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#2326: May 9th 2012 at 9:41:23 AM

It's easily googleable, but here's a direct download link.

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#2327: May 9th 2012 at 9:41:59 AM

[up]That's the original H version. Though, you could check that out as well if you want, since it's not that bad.

edited 9th May '12 9:58:52 AM by KuroBaraHime

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#2328: May 9th 2012 at 9:45:21 AM

Thanks Kuro, I'll be taking a look at that later this evening. (I must have missed your previous post on it, sorry.)

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#2329: May 9th 2012 at 9:55:32 AM

Also, Bakemonogatari and Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai are apparently up for review. I'm not really sure why. The former is simply a bizarre show, not porn, though the second season was, well, unique in it's approach to fanservice. No pedo pandering worth noting, though there's a girl that looks about eleven that has occasional sexual humor gags. The latter show is pretty fanservicey, but I wouldn't call it an excuse plot or anything like that. There are two little girls, but they're basically there to be cute, not sexy. Seems like that to me, anyway. They're also not used romantically, though the show is playing with the Harem Genre.

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#2330: May 9th 2012 at 10:00:12 AM

I've got a question related to this clean-up - what is the official word of examples in works that have been definitively cut on trope pages? Do we remove all such examples? Do we remove examples if they relate to porn? Leave it alone?

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#2331: May 9th 2012 at 10:00:22 AM

[up][up]Having read the latter's manga, there is definitely nothing sexual about the two female children portrayed there.

Haven't seen the anime, though, so if it's worse then what I've read...

edited 9th May '12 10:02:43 AM by Raidouthe21st

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#2332: May 9th 2012 at 10:07:32 AM

[up][up][up]Bakemonogatari was probably flagged as pedo-pandering because of a couple of questionable scenes in the Nadeko Snake arc, as well as Koyomi's bad habit of harassing Hachikuji (which is lampshaded in the second season).

edited 9th May '12 10:10:52 AM by tdgoodrich1

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#2333: May 9th 2012 at 10:08:29 AM

Bakemonogatari is definitely a spiritual successor to Sayonara Zetsubou-Sensei, and, aside from the unrelenting cynicism of the latter, are pretty similar in tone and fanservice level. If that helps anyone. It's been a while since I watched Bakemonogatari, but I definitely don't remember it being something we'd want to purge.

EDIT: I'm referring to the anime here. I have no idea about the light novels.

edited 9th May '12 10:09:37 AM by LargoQuagmire

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#2334: May 9th 2012 at 10:10:13 AM

My bet is trolls or people flagging anything with fan-service.

edited 9th May '12 10:10:26 AM by Shadis

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#2335: May 9th 2012 at 10:12:08 AM

My first bet on why Bakemonogatari was flagged was trolls, but it was probably because of the Fanservice. Otherwise, I don't see why it would have been flagged.

edited 9th May '12 10:12:23 AM by AStrayBard

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#2336: May 9th 2012 at 10:14:31 AM

No, it's not that. They were flagged by somebody who went down the Pages Pending For Perusal By P 5 page and flagged anything that had been suggested there. Those recs were made before we set the ratings standard, and we still had plenty of strawmen. Those series should get a free pass.

edited 9th May '12 10:22:01 AM by lu127

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#2337: May 9th 2012 at 10:16:59 AM

Honestly what I find baffling was the flag for Kamisama Dolls. I don't recall anything as far as fanservice goes beyond Hibino's Gag Boobs.

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#2338: May 9th 2012 at 10:17:40 AM

[up][up] What are the ratings for those series? If they're part of the exemption and flagged without reasoning provided, I can zap them from the tool.

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#2339: May 9th 2012 at 10:19:58 AM

Bakemonogatari hasn't been given an English rating yet, because it has just recently been licensed for release by Aniplex. I'd say it'd get a 16+.

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#2340: May 9th 2012 at 10:21:50 AM

A short digression: I just realised that in my page 92 post I may have made it sound as though I'm actively trying to restore Lotte no Omocha!. *

This is not the case—I was merely reporting that I still have an unused vote. I also hinted that I don't really plan to use it by suggesting that the status quo will most likely stand.

I hope this didn't cause confusion.

All right. Please resume.


On another note, I noticed that many of these grey areas involve "sex comedies". To make sure I'm not out of touch with reality, how would you set the boundaries on sex comedies?

edited 9th May '12 10:22:23 AM by Catalogue

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#2341: May 9th 2012 at 10:23:18 AM

Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai was flagged as TV-MA by Funimation.

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#2342: May 9th 2012 at 10:24:56 AM

The Living With Monster Girl manga, which is actually titled "Everyday That There is Monster Girls" [sic] (Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou in Japanese), is also available on Manga Traders. I'd give the link, but I don't know if the "no links to scanlations" rule applies here as well...

[up][up] Well, I'd suppose that no explicit sex would be a given. Attempts by one party to have sex with another (whether they fail or implicitly succeed), however, seem to be more of a debatable issue.

edited 9th May '12 10:26:31 AM by MarqFJA

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#2343: May 9th 2012 at 10:25:18 AM

^^ Seriously? It's pretty tame. There's nothing there more objectionable than swimsuits being worn at the pool and short skirts.

edited 9th May '12 10:25:27 AM by Arha

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#2344: May 9th 2012 at 10:25:27 AM

@Catalogue

Is the sex for turning people on or is it there because its funny?

[down]Don't know my self, but that's what I would go by.

edited 9th May '12 10:30:19 AM by Shadis

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#2345: May 9th 2012 at 10:28:19 AM

So in a way, we still allow very adult-oriented content that's not bleached-underpantsable, but still not porn?

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#2346: May 9th 2012 at 10:29:38 AM

To make sure I'm not out of touch with reality, how would you set the boundaries on sex comedies?
The vote on Sexy Losers was to keep, which honestly surprised me since that's far more explicit than Menage A 3 and much more crude in its humor. I'd say if [X] is being called a "sex comedy" and isn't as raunchy as Sexy Losers, then it can probably be kept unless it clearly violates the "no kiddies" clause.

edited 9th May '12 10:32:22 AM by Willbyr

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#2347: May 9th 2012 at 10:30:14 AM

@Arha: That seems to be their SOP for what they deem fanservice-heavy shows. I seem to remember a lot of focus on Sena's chest, but it's nowhere near cut-worthy.

edited 9th May '12 10:32:04 AM by tdgoodrich1

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#2348: May 9th 2012 at 10:31:27 AM

People keep confusing me. Where's the master list of decisions, again?

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#2350: May 9th 2012 at 10:33:53 AM

Ninja'd. Voting tool is linked in the thread in case you want to watch progress on the decision-making process as well.

edited 9th May '12 10:34:56 AM by tdgoodrich1

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