TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

Andy Weir and Askiisoft: recent Creator stubs.

I've messaged the creators about it (and indexing too).

edited 19th Jan '18 5:33:25 AM by StFan

Creator pages don't actually need tropes. Ideally, all the tropes should be on work pages, and the creator pages merely lists of works. I did some cleanup on Andy Weir.

(I'd say that creator pages should have three tropes or three works, but that runs into the danger of the pages suddenly becoming stubs-to-be-cut when someone moves tropes to a newly created work page.)

edited 19th Jan '18 11:02:19 AM by Xtifr

Creator articles may have Trivia examples about that creator, but it's not required. What is necessary is that there be at least one work article relevant to that creator on the wiki.

It seems a bit redundant to have a creator page for someone who only has one work. I mean, I suppose it should be allowed, but it just seems pointless.

But I don't think they need any work pages, as long as there are sufficient tropes. If that's not the case, there are a number of short-story writers whose pages will need to be cut, despite having dozens of listed tropes—but often only one or two per work.

In any case, Weir has four work pages, and the other one seems to have two, so it's not an issue either way, this time.

edited 19th Jan '18 11:55:26 AM by Xtifr

So I was looking through the wiki tools and found Quotes.Dunn-ions, which is a page for someone who apparently was (still is?) a moderator. I'm guessing this person works more on the back-end than in the forums or on the wiki. Their history supports this at least. They had created other subpages, but those have all been cut.

Should this page also be cut or is it fine?

For the record, I found it because it's typed as usefulnotes and in the Quotes/ namespace.

edited 19th Jan '18 1:56:10 PM by WaterBlap

I'd imagine that he put it there himself. It's technically against the rules but I'm not sure that anyone wants to call him out on it. And he's one of the site owners/admins.

Well, I don't imagine it'd hurt his feelings either.

edited 19th Jan '18 2:15:12 PM by Fighteer

Oh, that's fun. ... I guess it could be typed as fun and be let be? Not exactly worth trouble.

Healing Factor Burnout was apparently launched yesterday, yet the article itself is empty... and the Wiki Word is a redlink.

Link to the draft.

edited 19th Jan '18 3:10:51 PM by MarqFJA

Sounds like something went screwy with the launch. I think the normal fix is for a mod to unlaunch it.

Concept Of Islam -the book's listed on Amazon, so it's publicly available.

I would guess it would be tropeable the same way a book about the Bible, its history, and its ideology would be tropeable -sort of like a documentary or biography, or Isaac Asimov's book analyzing the book of Ruth.

But it does need tropes, the description's second and third paragraphs feel trunacated and rushed, and there's an apostrophe missing in "Muslims" in the last paragraph.

Took care of the botched launch.

Going back to the topic of Dunn-ions' quote page... sure, we can keep it as fun... but I think we should at least move it to Quotes.Dunn Ions since the page title has a hyphen. Does anyone else agree?

It probably should, seeing as their troper name has no hyphen. And for the sake of strict accuracy, there is no rule against quote pages for tropers.

I edited the Concept Of Islam. Not sure what tropes to apply to it just yet...

Do creator pages with just a short summary and a picture (like Beth Behrs) count as stubs?

Mac Demarco is a line asking for others to make a page

Soda Drinker Pro has two tropes, one a ZCE, sent stub notifier

Done cutlisting All Canadian Cops Are Mounties. (draft)

Next up: What are we gonna do with Disgruntled Chef?

I’ve unlaunched the Disgruntled Chef draft so you can cut list the page

@St Fan: Yes, Creator pages need to have either tropes or links to work pages or both. That page doesn't have either one, so it's a stub.

I think one way to look at it would be that you need at least three tropes, just like regular work pages, but tropes on linked work pages count.

Transhumans in Space looks a lot like The Same, but More Specific of Transhuman

Lawful Pushover was launched by someone who hadn't been participating in the discussion. It has 5 hats, but still needed a fair bit of work. Can it be unlaunched?

Draft is here and it had 2 bombs, to make a net 3 hats. The name needs work, since it sounds like a Character Alignment (or like Lawful Stupid).

^ Also, the page image was deemed bad, but it's still there.

The I Funny and its YMMV page that someone mentioned a few pages ago should also be cut.

Agreed about I Funny. It was abandoned and the person who made it may have just been trying to upload an image rather than make the actual page for it... or something.

bitemytail reported the premature launch of Lawful Pushover in Ask The Tropers as well. He actually reported the wrong user for that launch, but the user he reported DID launch Transhumans in Space, which has 4 bombs and 5 hats. Troper who launched Lawful Pushover was Blue Caper.

Now, the user who launched Transhumans In Space, zaupaulus, DID participate in the discussion for Transhumans In Space, but his last comment was just asking about why the bombs were there.

edited 22nd Jan '18 5:31:02 PM by jameygamer

Character Action Title was recently launched. My concern is the fact that it includes tropes with this naming convention though it would probably be better to have those in a separate index page. I mentioned this in the TLP draft but there wasn't a response to that particular concern. None of the other title tropes do this, afaik.

I also mentioned context for certain examples, like if they use an idiom or if there's a consistent pattern a la Idiosyncratic Episode Naming, but the work was only half done before it was launched.

I think the trope is fine to keep, but it needs some more work (or rather needed it before launch).