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Deadlock Clock: Feb 19th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
I.O.M. Since: Jan, 2014
#1: Jan 11th 2014 at 7:03:18 PM

I think this trope is being misused in the following ways:

The definition seems uncertain regarding whether two bodies are actually being swapped (i.e. exchanged) bilaterally or unilaterally. Following this most of the examples are simply someone hijacking the body of another. Other examples seem to be one character simply impersonating another (although I may not know the story behind the examples well enough)

I think Grand Theft Me should simply be when one person with a body hijacks another. And a possible subtrope if this which is bilateral, or use the Freaky Friday trope, which seems define a body swap well enough.

This is my first post so sorry for any sloppiness.

edited 11th Jan '14 7:04:17 PM by I.O.M.

theAdeptrogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
iRidescence
#2: Jan 12th 2014 at 6:46:18 AM

Fixed the tag. You should write the title in CamelCase form.

That being said, I wholly agree with the problems you mention. Whenever I come across a wick example of this trope, it's almost always simply about "a character possessing/taking control of another character's body", rather than actual body swapping, and that's what I get across from the page image. The description and laconic is not really clear on this either. The "second type" of the description, especially, seem to talk more about Identity Theft rather than Body Snatching or swapping. In fact, this line saying "This version does not necessarily require swapping bodies" does nothing but confuse the definition of the trope.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3: Jan 12th 2014 at 6:51:31 AM

I've always seen this used to mean "taking over someone else's body", which is a subitem of Body Snatcher. The definition "forcibly swapping bodies with one another" is a subitem of "Freaky Friday" Flip, which isn't necessarily forcible.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#4: Jan 13th 2014 at 7:44:17 PM

Originally created in YKTTW 1.0. The name definitely sounds like one-way hijacking, but I'm not sure how different the two-way variant actually is; from the villain's perspective, it's really just a side effect of the one-way approach.

Leaper Since: May, 2009
#5: Jan 13th 2014 at 8:34:42 PM

Yeah, it's the name. When you perform Grand Theft Auto, you aren't giving the other guy the car you were driving before.

theAdeptrogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#6: Jan 13th 2014 at 8:54:28 PM

If this is a one-way sort of thing, where did the "swapping" come from? Swapping implies that you take the other person's body at the expense of your own.

Not to mention, by letting the examples remain as a pseudo-form of someone stealing someone else's body/identity, how is this any more distinct or specific to Body Snatcher?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Jan 13th 2014 at 11:58:42 PM

I am just guessing that Body Snatcher doesn't require the snatcher to have a body itself. I don't know how many examples of this lack a body, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#8: Jan 14th 2014 at 1:15:50 AM

[up][up]Judging from the original YKTTW, this was originally intended to include the "swapping" part before the name was suggested, but it doesn't seem to have been all that stressed.

theAdeptrogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#9: Jan 14th 2014 at 2:13:42 AM

[up][up]Doesn't Demonic Possession already cover entities with no bodies of their own?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Jan 14th 2014 at 2:36:35 AM

I question how much "possession" equals "taking over someone's body". Often, there is some mental conditioning involved.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#12: Feb 16th 2014 at 10:12:02 PM

Is there already a trope for the misuse? If not, is there any reason why there can't just be an expansion?

Leaper Since: May, 2009
#13: Mar 15th 2014 at 3:13:31 PM

I still say that I can't see a reason why this can't just be expanded to fit the misuse.

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#14: Apr 15th 2014 at 4:10:39 AM

This one doesn't seem to have gone anywhere; locking up.

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