She has been callous before anyway. People gave Pinkie the stink eye for months after the deal with Cranky.

All of the ponies have shown less than stellar moments before and after this episode.

I sometimes feel like there are degrees of this as well. Like, I just rewatched The Maud Couple actually, and that's another episode that people don't like Pinkie in.

I think people should watch it again. Pinkie isn't that bad at all. She actually realizes that she's doing something wrong for one. She tries several times to be accomodating of Mud (like throwing away her piniatas as soon as she realizes that Mud doesn't like them), and tries to walk back her mistakes. She realizes with little prompting that she's doing SOMETHING wrong. She just can't get onto Mud's wavelength at all, and his every reaction rubs her completely the wrong way. And she winds herself up over it until she has an outburst. Even when she runs back home, she does so because she wants her sisters to tell her what she's doing wrong. She wants to love Mud as much as Maud does, but she can't see a way to do so.

Edited by GNinja on Jan 24th 2019 at 6:02:27 PM

I agree that all of them have been inconsistent at one point or another, but I think Pinkie takes the crown on that front, closely followed by Twilight.

I believe Twilight might suffer setbacks more often of the two, by virtue of being the protagonist more often and having conflicts revolve around her flaws and virtues.

But yeah, I think both probably suffer the inconsistencies more often.

Not that there's a single character that hasn't taken hold of whatever ball whenever it fancies the writer of the day.

Its not even that the writers are unaware, they just don't mind the way some fans do.

Erm, I can't really elaborate now but while Pinkamena was far too persistent and couldn't take "no" for an answer, she wasn't callous in that one, as in, she didn't care about what she was doing.

Yes, that one had problems but Pinkamena's main problem was not being able to see that not everybody wants to be companions with everybody else. She tried so hard to be Cranky's companion and have him smile because, as the musical before Cranky came clarified, she lived to make everybody around her happy.

Before she got Cranky and Matilda together, the most progress she made with Cranky was when she actually took what he wanted into her mind such as the toupee. Even getting Cranky and Matilda with one another was part of that. (Yes, I have my own problems with that but it's not apropos).

She still cared in that one. Her problem was that her way of caring was too exuberant and not actually tied to the sort of person Cranky was.

"Filli Vanilli" Pinkamena did not care in the slightest and that is the problem.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 24th 2019 at 11:14:40 AM

I also think Pinkie was too aggressive to the point of being outright mean in "Filli Vanilli", but I do really like the imagery of Pinkie spider-crawling up a wall to get to Fluttershy. That was f*cking hilarious.

Also, Twilight telekinetically catching Pinkie mid-bounce at the end and pulling her back to the group to avoid another Fluttershy freakout is a nice understated Team Mom moment.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 24th 2019 at 12:13:31 PM

Pinkie often doesn't think about what others want in non-party related circumstances. Go back to the Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000 when she blabbed to the entire town about cider season, got like twelve cups when everypony else was satisfied with one cup a piece, then after the Apples ran out actually ran up to Rainbow Dash and essentially mocked her to her face that the cider was amazing and that it was a real shame that Rainbow didn't get any.

She's such a Pollyanna that she doesn't understand how others think when she's the one that's happy or excited about something.

Yes, Pinkamena's behavior was not her best in that one (especially her line about how the cider was so good, erm, perhaps before Film and Flam came) but she was ill at the time, suffering from "being written by Larson".

It's not a knock to Larson as a writer but Larson does tend to have Pinkamena be oddly antagonistic and rude. "Luna Eclipsed", where Pinkamena has the same vein of antagonistic behavior, was also by Larson. Even "Swarm of the Century" was by Larson.

"Twilight Time" has been seen!

I'd classify it as a "shrug" under subsection "the ending felt a bit...forced, a bit conforming to a typical story" and subsection "did these brats not know that Sparkles still lived here? She hasn't gone anywhere since she became a Princess".

Also, what do these lines sound to you, everyone?

"Wow, this is nice, but there's no one else here. Why is this party cooler, exactly?"

"Because of all the ponies we're keeping out."

Because it sounded to me, when I listened to it at the moment, I thought that she was actually being sadistic, saying that it's better because they can see the filthy plebeians congregating at her abode with envy in their eyes and seeing that makes it that much better. However, it's probable that she meant it's better because there's no worthless scum to ruin it.

Also also, starting from now, I'm seeing two stories a day, one in the morning and night because I have the feeling that I'm going to have to put the pedal to the metal to get to up to everybody else quickly.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 25th 2019 at 8:26:47 AM

I think you are making a bit too much of mean fillies being mean. It's not nice to hold an exclusive party for the sole purpose of excluding people from it, but it's hardly sadistic.

Huh. KP did a review of "Sounds of silence":

And noticed something interesting: the leader Kirin has the exact same body model as Celestia. She even has an overlay shot that shows that the base model is identical.

One other thing to note is that Twilight Time demonstrates DT's talent for manipulation, also seen in Flight to the Finish. I feel like in their rush to hate on DT, fans just stereotype her as a dumb bully and miss little things like that.

Yeah, there were many bad qualities in DT but she always had a knack for leadership as seen in ponyville confidential, and she loved her father even when she was a jerk to everyone else.

I know that I'm probably overreacting but it did seem as though she was saying that it was better because there were plebeians loitering at the gates, wanting to come in but unable to do so, gazing upon them at the pool with envy.

"It's just not fun if peasants aren't watching you and wanting to be with you every moment they look." It seemed to be in that spirit at the moment.

My mind overemphasized her line and how it was said with her action of pointing to the ponies at the gate. It's also not helped that the Cutie Mark Crusaders immediately got nervous expressions at that line and tried to leave swiftly.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 24th 2019 at 6:53:09 AM

So, for today, it's "It Ain't Easy Being Breezies" and "Somepony to Watch Over Me"!

Post of the Day #2406

Posted by kegisak on Mon, 9th May '11 10:57:29 PM - Post #4321 in the old thread

I'm pretty sure it's a minority opinion but I actually liked "Somepony to Watch Over Me".

AJ gets a lot of flack for being boring and perfect and having no character flaws whatsoever and never having to learn any lessons because she's just so stable. Which is a bum rap given how many episodes have centered around her that weren't "The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000", but I digress.

AJ being a smothering surrogate-mom to her kid sister is a flaw I can get behind. It makes sense for her character.

What's that? Horses can only attack by bucking?

You go and provoke a real horse, and see how "impossible" it's attacks are.

Edited by Redmess on Jan 25th 2019 at 4:13:54 PM

I wouldn't mind the flaw so much if it didn't come completely out of left field and wasn't play to such an absurd degree.

There's no shortage of Youtube videos that show horses attacking by biting, ramming, and so on.

And for stallions, they rear up and use their front hooves to punch each other.

and BITE,seriously look a horse skull some time

"It Ain't Easy Being Breezies" has been seen!

It's a "eh". It doesn't have enough for me to recommend it and not enough to denigrate it. It happened.

So, what is the accent the Breezies have? It sounds to me as though it's a combination of "Swedish Chef" and "sterotypical Scottish".

Also, are we sure there were no toys of the Breezies or the pony-breezies? I saw that there were toys of the superheros in "Power Ponies".

The episode certainly feels like it was intended to sell toys (especially the bit at the end), but I'm not sure if they actually did. I didn't hear much about the breezies anyway.

Edited by storyyeller on Jan 25th 2019 at 10:51:07 AM

Yes, there were toys of the Breezies, but not the Breezie versions of the Mane 6.