Sonic the Hedgehog movie

Not really. Major Benninngton's hat lacks the insignia.

The background actors, despite carrying guns (badly I might add), almost none of them were wearing helmets or other protective gear. If not that, at least a beret because they should most likely be security forces.

And despite being an Army unit, it looks like they're wearing Air Force AB Us.

Edited by NoName999 on Apr 30th 2019 at 4:10:06 AM

No, it's there. Right in the center.

Huh? They looked okay to me. Proper trigger discipline and whatnot. What was wrong?

Maybe, but a quick search gave me a number of pictures of soldiers on security detail wearing patrol caps. I looked closer, and Bennington's shoulder patch says he's part of a mountain unit. Maybe they were just the closest, and not specifically security forces.

They're not. Bennington, at least, has on the OCP, which is appropriate.

Edited by caivu on Apr 30th 2019 at 7:42:50 AM

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I found this analysis interesting. For those who don't want to watch it, it essentially explains the obvious about why Sonic looks creepy: he's a motion capture character but they kept in too many human characteristics without thinking about how being a hedgehog would change his biology.

Now that I look at Sonic some more, I'm confused on why his muzzle is peach instead of white like his stomach and paws.

I was referring to Alvin and the Chipmunks more in the sense of how it feels more like a mundane sitcom, rather than any perception to it's quality. Carrey's mannerisms as Robotnik feel more like an improv bit compared to a carefully crafted villain character.

Given how Sonic's hands are fur I think they could've kept the peach arms.

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I've never been fond of Sonic having peach arms, especially furless ones. I know it's how hedgehogs are but I'm so used to furry animals who are fully-furred, plus Shadow and Silver have fully furred arms.

I don't mind Sonic's arms here. It's his stomach and paws that are weird. They're a striking white colour. Sonic has never had a white stomach, like a cat. He has a peach stomach (and it's presumably his skin).

I wonder why they didn't give Sonic gloves. There's nothing weird about gloves Funny Animals. Everyone has gloves—Mickey, Bugs, Oswald, Woody, Felix. It's one of the most iconic design tropes out there.

Edit:

Apparently Felix doesn't wear gloves. I could have sworn he did. I probably got him mixed up with Oswald.

Edited by Pichu-kun on May 1st 2019 at 6:07:22 AM

This CBR article also shows issues with Sonic's design, including the head-to-torso ratio, the muscles, and, uh, the butt.

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My first thought was Sonic Booms Eggman when I saw Jims portrayal. And that got pretty weird in the mundane shit he got involved in some episodes.

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Saw the trailer twice, and here's what happened.

My first reaction was at 1:06, and my second reaction at 1:53.

Looking around, it seems most people have the exact same reaction to this new trailer:

Oh man I hope the movie gets a videogame tie in that uses that particular sonic model.... It'd make a nice new addition to the Terrible Sonic Games Collection.

Actually, most incarnations of Felix the Cat don't wear gloves (not even his own live-action counterpart), which naturally includes his early appearances.

In Sonic's case, I don't mind the designers ditching the gloves, but I kind of wished something white remained around his hands. Maybe white fur...or sports tape?

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As for the trailer itself, while mildly amusing in some aspects, seems to be another "average kids movie". Regarding Sonic's final design, I'll hop on with @Pichu-kun's point on how the design, in a way, still manages to be expressive and lively considering the realistic constraints attached it. That being said, Sonic's rendering looks unfinished in some scenes (namely anything involving the cop and trying to composite the two together).

Carrey's Robotnik is honestly nicely typecasted. I'm liking the implications of him gradually becoming more recognizable the further he becomes invested in pursuing Sonic.

As a side note, I'm normally not a fan of (arrogant-laced) reactionary redesigns of (technically) unreleased content, but I did like the tweaks AimeeUeda made to Sonic's face from this shot◊. It's closer to the design philosophy of what the movie's going for, rather than just wholesaling the video game design with more fur-shadowing.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Apr 30th 2019 at 12:59:30 PM

Idk. I've seen a concerning number of reactions of "Guys, stop complaining about what clearly is meant to be a family/kids movie".

It's something I've never understood. Parents want the best of everything for their kids; health care, food, books, education, etc. But when it comes to TV and Movies, "Who cares? It's a stupid kids cartoon. Shut up".

I don't even like Sonic nor have I ever played a game and... oh boy...

Also, one of my favorite twitter hot takes: "Wow. Even the furries won't want him now". I fucking died.

Bwahaha that trailer is number 1 trending on You Tube right now with over 140K likes & over 200K dislikes.

THIS IS FUCKING HIALRIOUS!

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 30th 2019 at 10:08:15 AM

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I admit I...don't hate it? Though it doesn't enthrall me the way the first Detective Pikachus trailer did.

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x3: Personally, any possible anger for this movie from me has been drained from the outrage cycle already. All I can really muster is some things that legitimately found "alright" and some tamed complaints. "Average" and "tamed" seems to fit what the film's shaping up to be so far, so I don't mind calling it that.

x2: I was honestly expecting a more one-sided race, but we'll see.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Apr 30th 2019 at 1:28:43 PM

Also, what is it with poor James Marsden getting roped into either Romantic False Leads or Bad Kids CGI Movies?

Man with all the hate this movie has been getting, and I do mean all the hate my entire twitter feed is basically just people yelling at it, I expected it to be worse.

I mean it doesn't look good but it doesn't look that bad either.

Also lol at a tranquilizer gun taking down what what looks like a couple billion dollars in robotics couldn't.

But yeah seeing Jim Carrey... Carrey makes me unreasonably happy. Very nostalgic for his slapstick.

This movie looks worse because now we have Detective Pikachu to compare it to, which makes this look even more tired and uninspired.

And this hightlights just why Sonic's design im this film is so bad. It's not cartoony enough to escape the Uncanny Valley.

Edited by Nightwire on May 1st 2019 at 12:35:06 PM

I don't know. This is... pretty bad. In a 'I-don't-really-want-to-conceive-of-worse' way. Sure, yes, something from the early 00s would be worse graphically. But I mean purely from a design perspective, I don't know what could look worse.

This feels like the place holder design that will be iterated better over development... and then they didn't have time to redo it so they finished the model anyway. It's so... underdeveloped. The proportions, the eyes, the weirdly muscular but undefined body...

I'd argue we've got a case of overdevelopment on the model rather than underdevelopment. They did not keep it simple, stupid.

I thought the gigantic uncanny valley anime eyes on Alita would make the Battle Angel movie unwatchable but it ended up being pretty decent.

It's not like this film can dive to depths as deep and wretched as Sonic 2006.

Sonic 2006 was awful for a lot of reasons, but Sonic's actual character design in that game wasn't one of them.

Disgusted, but not surprised

Looks more like a Sanic movie. 🤣

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Once again, I can't help but feel that, like with every other recent Sonic-related piece of media, a huge problem is that Sega or whoever simply refuses to spend all that much money and talent on the series, despite it being one of the most recognized and beloved video game franchises out there.

I mean, compare this film to Detective Pikachu. That film got several well known writers, including Nicole Perlman, to come us with the story, and even had the script revised by the director (Rob Letterman, who has a solid track record) and the award winning Thomas Mc Carthy. Not to mention the hiring of well-known and acclaimed stars like Ryan Reynolds, Ken Watanabe, and Bill Nighy, in addition to several up and coming young actors like Justice Smith and Kathryn Newton. Heck, they even got the VFX team that did the award-winning visuals for the live-action Jungle Book movie to do the effects for the film.

Now what exactly does this Sonic movie have? A no-name director (this is his first major directing role), B-list actors (except for Jim Carrey), writers who have only done poorly received and barely known low-budget comedies (with Oren Uziel being the exception, and his work, aside from 22 Jump Street, also hasn't been well received), and effects that clearly have been phoned in. It all just feels so generic and cheap compared to the much more lavish and passion-driven Detective Pikachu film.

Seriously, I really wonder where exactly the heart and passion that Sega once had for Sonic has gone. Because they really don't seem to give a rip anymore, if their unwillingness to place actual money and talent on the series is any indication.

I dunno, back when the first DP trailer came out I saw a lot of complaints that the writing, designs, etc. didn't feel like Pokemon. I guess the second trailer won 'em over?

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