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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Ramidel (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4751: Jun 7th 2012 at 9:05:51 PM

Alright. P5? I personally think we should unlock pages that were restored after rogue cuts.

edited 7th Jun '12 9:06:47 PM by Ramidel

I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#4752: Jun 7th 2012 at 9:07:39 PM

Per staff discussion, the decision on whether or not the restored pages should be kept locked is being tossed to the P5 to rule on.

Oh, goodie. Thank you! smile

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
#4753: Jun 7th 2012 at 9:08:15 PM

By the stopped clock principle, even a rogue cut by an outright troll will occasionally be right.

The child is father to the man —Oedipus
tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#4754: Jun 7th 2012 at 9:12:13 PM

Sigh. Back to work.

Re: Papa No Iukoto O Kikinasai: Sorairo No Hibiki

Looks like only 2 chapters are available. This one revolves more around Sora and the choir club, it seems.

Chapter 1: Clean apart from one page in which four members of the choir club (all middle school age, none of which include Sora) trip and...well, guess. Inclined to call that more comedic than fanservice, but still fanservice. Note that in this particular spinoff, Sora is explicitly 12.

Chapter 2: One token panty shot, otherwise clean

Pro:

  • Almost entirely clean, in fact the cleanest of the three manga so far
  • Shonen demographic, placing the fanservice close to age group of intended demographic

Con:

  • Key word there is almost: a token panty shot each chapter.

Yeah, nothing to worry about here, this one's on the same level as Dragon Crisis in terms of content.

edited 7th Jun '12 9:26:25 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
Ramidel (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4755: Jun 7th 2012 at 9:12:40 PM

@Hershele: Yeah, but that doesn't mean we should leave 'em locked by default unless a 5Per has a specific issue with any such page.

Otherwise, put them on the flagging tool.

I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Morganite Something strange... from Dynamis - Firefly Alley Since: May, 2012
Something strange...
#4756: Jun 7th 2012 at 9:33:45 PM

@Ramidel: Ah. Sorry, after reading some of the views people have of the series that seem to ignore most of what actually happens... it's kind of got me on edge.

edited 7th Jun '12 9:42:52 PM by Morganite

"So... the time has come for you to meet your demise..."
tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#4757: Jun 7th 2012 at 9:44:16 PM

Re: Papa No Iukoto O Kikinasai: Usagi no Mark

Only one chapter available.

In two words: Entirely clean.

Not surprising given this one's (a)shoujo and (b)about a 3 year old girl, her classmates, and her teacher. It's more "Awwww...look at the cute kids" than anything else.

Pro:

  • Clean
  • No fanservice
  • Uh... it's clean?

Con:

I need to watch some Black Lagoon or Hellsing or something to get that out of my system.

edited 7th Jun '12 9:47:25 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
Roraborialis Rorabrialis Since: Jul, 2011
Rorabrialis
#4758: Jun 7th 2012 at 9:51:12 PM

Should the blocked out pages still be appearing in the random list? Its rather frustrating to get the unwanted topic banner that often.

Happens to be known as Walrus Jones in other circles.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#4759: Jun 7th 2012 at 10:07:34 PM

Re: Restored pages. I think it's been long enough that we don't have to worry too much about trolls jumping on them. If we're wrong, we can always lock them again.

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#4760: Jun 7th 2012 at 10:19:16 PM

Well that was satisfying. I just watched every usage of the F-word in Black Lagoon. All 260 of them.

Back on subject though.

Re: Papa No Iukoto O Kikinasai: Miu-Sama Iu Toori

Only 3 chapters available.

The scanlation group helpfully included a breakdown of Papakiki and all of its spinoffs. While helpful, I can't link it here, regrettably. Gives the scanlation group's breakdown of the material, including content warnings.

As for the actual manga:

Chapter 1 and 2 look clean. About as objectionable as it gets is the playboy (not remotely seriously) flirting with Miu. Amusingly, a little ways in, Yuuta's sister gets all of them to cosplay. Nothing objectionable in 3, either.

In case you were curious about the cosplay

Pro:

  • Shoujo demographic
  • Clean with regards to fanservice
  • When in doubt, see above

Con:

  • Out of obligation to put something here: The art style is different from the other manga.

Think I will knock out the last spinoff tomorrow.

ATTN: @P5: PM me if you want that breakdown I mentioned.

edited 7th Jun '12 10:53:23 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#4761: Jun 8th 2012 at 5:34:34 AM

The picture in Clingy Jealous Girl it's from Izumo 2: Gakuen Kyousoukyoku (not sure if it's a visual novel or something else entirely), a work without an article. If anyone knows about it, is the work safe to pothole as a red link or it breaks the content rules?

PD: I do know we are not to cut pictures just for their source, I'm just wondering if the work should be potholed or be given a warning to not create an article for it.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#4762: Jun 8th 2012 at 5:35:55 AM

It has no article not because we cut it but because no one ever made one for it. So far as I know, anyway.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#4763: Jun 8th 2012 at 5:41:58 AM

I know, that's why I asked if it was safe to pothole and that way encourage someone to make an article for it.

edited 8th Jun '12 5:42:23 AM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#4764: Jun 8th 2012 at 5:56:10 AM

[up] It's fine to make the redlink; hopefully it will spur someone to make the page.

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#4765: Jun 8th 2012 at 6:02:49 AM
Thumped: This post has been thumped with the mod stick. This means knock it off.
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#4766: Jun 8th 2012 at 6:35:28 AM

This wiki is so amusing! [lol]

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#4767: Jun 8th 2012 at 8:28:09 AM

Re: Papa No Iukoto O Kikinasai: Takanashi no Hidamari

Chapter 1:

Revolves around the voice actress neighbor. Unlike the previous seinen spin-off, this one appears to shy away from full-on nippleage. It's also a bit tamer with regards to sheer amount of fanservice. No sexualization of the sisters is present.

Chapter 2:

Revolves around the landlady. Tamer than previous chapter, with only a couple of panels that focus on her chest. About as bad as it gets is an innocent bath scene in which the two older sisters get modesty towels and Hina gets covered in a mass of suds larger than she is. Still no sexualization of the sisters. Not a fan of the art direction in this chapter, not that that is relevant.

Chapter 3:

This one already looks more explicit one page in. The bottom panel has the sisters' undies knocked off their porch while drying. This one apparently revolves around one of the other neighbors not previously seen. She gets a straightforward shower scene, this time without Barbie Doll Anatomy.

Pro:

  • No fanservice of the sisters
  • At worst fanservicey

Con

  • Inconsistent levels of fanservice due to each chapter being done by different artists

Honestly, if these three chapters are indicative, the other seinen spinoff is considerably more explicit. Verdict to follow.


Re: Papakiki and all its spinoffs

Verdict: Keep, clean if necessary

Pro:

  • Never pornographic
  • Both shoujo spinoffs entirely clean, shonen spinoff mostly clean
  • Fanservice in seinen spinoffs is restricted to older characters
  • Fanservice in main (shonen) adaptation of LNs is of characters close in age to target demographic (or older)

Con:

  • Problematic material still present in both anime and main shonen manga

edited 8th Jun '12 8:48:40 AM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#4768: Jun 8th 2012 at 9:20:19 AM

Flagged Sex Ward. Somehow, it survived the initial purge, although it was on the Hentai index.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
TwoGunAngel The Demon Slayer Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
The Demon Slayer
#4769: Jun 8th 2012 at 9:42:08 AM

Sex Ward was already flagged, if I'm not mistaken, and it's on the list of resolved pages with three devilheads. Just waiting for the cut now.

edited 8th Jun '12 9:42:36 AM by TwoGunAngel

LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#4770: Jun 8th 2012 at 11:08:52 AM

[up] It was, and just needs a disposition.

EDIT: Just checked the queue, and it looks like someone trying to page-type The Last Of Us accidentally reported it for content violations. The page suggests a not-yet-released survival horror game, which is why I assume a mistake.

edited 8th Jun '12 11:10:35 AM by LargoQuagmire

HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
#4771: Jun 8th 2012 at 12:41:35 PM

Or a Nightmare Fetishist to whom that sort of thing is porn

The child is father to the man —Oedipus
animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#4772: Jun 8th 2012 at 3:32:52 PM

Some folks on special efforts are concerned about Anita Blake - there might be a shotacon scene in it and of course, there's the magic vagina. Anyone who loves this series have any ideas?

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#4773: Jun 8th 2012 at 4:30:29 PM

I believe Shima has already called that one as being exempt from cutting. It's a mainstream novel series that didn't start out porn-y, became porn-y, and has been moving away from its porniness. It can probably be cleaned, but things like that should be being cleaned anyway.

Roraborialis Rorabrialis Since: Jul, 2011
Rorabrialis
#4774: Jun 8th 2012 at 4:31:58 PM

[up][up][up][up] I think the person who flagged The Last of Us assumed it was pedophilic because the main Girl is much younger then the main character. Naturally, I seriously doubt that it will be due to it being on a console, and what is likely totally lack of sexual/adult content because of it.

edited 8th Jun '12 4:32:33 PM by Roraborialis

Happens to be known as Walrus Jones in other circles.
Roraborialis Rorabrialis Since: Jul, 2011
Rorabrialis
#4775: Jun 8th 2012 at 7:58:46 PM

Hey, should we separate this thread into to parts: A *New* About Content Violations (about the actual content violations,) and a General Flagged Works thread (For discussing and reviewing flagged works?) Currently we have people discussing both here, and having both in the same thread clutters it up slightly, causing minor confusion.

People discussing the actual policies are causing problems for people who want to review works that have been flagged, people who are reviewing works that have been flagged are cluttering out people trying to have discussions. Both groups belong here, and both groups serve a purpose, but I can imagine that I am not the only person who is frustrated here when you come to this thread to talk about one thing, to find the people in the thread are currently in the mood for the other. If anything, the people linking important details will have an easier time this way.

Edit: Whoops, Umm, I saw the checkmark next to the subject and thought I hadn't posted last. Sorry for the double post.

edited 8th Jun '12 7:59:33 PM by Roraborialis

Happens to be known as Walrus Jones in other circles.

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