing what happen and fend from himself in america, when T´challa father dies, he decide to start a damn manhunt that provoke tons of trouble and kinda got away with it.

Dictator humor: yeah in general dictator life a life mark by being agresive towards....everyone, therefore their humor mark by a constant need to punch someone, ANYONE.

Trump is a good example os someone who want to atack everyone but said is unfair when is done to him, Chavez make a habit or demining the oposition as sell outs, Maduro does the same, the list goes on.

Hitler liked Charlie Chaplin and I think he liked The Great Dictator - please correct me if I'm wrong.

So, one of the most notorious dictators in history at least had a sense of humour that these other creeps don't have. Weird to think eh?

It's less that dictators don't have senses of humor but rather that they don't have senses of humor when it comes to their power, and their image is a very important part of that. I'm not saying banning Pooh was the right move but I think from that perspective it's somewhat understandable.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 28th 2018 at 11:36:50 AM

I've said before that the CCP is very sensitive about their image as powerful capable leaders. They will interpret damn near anything as a threat, whether it is or isn't in reality. And because it's mainland China, there is nothing to keep them from banning things they don't like.

So what's the deal with the term "White Liberal"? It seems to have negative connotations, but I'm not sure I get it.

Like, is the idea that these people are naive about how the world works because they're white and aren't affected by the difficulties of minorities? These people then expect good things to be easy to achieve and are shocked when it isn't?

Or is it a phrase used by the so called Alt-Right to make White Liberals seem more pathetic or hypocritical? Is it even a good or useful phrase? Was it originally useful but then got corrupted by despicable losers?

White Liberal is a term used for minorites to mock Liberals who have a extremely White Savior vision of the world despite claiming to not.

And yeah, is a insult. But is far from being a Alt-right one.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Oct 4th 2018 at 5:27:25 AM

Is a termn just like white feminism or brogresive that talk that some people who have liberal politics but a very privilage and downright conservative view of other people and minorities, making very frustrating them to deal with.

'Liberal' as a pejorative against white "progressives" is not a recent thing, as well. A good example of a song criticizing 'white liberals' is this Phil Ochs song:

'Liberal' as a pejorative against white "progressives" is not a recent thing, as well. A good example of a song criticizing 'white liberals' is this Phil Ochs song:

It doesn't help that non-Americans Liberals are more like Libertarians and thus are shitty progressives at the best of times. Weakening authority only really benefits the already powerful and privileged groups.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 5th 2018 at 9:32:06 AM

Part of it is also differentiation between the new socialist-identifying movements in the US and the liberal groups they sorta share a voting bloc with, and the fact that the members of the latter often opposed to the broad social reforms advocated by socialist groups tend to be white.

Since we're on White Liberals (tm), I'm reminded of an article someone else posted in OTC that seemed related. Basically, it claimed that one big reason politics in the USA have become more and more polarized is because one of the major parties has slowly become less of an old white boys' club. The op-ed argued that the parties had an easier time compromising as long as they both had a mutual understanding that white male straight privilege had to be preserved.

So maybe a big part of why Conservatives — at least in the USA — despise "libruls" even more now than they did in the past is because the Liberals aren't all White Liberals (tm) anymore.

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2018 at 6:15:09 PM

Very interesting.

Sorry to go back to Black Panther, but I just learned something.

See, that Communist claimed the ending sucked because they just gentrified Oakland or something along those lines.

Now, I just looked it up. That's not what Gentrification is. According to Wikipedia:

"Gentrification is a process of renovating deteriorated urban neighborhoods by means of the influx of more affluent residents. This is a common and controversial topic in politics and in urban planning. Gentrification can improve the material quality of a neighborhood, while also potentially forcing relocation of current, established residents and businesses, causing them to move from a gentrified area, seeking lower cost housing and stores."

Needless to say this doesn't happen. T'Challa makes an outreach centre - of black people for black people. And isn't this the sort of thing Communists want? Redistribution of wealth?

But I must say, I am disappointed. I may have found this person irksome, but I at least thought they were smart. Or smart enough to fact check.

I mean, is this Gentrification and I'm being a dick about it? By all means, call me out if I'm wrong.

Well, if it's for wealthy black people then it might still be gentrification. The concept is about class, not race. Need more details, though.