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Deadlock Clock: Oct 22nd 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1: Aug 5th 2014 at 9:08:04 AM

A follow-up to the discussion here forward in Trope Description Improvement Drive. Two (or three) problems were noted:

  1. Title is a line of dialogue.
  2. Only 15 wicks and 17 inbounds.
  3. "Hold my glasses. I'm gonna fight this guy." is the entire description, pretty much. Which is especially bad since the YKTTW had a much better description.

This trope is about someone getting rid of certain objects that can act as an obstacle before a fight.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2: Aug 5th 2014 at 10:11:58 AM

opening

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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#3: Aug 5th 2014 at 10:18:21 AM

I think that, for starters, we can switch the description for the YKTTW's, which is much better.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#4: Aug 5th 2014 at 10:18:41 AM

Here's what I suggested in the other thread:

We have The Glasses Come Off. Why don't we just transplant that one to the supertrope of "removing items of clothing or accessories before getting into a fight." instead of keeping it limited to " a nerd or bookworm takes off his Nerd Glasses before fighting and is revealed to be physically capable" and find a new name for the narrower trope.

To expand, right now, The Glasses Come Off is a very narrowly defined trope, where a nerd or bookworm takes off his glasses before displaying physical ability in a fight. It only applies to glasses, it only applies to nerdish/bookish characters, and using the strictest reading as it's written, it only applies the first time they get in a fight, because after that, the audience knows that they're a Badass Bookworm, and there's no "revealing that they are physically capable" anymore.

I stand by my suggestion: Transplant that name (The Glasses Come Off) to the broader supertrope currently covered by Hold My Glasses, expand it to include other accessories besides Glasses (but not coats, jackets, or capes — that's already covered by The Coats Are Off), and cut the stub Hold My Glasses.

edited 5th Aug '14 10:20:12 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: Aug 5th 2014 at 10:32:07 AM

Only worry about the transplant is that The Glasses Come Off has so many inbounds that it may be a subtrope already with its current definition. I see other sites using it as well with that definition.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
theAdeptrogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#6: Aug 5th 2014 at 2:10:54 PM

Maybe we can rename Hold My Glasses and use it as the supertrope and let The Glasses Comes Off become one of its subtropes (as the definition is quite thriving on its own), related to The Coats Are Off. Especially since the YKTTW description of the former doesn't actually limit the trope to spectacles.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Oct 19th 2014 at 12:49:05 AM

Clock is set.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
doubleyouteeeff Political ends as sad remains will die from (Hudson) River running right on over my head Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
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#8: Oct 19th 2014 at 10:03:15 AM

I agree with 6; leave The Glasses Come Off where it is and rename Hold My Glasses to make its broader nature clear.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9: Nov 19th 2014 at 9:02:14 AM

Clock expired and stale; locking.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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