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Prematurely launched pages, pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through YKTTW for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, no crosswicking etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

edited 8th Aug '17 10:10:12 AM by SeptimusHeap

Berrenta Heating things up from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Heating things up
Oct 9th 2019 at 7:32:12 AM

Unlaunching Big Screen and giving the OP a warning PM.

WarJay77 Simba is tired from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Simba is tired
Oct 9th 2019 at 12:49:16 PM

What about Plastic Bitch?

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
WarJay77 Simba is tired from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Simba is tired
Oct 9th 2019 at 2:22:55 PM

Drakos 25 launched "Cat Hairballs Ren And Stimpy", an attempted work page, as a trope. Apparently they didn't know this wasn't how TLP-work-pages work.

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
XFllo Witch from Where foxes bid people good night... Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Witch
Oct 9th 2019 at 2:29:58 PM

[up] I came here to report that as well.


I support sending Plastic Bitch back to TLP. It's a solid idea, but the discussion was very much in progress.

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Berrenta Heating things up from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Heating things up
Oct 9th 2019 at 10:03:03 PM

Hooked the crowner.

WarJay77 Simba is tired from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Simba is tired
Oct 10th 2019 at 9:57:21 AM

Intelligence Indicators Index was rogue launched by someone who apparently edited the draft once, but never participated in the discussion.

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Oct 10th 2019 at 2:33:37 PM

Armor Meter/Points should not be split. When the concept can cover 1) the two appearing together and 2) examples that are neither points nor meter, we'll need the page as it is.

In fact, I'd propose for Life Meter and Hit Points to be merged.

Edited by 4tell0life4 on Oct 10th 2019 at 2:34:26 AM

To the intellectuals, ignorants are slaves.
Oct 10th 2019 at 3:11:59 PM

[up] - The only Other example is Spyro's and it's a Point system where the numbers are abstracted into colors.

And it explains its Meter well enough that I'd allow it on Armor Meter, after some hesitation.

As it says:

The "meter" here is more subtle, taking form of Sparx's coloring: he's normally yellow, but by taking damage he'll turn blue, then green, before disappearing after one more hit.


All computer-based uses of armor in this fashion must use some Armor Points under the hood, even if the numbers are abstracted away to the user.

The only relevant thing I would say wouldn't fit, is if you randomized the outcome on each hit, like:

  • There's a scale going from "Undamaged" to "Slightly Damaged" to "partially damaged" to "really damaged" to "scraps" to "no armor"... And an attack can take you from Undamaged to any other point on that scale...

In which case I'd say "Armor Points, but very Randomized Damage".

Edited by Malady on Oct 10th 2019 at 3:18:11 AM

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nombretomado the formatting mod from just kind of around Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
the formatting mod
Oct 10th 2019 at 5:10:57 PM

Unlaunched Intelligence Indicators Index and PM'ed the troper in question.

WarJay77 Simba is tired from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Simba is tired
Oct 10th 2019 at 6:20:39 PM

...And Plastic Bitch?

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Oct 10th 2019 at 7:30:25 PM

[up][up][up] Life Meter and Hit Points being separate is wrong already. Please don't repeat it.

To the intellectuals, ignorants are slaves.
Oct 10th 2019 at 7:50:00 PM

[up] - If you want to necro my Is LifeMeter a subtrope of HitPoints thread you can...

But be wary of Necro rules.

Edited by Malady on Oct 10th 2019 at 7:50:42 AM

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hanwen1234 Tsundere Not-Girlfriend.
Tsundere Not-Girlfriend.
Oct 11th 2019 at 9:26:53 PM

So I've had a message stating something about my recent creation of the Video Game/Project Resistance page. I specifically mentioned that people could work on it as they saw fit, since I'm still a bit of a newbie when it comes to full-on pages. I just wanted to get it up and running somewhat.

Inadequately feeling childhood friend.
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Oct 12th 2019 at 5:48:12 AM

You have a good start, but as per How to Create a Works Page, we do ask for at least 3 tropes, cross-linked, and the page on at least one index. I advise looking at the other Resident Evil pages for tropes to crib.

Oct 12th 2019 at 5:50:40 AM

Should we call the crowner now, or try and advertise it to see if we get more votes?

Note for future, current ratings are: (yeas:6 nays:3): Split, (yeas:4 nays:3): Keep, (yeas:0 nays:4): Cut

Edited by Malady on Oct 12th 2019 at 7:12:25 AM

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WarJay77 Simba is tired from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Simba is tired
Oct 12th 2019 at 6:42:02 AM

Definitely wait. Nothing has consensus.

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
nombretomado the formatting mod from just kind of around Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
the formatting mod
Oct 12th 2019 at 1:16:01 PM

Unlaunched Plastic Bitch and pinging ~ShawnRi as the launcher.

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Oct 12th 2019 at 4:46:20 PM

What's the logic in splitting "armor meter" and "armor points" anyway? They both do the same thing.

To the intellectuals, ignorants are slaves.
Oct 12th 2019 at 5:45:11 PM

[up] - If you want to discuss this, can we please move to the other thread that I linked above, so we don't clutter this one?

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4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Oct 12th 2019 at 7:30:48 PM

[up] There's nothing to discuss about those two. 1) it's a very old thread, 2) I won't go so far as to actually suggest merging them. I'm only suggesting that we shouldn't repeat the mistake.

To the intellectuals, ignorants are slaves.
Oct 12th 2019 at 8:11:51 PM

[up] - Okay then.

I guess we have nothing more to say on the topic to each other? You know I'm for splitting Armor Meter/Points to match Life Meter and Hit Points.

While I see your position as wanting to keep them together because you don't see a difference between representing values using the precision of usually integer numbers and using an imprecise meter, which are usually un-gradated.

Edited by Malady on Oct 12th 2019 at 8:13:33 AM

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Oct 13th 2019 at 1:34:58 PM

In terms of how they work, Armor hit points and regular hit points work differently so I see the value of this trope.

alnair20aug93 The Taste of Inktober from Furrypines Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Taste of Inktober
Oct 14th 2019 at 6:52:25 AM

I say split to "Armor Meter" and "Armor Points"

Sorry to interrupt, but can Rock is Authentic, Pop is Shallow be checked? Seems the OP launched this in the middle of discussion. The comment section on the draft has spoken on broadening this with other music genres, and the OP had started a crowner for this, but there's no link given.

UPDATE: Here's the crowner.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Oct 15th 2019 at 3:39:55 AM

That's all there is. There isn't anymore. YOWZA!!!
XFllo Witch from Where foxes bid people good night... Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Witch
Oct 15th 2019 at 7:06:06 AM

Series.Little People Big World (a stub created 2 years ago, its creator is still editing and has been sent the PM).

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Page Action: Armor Meter Points
6th Oct '19 6:36:53 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
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Armor Meter Points doesn\'t match the other Meter and Points tropes like Life Meter and Hit Points.

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