The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

If there's Bleached Underpants they say they can keep the work.

Some references to Kodomo no Jikan and Lotte no Omocha have been noted as being okay to keep, so you might not want to go chopping things too quickly.

Those are sfw page images I think.

edited 31st May '12 8:56:08 PM by Shadis

If anyone wants to check the edit history, I edited Audience-Alienating Premise to remove the Jikan and Lotte examples. They seemed maybe too gushing? As I said, I'm not really much of an editor, but I happened across them right as the question about examples came up. If they can be put back, that's cool I guess.

edited 31st May '12 9:06:55 PM by CorrTerek

I followed suit by taking out Enzai from the page, since that also got reviewed and cut.

Lotte no Omocha has already been removed and put back once...

There's a thread specifically for removing some references and leaving others, so maybe not stepping on each other's toes is a good idea? At least until there's an official decision on examples that contain no problematic content.

I also don't see where you're getting "gushing" out of that entry...

@Insanity Prelude: Right now, the removal of links to stuff like Kn J and Ln O has been put on hold until we have formal moderation team permission to do so. This is because there were some serious discussions of how far we could and should go, and at times, it seems like even the moderators themselves were in two minds about this.

We should completely obliterate every reference to them, as far as I'm concerned. Don't give anyone a chance to gush. Honestly, I'm sick of reading about them in these threads and would like the matter solved once and for all.

Alright, I'll take it to the Special Efforts thread.

@Ojamajo Lime Pie: While I also think that we should remove references to these works, I would rather have a definite policy statement about what references will stay and what references will be removed. If you want to discuss this, check this thread. Some references will stay by admin fiat, and there were some good points in that discussion that a blanket ban on references to these works may have unintended consequences - e.g., would this mean banning explanations for Bleached Underpants (say, Bleach Underpants: HarmlessSpinoff is a tamer version of PornographicPedopandering)?

edited 1st Jun '12 12:22:37 AM by jkbeta

@Morganite, well, there's the fact that the example plays up the supposed heartwarming aspects while downplaying the ten-year-old succubus. But, as I said, if I cut in error it should be easily fixed. I was Just Trying to Help.

That gives me a plot bunny about succubi emerging full grown from eggs.

I've been thinking about demonic reproductive practices myself (considering I'm writing about a Demon Slayer), but that's neither here nor there.

That said, we have two more flag-works to look at:

• DarthWiki.Digimon Full Force - I'm not getting any hits on Google that aren't other fanfic with the phrase "Digimon full force" in the text (usually during a fight scene) or links to this site, leading me to believe that this is an unpublished work.
• FanFic.Echoing Of The Fragile Wind Trilogy - This is a Naruto Yuri Genre fanfic series. Not sure who the primary couple is, and I'm not familiar with Naruto anyway, but apparently, someone flagged it because Lolicon was one of the tropes on the page. I'd have to know the ages of the characters involved to determine whether or not it's true, since it's mainly a Zero Context Example. The fics are linked to on the page, so if someone wants to read through them and check for lemon content and other stuff, I ain't gonna stop you.

edited 1st Jun '12 9:14:50 AM by TwoGunAngel

Glancing at the summaries (the third fic has a handy short summary of all of the events in each fic), the primary pairing is Ino x Temari, with a random OC appearing for one sex scene who is described as a "peculiar young girl". I'm not really willing to read the fic to judge if she's loli or not at this time though, given an exam later today.

The thing with Naruto is that there's a time skip so they could be 16.

I tried to figure out what was going on with the Naruto Lemon Fics last night, but the zero-context examples on our page pissed me off and I have a packed weekend besides. It shouldn't be too hard to read through them, though, once I have time.

edited 1st Jun '12 9:24:51 AM by LargoQuagmire

Actually I flagged that Naruto fic because of the lemon part, not the lolicon part. There's not enough description on the trope page to tell whether it's PWP or not though, so it could be erroneous.

Fair enough.

Has anyone read Shiniez? I tried, but I couldn't navigate the deviantart index. It's already got two angels, but I want to hear a little more before giving it the third.

What do you mean when you say you couldn't navigate the index? If it's a problem of finding the pages in question, the various pages of the comic were collected in the page that is linked to on the works page (which was necessary because up until recently, Shiniez posted the comic Out of Order). If it's a problem of actually accessing the pages in question, it's most likely because of the Mature Content filter that Shiniez puts on every page of his gallery, which you need to have a Deviantart account to be able to view.

edited 1st Jun '12 12:21:49 PM by TwoGunAngel

I have an Deviant Art account, and I have time now that my summer class is done, so I can take a look through it if you'd like, Discar.

@4283: I think you're borrowing trouble. I checked out some of the examples that jkbeta already cut, and I didn't find any thing I could recognize as gushing. Just straightforward descriptions of whatever it was, or in some cases revulsion. So if no one's been gushing before, why the worry about them gushing now? If someone posts a problematic example later, it can be cleaned up or removed just like any other badly done example.

In any case, mods are deciding policy, please wait warmly.

@4286: Huh, I interpreted it as playing up the ten-year-old succubus part and downplaying the heartwarming. The former even gets italics!

I'll wait for a mod/5P decision before cutting anything else. I did have a pretty different interpretation of it, but I'm not going to argue it since there's no official stance we should be taking anyway. I'll go back to lurking this thread on the off chance that I can help with something later.

@ Two Gun: My deviant art account isn't letting me view the comics in question. I'm assuming its part of the mature content filter, but I'm definitely of legal age...

Anyway, the point is I can't see them myself.

To view Deviant Art content under the Mature Content filter, make sure you are currently logged in, go to Settings, go to Browsing, and then check the box marked "Show Deviations With Mature Content."

Once that's done, just hit Save.

edited 1st Jun '12 3:09:58 PM by TwoGunAngel