The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Put in final vote to restore page.

I've filed the appropriate requests for these now-called items.

Now, the only thing to do are the following:

• Chintsubu and Hooker Verse need votes still.
• Maybe that's more appropriate for elsewhere, but I did propose Sandbox.Horny Devils 2 as a cleaned up, namespaced and alphabetized version of Horny Devils. I wanted to know if there are any links that should be taken out.
• There has also been a proposal to rewrite Lolicon; personally, if we are going to expand it to cover Shotacon as well I would suggest to a) move it to Lolicon and Shotacon and b) rewrite a bit so that it covers the various uses, although that may be more TRS job.

The page for Lolicon is actually defined as pedophilia Played for Laughs, which might be a valid trope, although it might not make it past Google.

No need to move pages unnecessarily. Replace current page with sandbox, redirect Shotacon to Lolicon, wipe hands on pants.

My minor issue is that the sandbox refers to only one usage. Plus, if you just redirect, people will complain about the page with one name being used for two terms.

Lolicon and Shotacon sounds awkward for something that refers to a person. Someone is a lolicon. They are probably not a Lolicon and Shotacon.

Just redirect Shotacon to Lolicon.

edited 21st Jul '14 4:08:38 PM by Arha

I gave the third angelhead to Chintsubu. It appears to just be a gag comedy like My Balls and Oglaf.

^^Methinks I'll do a sandbox on myself on the Lolicon text.

Nevermind, upon reconsideration that sandbox & redirect seem to be the best way to go. I rearranged Arha's sandbox a bit, hope the new version is OK. Apropos, can we shorten the Real Life paragraph a little? Most of that is extraneous to the trope and the page is No Real Life Examples Please.

edited 22nd Jul '14 2:21:53 AM by SeptimusHeap

The real life paragraph is basically only there because I had to include some 'Lolicon bad!' stuff thanks to the atmosphere on the forums at that time. If you don't think we need it, feel free to chop it out.

Pædo Hunt isn't really very closely related, though. That's about stirring up moral controversy and stuff.

edited 22nd Jul '14 10:48:42 AM by Arha

Pædo Hunt is the trope for a more generally villainous portrayal, so it was worth adding. Anyhow, I've trimmed that paragraph and reorganized the sandbox in a more structured form, with the "Otherstuff" at the bottom. Any disagreement at putting that under Lolicon and redirecting Shotacon to it?

Septimus, Arha: I've made a few adjustments to the Sandbox page (mainly tweaking the phrasing) - are there any further changes you'd like to propose?

(Also, do we really need a Quotes page?)

edited 23rd Jul '14 6:52:51 AM by Pyrite

I see Real Life entries there. Cut them.

As for the sandbox, the "related tropes" should stay together, not one paragraph and another mention in parentheses inside another paragraph. The rest is OK.

Done and done. Still don't think we need a Quotes page, TBH. Seems to have missed the lock the last time around.

edited 23rd Jul '14 7:06:53 AM by Pyrite

The new version is fine. I'll take another look at the quotes once I am back home.

Quotes.Lolicon seems to be mostly talking about paedophilia, period. That is not what the page is about, for starters, so yeah, cut that.

Cutlisted.

Alright, then, we're currently down to just the Hooker Verse on the Content Violations queue.

The sandbox is fine with me.

I've just flagged Bete Noire, which is described on its page as an "adult sex game." I forgot to put my handle in the report.

Well, even though you're not necessarily forced to do it, it appears that the general point of the roleplay is the sex stuff. So, eh, it gets a devilhead from me.

Also, I'm gonna give HookerVerse an angelhead. Other than a scant few R-rated stuff, it appears that a vast majority of the subworks are either PG or PG-13/15, so porn shouldn't be an issue. Also, the characters(?) are all adults, so no "pedopandering" is afoot, either.

Third angel for Hooker Verse, will request to have page moved to proper namespace.

Think it's OK to unlock?

edited 23rd Jul '14 7:32:47 PM by tdgoodrich1

I've moved the page. I would support an unlock btw, unless someone has issues with it.

Alright, guys, just a reminder: Bete Noire is currently at 1 devilhead.

A list of still-pending work:

1. The lolicon/shotacon rearrangement. It's got a few votes in support; one or two more and we can pull the trigger and declare the matter settled.
2. There is a request for comment on Horny Devils 2 pending, whether there are any works that ought not to have pages.
3. HookerVerse needs opinions on whether to unlock it (and then mark it as "done" in the CVR).
4. Bete Noire has 2 devilheads.
5. Chintsubu can be marked as "done" in the CVR.
6. I'll restore Hive Fled in Sandbox.Hive Fled to get it cleaned before restoration proper.
7. Child Bride and Fluffy Pony still need to be cleaned.

Are you still looking for a fifth member of P5? I volunteer to be considered.