Page Restoration Petitions

Well, it wasn't a snap verdict, so much as a snap reaction to how patently ridiculous that premise sounded. I mean, really, superpowers via panty flashing? That still sounds rather stupid to me!

However, if isn't pornography or pedophilia-pandering, then I guess it would be alright?

Wouldn't know, haven't watched it myself. I'm just clearing up its current status, nothing more.

Dumb question: I know All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles was restored, but why weren't it's subpages restored?

Not really certain about Headscratchers or Quotes (I could not find anything on the Wayback Machine about them), but the Laconic needs to be brought back. Heck, you could replace the Laconic with this:

"The idea or mentality that all anime is Hentai and/or Gorn."

edited 30th May '12 10:41:08 AM by TwoGunAngel

It was cut? A bad premise doesn't mean a bad show. It's more of a stupid show than a bad show, and has less panty flashing than the anime of Rosario To Vampire

I agree. Art styles tend to have a big influence on the perception of age regardless what the character ages actually are, and I would agree that the culling process had been affected negatively by misperceptions in that regard.

Actually, I was arguing something a little different: if the characters are postpubescent and are drawn fairly maturely, but the age is under 16, the series is probably not meant to appeal to pedophiles. The fact that the age is under 16 is an irrelevant detail if it doesn't affect the art style, character behavior, or anything else. Anime characters tend to be improbably young.

(And I've seen plenty of instances of people bringing up "they're under 16, but they have fanservice" for things that are not fanfics.)

If the characters are postpubescent but the art style makes the characters look young, that's the opposite. It seems to me that most of those aren't meant to appeal to pedophiles either.

(And characters under 13 aren't postpubescent, so this doesn't apply to them.)

I just checked, and we haven't voted on Arcade Gamer Fubuki. I didn't even remember the discussion about it until I clicked Pyrite's links and saw Komodin's hilarious Sonic face response. We can start a thread for it. I'll do that now.

EDIT: Here it is. I forgot to put "feedback wanted" in the thread title, but please do go in there and give feedback if you have any.

edited 30th May '12 11:47:04 AM by Martello

@aromdee - I'll agree with you on the first point, since that's the point I was making about Body Bags when it came up for review. The second one, I'm not so sure. Why design a character to look prepubescent if not only to pander to pedophiles? I really can't think of another reason. I'm not saying that every instance of a character like that will need to be cut, but it's certainly a red flag.

Martello: I believe he means things like Lucky Star which have a very rounded, immature looking style but aren't necessarily fanservice ridden. I know it's been done before, but the idea of sexualizing Lucky Star's art is confusing at best.

I could be wrong of course, but that's at least one example of an art style making characters look younger than they are without being pandering.

edited 30th May '12 11:56:17 AM by Arha

Huh...looked at Lucky Star images. Do people make it into porn?

Why am I asking that, of course they do!

But I see what you mean, Arha. It'd be like making porn out of Peanuts, which, again, I'm sure people do.

edited 30th May '12 11:59:01 AM by Martello

Well, they do say that there are no exceptions to Rule 34. I just hope that I don't have to read any more Sonic pornfics...

Rule 34. There is porn of it, no exception.

Rule 35. If no porn is found at the moment, it will be made.

This is why we don't cut things because of fan-works.

You're right, of course, and I would never suggest using fan-works as any kind of criteria. I was just in horrified wonderment over the concept of Lucky Star porn.

I don't believe there's much since most people aren't that insane, but yeah, there's some out there.

@Arha: I know. I've ran into some...

ANYWAY, anyone got any pages that they think should be restored?

Some? There shit-loads of Lucky Star porn!

But this is somewhat off-topic.

edited 30th May '12 12:23:00 PM by KuroBaraHime

Of the petitions I can see, it seems that Under Grand Hotel needs to be looked at for possible restoration (never read it myself).

If this is a settled issue and I should drop it, please tell me so and I won't bring it up again.

The Batman XXX page was cut as porn, but the page admitted a version of it exists without the porn, effectively admitting a Bleached Underpants version exists.

That said, since the general consensus seems to be Bleached Underpants = strong chance it will be kept, why was this cut anyway?

Note: I haven't actually seen it, but I did read the page and noticed that, so I was wondering what the deal was.

Again, tell me if it's a dead issue, and I'll drop the subject.

edited 30th May '12 12:29:09 PM by Rpgingmaster

Is that actually true though? I've never watched Batman XXX but I know for a fact it's just a Batman-themed porno. If anything the bleached version might be a fan-edit, and I don't think we need a page for that.

If you can find the non-porn version the 5p will in all likely hood take a look at it.

'Unlucky Busty Girl' this one is a trope with the given reason for cutting as "Doesn't seem like a trope, most of the examples consist of either subversions of Buxom Is Better or have nothing to do with the breast sizes of the love interests, merely being coincidences."

I don't know any thing abut it or its worthiness as a trope (the name sounds inane to me )but that reason for cutting dose not look like a content violation to me.

That one needed to go through TRS for a cut. I agree it needs restoration, if only for the fact that tropes like that need their TRS instead of abusing the cutlist.

Apparently, the DVD version allows the viewer to turn off the sex scenes, which apparently doesn't hurt the plot, such as it is.

According to the page that was hosed, the non porn version just resembles a hilarious parody of the already campy 1960's Batman.

edited 30th May '12 12:49:33 PM by Rpgingmaster

Hey, did Unlucky Busty Girl have any overly prurient examples?

edited 30th May '12 12:50:31 PM by Komodin

The original launched form is here

Besides, if the 5P give clearance for things like Naughty Tentacles, Mother Daughter Threesome or Unlucky Busty Girl, do we put them through TRS for further restoration (and rename)?

Frankly, upon examining the evidence, the core of the trope seems reasonable:

A girl (almost always portrayed as being a Love Interest in a work) who is gifted in the bust department who is considered to have poor luck regardless of that fact because she is passed over for someone not as gifted in chest size, meaning she ends the work passed over as a romance option.

However, I was only able to figure that out after a little examination, so It should probably go back up as a trope, just with very explicit definition.

Note: This is fairly common situation in romance centric works, enough so I'd argue it's trope worthy.