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#1426: Feb 20th 2020 at 1:14:14 PM

Hes so floof

A huge upgrade from his horrible original design

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1427: Feb 20th 2020 at 1:17:04 PM

He's certainly not the cool and easy going dude he's been portrayed as previously since Adventure.

Or the too cool for school dude with an attitude that American media categorized him as.

I could picture this Sonic evolving into his later characterization, with this movie showing what he was like before he fully became the hero we all know.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1428: Feb 20th 2020 at 2:23:07 PM

[up][up][up] Ah, I remember that. With Knuckles and his Nice Hat.

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#1429: Feb 20th 2020 at 4:44:31 PM

Ah yes! The OVA movie! I'm actually planning on reviewing that on my You Tube Channel this weekend!

Edited by Rabbitearsblog on Feb 20th 2020 at 5:17:07 AM

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1430: Feb 20th 2020 at 4:59:49 PM

I dunno if we'll ever see the OVA again. The rights kinda got tied up when ADV Films went belly up over a decade ago.

Plus I don't think Paramount will want to drive attention away from their Sonic movies for another. It's kinda like how we never saw a Blu-ray release of the 80s Transformers movie for years because Paramount wouldn't say yes to it.

Edited by Mario1995 on Feb 20th 2020 at 8:04:21 AM

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#1431: Feb 20th 2020 at 5:26:58 PM

Paramount doesn't really have any say in what the rights holder does and doesn't reissue. If Sega had the rights and wanted to, they could absolutely reissue the OVA.

And the 80s Transformers movie has had multiple home releases. They even delayed the release of one of them specifically to tie-in to the 2007 movie.

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#1432: Feb 20th 2020 at 5:44:22 PM

I actually tried to find the Sonic OVA on Amazon. But the only copy they had was one that was for over $100, which I'm not willing to pay for.

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1433: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:03:44 PM

[up]No points for guessing why the prices for it are so high right now. tongue

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1434: Feb 20th 2020 at 8:17:14 PM

Pollock being Eggman’s most consistent voice isn’t that worth being disgusted over.

Cast replacements are inevitable over a Long Runner's lifespan, but the Sonic franchise had a specific changing of the guard where everyone who wasn't Mike Pollock got the shaft.

Whatever executive thinking went into that decision disgusts me.

Edited by Soble on Feb 20th 2020 at 8:18:23 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#1435: Feb 20th 2020 at 8:38:05 PM

I don’t see what’s disgusting about it.

Sure annoyed is a reasonable feeling but disgusted is overkill unless something actually bad was done.

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#1436: Feb 20th 2020 at 9:46:35 PM

[up] I think they meant the decision to lay off all but one voice actor in one go can come off as "you all put together ain't worth as much as him alone".

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#1437: Feb 20th 2020 at 9:54:21 PM

[up] That's not what happened, though. They went to recast everybody, Eggman included, Pollock just happened to still have the strongest audition for him over anyone else.

We don't even know if the rest of the 4Kids cast even chose to reaudition.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#1438: Feb 21st 2020 at 2:48:25 AM

Ya know I'm genuinely baffled that executives thought that original Sonic design would be well received by general public like transformer and teenage mutant ninja turtles were .-.

Only way that makes sense to me is that to the executives, the TMNT and Transformer movie models looked ugly and stupid in first place, so whats another design like that.(to be fair, they don't look good in either movie yeah :p) Like it kinda sounds like decision made by someone who doesn't like stuff they are imitating

Also checking pictures from internet, I'm genuinely confused why the owl lady or the lizard people concept art look so much better than Sonic's design was tongue What

Edited by SpookyMask on Feb 21st 2020 at 12:52:54 PM

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#1439: Feb 21st 2020 at 2:55:45 AM

From here

According to animator Max Schneider, Paramount expected that Sonic fans would object to the redesign but that general audiences would not care, as had been the case with their 2014 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film. He said Paramount felt the design gelled with the real-world setting and characters.

Holy shit Paramount are stupid....

Edited by miraculous on Feb 21st 2020 at 2:56:53 AM

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#1440: Feb 21st 2020 at 3:02:40 AM

I think the main difference was that both Transformers and Ninja Turtles were able to present enough characters in the trailers so that you could see the recurring design scheme (like the Technology Porn of the robot transformations or the Divergent Character Evolution with the Turtles). Whereas here, even in the finished movie, Sonic stands mostly alone and so all we have is this one character to look at. I think most people have said that if they kept the movie the same the original design probably would have been a make-or-break deal.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#1441: Feb 21st 2020 at 3:57:22 AM

I just can't understand that argument when Detective Pikachu exists. That movie had Pokemon ass Pokemon and no one questioned how realistic it was.

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#1442: Feb 21st 2020 at 5:20:46 AM

let's face it there were a lot of pokemon in a movie about pokemon so it was relatively normal,by contrast,Sonic stands out as one the few solely CGI characters in his movie so of course he stands out

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#1443: Feb 21st 2020 at 5:39:05 AM

In a plot where you explicitly make him an alien, yeah, maybe he should stand out. Or maybe we should stop doing the Alvin and the Chipmunks thing. They didn't have to force a bunch of normal people or a road trip into this.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#1444: Feb 21st 2020 at 7:27:45 AM

That movie had Pokemon ass Pokemon and no one questioned how realistic it was.

There were several reviews complaining that DP didn't explain where Pokemon came from.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#1445: Feb 21st 2020 at 7:35:35 AM

Pokemon exists from the viewpoint of humans. Sonic always had an uphill battle because humans are downplayed in favor of the animal characters, calling into question the value of a live action adaptation.

I will say, it WAS nice to see people warmly receive the change. Forgiveness? On the internet?

Edited by KJMackley on Feb 21st 2020 at 7:37:12 AM

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1446: Feb 21st 2020 at 8:16:06 AM

If Knuckles plays a role in the sequel then a great way to establish his troubled past would be to have Robotnik send his army to kill all of his fellow echindas and somehow frame Sonic for their murders. While it's intended to drive a wedge between Sonic and Knuckles as he continues his plan to take over Sonic's World, Robotnik really just kills the tribe because it was fun to him.

Edited by Mario1995 on Feb 21st 2020 at 11:21:01 AM

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#1447: Feb 21st 2020 at 8:41:12 AM

[up] You really want the sequel to go Darker and Edgier, don't you?

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#1448: Feb 21st 2020 at 9:06:55 AM

About Detective Pikachu not explaining Pokemon, literally everything else explains what they are.

It's been 3000 years…
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#1449: Feb 21st 2020 at 9:08:50 AM

Some idiots can't imagine a world different to their own.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#1450: Feb 21st 2020 at 9:13:07 AM

Now now,just because they want a grim dork sonic movie doesn't make them an idiot

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