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Apr 15th 2012 at 7:12:03 PM

[up] You can probably just cutlist those.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:13:08 PM

We should wait until the Council is formed before suggesting things to cut.

Not that some of those shouldn't be cut.

Also, I am not a mod either.

edited 15th Apr '12 7:13:51 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:13:36 PM

...I don't think we should cutlist things until we have our council. I'm not a mod, so you don't have to listen to me.

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England
vigilantly taxonomish
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:13:47 PM

Not advocating for or against but Pokémon has 10 years olds with big breasts as well. To make a comparison.

Can we please stop doing this? Pokémon was not made to be masturbated to.

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lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower
Tsundere pet.
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:14:01 PM

Manga.Eiken ran in Shounen Champion, a manga magazine for teenage boys (majority of the readership is age 9-18, bar graph at top here shows data from the Japanese Magazine Publisher's Association) which is notorious for being trash-tastic. It is about high school kids involved in every kind of fanservice, suggestiveness, Not What It Looks Like, women falling over and losing all their clothing, suggestive popsicle-sucking raunch that it possibly can, but there is no sex whatsoever and it is not sexually explicit. It's a terrible manga (Jason Thompson, who read all of the manga published in English up to 2007 for a book, voted it one of the worst), but if it's going to go then the guidelines should be expanded from "no porn" to "no heavy fanservice".

edited 15th Apr '12 8:21:15 PM by lebrel

Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.
MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:14:43 PM

Let's not already get bogged down in arguing over particular works. This is just the place to request a review. The actual review by the council—with input by other tropers, of course—will come soon.
.... Is it too much to ask that such things be made clear from the get-go, PLEASE?

When we are crushing the black hearts of our oppressors, we will find our hands blackened.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:15:31 PM

Defending Gor: it has a lot of fans who'll talk your ear off about the quality of the worldbuilding. (It also has fans who'd rather gag you and tie you up, but I'm not sure the two groups even talk to each other.)

Defending Bible Black: The much-more-famous anime is reportedly almost plotless sex, but I've heard the original VN had an interesting and surprisingly complex plot. Has anyone played it who can verify?

edited 15th Apr '12 7:16:19 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:16:42 PM

This thread is where you can list pages that have been cut in the push to purge porn. Just list the page title once, please.
The entire OP, emphasis mine.

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros
Azor Ahai
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:17:52 PM

Self-thumped for being off-topic.

edited 15th Apr '12 7:19:39 PM by Jordan

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:18:41 PM

Sorry, sorry. I shouldn't have responded to the off-topic question.

edited 15th Apr '12 7:19:48 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:18:54 PM

^^ Actually, Gor hasn't been cut. The post I was responding to was calling for it to be cut. (However, Bible Black has been cut.)

edited 15th Apr '12 7:19:02 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:18:58 PM

Problem solved.

edited 15th Apr '12 7:20:47 PM by encrypted12345

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LargoQuagmire I'm so sick of this fake love Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I'm so sick of this fake love
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:19:53 PM

Having the Euroshlock designation back would really help sort some of the arthouse films on the site - oddly, a good chunk of them aren't red-linked, but the whole genre designation was.

edited 15th Apr '12 7:20:27 PM by LargoQuagmire

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal
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Apr 15th 2012 at 7:19:55 PM

No, I won't actually. People need to bring up legitimate well thought out and worded, arguments not just generalized points which can be applied across the board to works that obviously wouldn't apply. Using straw points doesn't help anyone and hurts other arguments and I will point out the flaws in them when I see them.

I don't care if an argument is on my side or not if someone tries pulling small cherry picked things, are basically just Look at this! arguments they will not get my respect and will be called out. For their flaws, this helps out everyone and should be done more often not less. Eventually people will create proper arguments and not just throw things into the wind and hope they stick.

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Apr 15th 2012 at 7:21:10 PM

Gorian is a synonym for rape fetishist in many parts of the internet for a reason. I admit The first books just had a creepy undercurrent and unpleasant antiwoman themes. But now and for most of the book series' history it turned into utter rape porn.

Also it's world building sucks, especially in the latter books because it was clearly written with one hand. It really is like reading Hitler's worldbuilding in a post All Non Aryans Are Dead sci fi novel.

Apr 15th 2012 at 7:22:48 PM

[up] Let's not use "this work is terrible quality" as an excuse.

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:23:48 PM

If we're just supposed to be naming names . . . Actually, why are we naming names here? Shouldn't we be going down the entire list of recent cuts, rather than just debating the restoration of whatever one person happened to notice had been cut? (Some of the cuts are pretty obscure, so even if someone would know whether they deserved to be cut, they might not notice that the page had been cut at all.)

edited 15th Apr '12 7:24:00 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Ironeye MOD Cutmaster-san from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:24:15 PM

If you want to discuss the actual policies involved, please take it to the thread about policies. This thread is just to petition for a particular cut page to be reviewed by the council once the council has been created.

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:25:10 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by the Stick of Off-Topic Thumping. Stay on topic, please.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:25:26 PM

^^ To clarify, if a page has been cut, and we don't specifically say in this thread to review its cut, its cut will not be reviewed?

edited 15th Apr '12 7:25:34 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower
Tsundere pet.
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:26:34 PM

nevermind.

edited 15th Apr '12 7:27:02 PM by lebrel

Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.
Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:26:38 PM

I cannot guarantee that such pages won't be reviewed, but if they're not listed here, they're likely to fall through the cracks.

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Apr 15th 2012 at 7:33:51 PM

Damnit. This is why I'm not reporting questionable works until after the review council is established.

(Would anyone be willing to go through the cutlist and make a list of all the cuts related to this purge? They're a bit hard to find amongst the regular cuts that happen every day.)

edited 15th Apr '12 7:34:08 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal
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Apr 15th 2012 at 7:38:35 PM

[up] Even harder due to all the web originals being moved over to web-video and web-series and all that.

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Apr 15th 2012 at 7:39:39 PM

All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles should be restored for the following reasons:

  1. The cut list reason was that it is hentai. It isn't hentai. It isn't even a work page. It is a trope.
  2. It is not a sex trope or porn trope. It is about stereotypical presentation of anime.
  3. None of the examples were about graphic sexual content or were graphically sexual in their description.
  4. None of the examples were from pornographic works, or even works that would warrant an R rating. They were mostly from works like The Onion.
  5. All the examples are objective examples of the use of the trope in works. It is not purely an Audience Reaction, nor is it complaining.
  6. It is a legitimate Sub-Trope of Public Medium Ignorance and Small Reference Pools.
  7. Since January 1, 2011 this article has brought 1,815 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

It might be desirable to rename the trope, but that is something that the TRS forum could handle.

edited 15th Apr '12 7:39:59 PM by Catbert


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