BoJack Horseman

That, and the art style, and the characters being humanoid-animal hybrids.

I could see it taking place in the same universe.

We have confirmation that Season 5 will air on September 14 straight from the horse's mouth.

Let's see what this new season has in store. And I hope it shows he's on his way to recovery and doesn't get more crap thrown at him.

I am banking on this season (or sixth if they have any loose ends to deal with) being the final one. Seems like this is the point where the show wraps up and close out for good.

And then there's a renewal for about a jillion episodes lol.

On one hand, I want the show to end before Seasonal Rot sets in, so I wouldn't mind if Season 5 or 6 were the show's last. On the other hand, the show being a Long Runner where Bojack and everyone else continue to experience highs and lows season after season fits the show's theme of happy endings and closure not being real.

I recall reading an interview with Raphael Bob-Waksberg where he said that the show could move on from Bojack and focus on different characters.

I could watch a season of Meow Meow Fuzzyface

I just posted in the Looney Tunes thread, which reminded me: I've thought for a while that BoJack Horseman would be even better if it had a Looney Tunes art style. Or not exactly LT, but a throwback to classic golden-age theatrical cartoons. It's a perfect fit for this world where humans and talking animals coexist with no explanation and it would juxtapose beautifully with the show's themes.

If they move on from other characters, then I hope they change the title because then it would be an Artifact Title.

Yeah, it feels odd to have BoJack Horseman without, you know, BoJack Horseman.

After BoJack? BoJack and Company? Hollywoo RFD? BoJack's Place?

Edited by alanh on Jul 3rd 2018 at 8:19:09 AM

Okay, about... eight months (yet only one page) late, but a #Me Too! inspired episode could be good... but it cannot be about Bojack facing accusations. Like, that would fundamentally not work. If they're false accusations, the Unfortunate Implications are obvious. The last thing in this world we need is a show having a message of "don't listen to the accuser." And if he did it, it would either make him utterly unsympathetic at best, or be downplaying these acts at worst.

Personally, I'd be happier if the show kept tackling these themes without making references to specific real-world events.

He already tried to have sex with a high school senior and stalked her while on drugs a year later. In fact, if they do a storyline around Me Too or something analogous, I suspect that's going to come back to bite him.

To be honest, in retrospect I think Bob-Waksberg and his staff went too far with the Penny stuff. They did try to do some stuff to mitigate it, but in light of #Me Too! I have often asked myself if I felt comfortable following Bojack (the character, not the show) anymore after he almost did something like that. He's still an extremely well-realized and complex character and I love the show but I think them setting up the situation with just Charlotte like they originally plannedwould have still been sufficiently scummy to work with the plot.

So, couple things:

• I can only handle feeling depressed for so long, so last month, I kinda skipped most of season 2 and all of season 3 and went straight to season 4. Totally worth it for that BoJack smile.
• Also, starting this September, BoJack Horseman will start appearing in regular TV, namely Comedy Central, right after the season 22 premiere of South Park. So great news if A) you don't have Netflix and B) you didn't want to attempt other totally legal methods to watch it.

Have a trailer to celebrate:

If Bojack Horseman is getting syndication on TV, I wonder when we'll see a DVD/Blu-Ray release.

If the show does end up bringing up Me Too, it could go a few different routes:

1) What Bojack did to Penny might return to haunt him

2) Hank Hippopopalous might finally get some comeuppance

3) This one's admittedly a stretch and just my personal idea: Mr. Peanutbutter gets hit with an accusation.

Bojack probably instead of escaping from responsibility owns up to the fact he almost did something terrible.

Maybe even reflect upon that if he doesn't become a better person, then he could end up like "Uncle Hankie" who didn't care what he did to his victims.

Honestly, when you look at "Out to Sea"... BoJack didn't actually do anything legally wrong. As Penny herself pointed out at the time, she was of legal age for New Mexico, she hadn't had anything to drink, and she was coming onto him. Not exactly the ripest fodder for the #Me Too! movement, as we - the audience - had already seen it play out in real-time, and are fully aware of just how much BoJack regrets even entertaining the idea, as seen in Season 3's premiere "Start Spreading the News".

Thing is, that largely hasn't been the thrust of the Me Too movement - though I'll say that it could be interesting if Penny's allegation prompts others to come forward that BoJack had subjected to sexual harassment during his career (e.g. Ethan's mother), as that would make for an interesting mix. But as I said on the preceding page, the problem is that he may either be Easily Forgiven in-universe, or be on the receiving end of what the audience sees as a Heel–Face Door-Slam, where his attempts at becoming better are All for Nothing because of idiotic things he'd done in the past.

Edited by ironballs16 on Aug 12th 2018 at 5:42:44 AM

That was kinda the point though: Bojack wasn't doing anything legally wrong, but morally it would have been extremely horrible and as someone who's over twice Penny's age he should have known better.

@M84

Weird seeing how I always considered the episode “Hank After Dark” the Me Too episodes.

Anway for the three suggestion:

1) They already touch upon that with the third season premiere and the 11th episode of the third season (as well as parts of season 4, specifically that Stupid Piece of Shit episode).

2) Might most likely happen, especially considering who Hank Hippopotamus is based on (Bill Cosby).

3) That would be a stretch, but will be an interesting plot line to see Mr. Peanutbutter dealing with such accusation (which is pretty far out considering the guy’s character).

Er... I don't think an episode that came out in 2015 can count as the Me Too episode. It was a precursor to it, sure, but it also ended on a note of strongly doubting things would ever change. In which sense I think it became part of that larger movement where we've seen Cosby and Weinstein finally being prosecuted, but that does make the situation drastically different compared to where we were even when Season 4 came out, in September of last year.