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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#1: Mar 9th 2012 at 12:28:14 PM

This seems like one of those trope pages that got written because somebody had a topic they wanted to write about. I think the title needs some clarity and the description expanded, but I'm not sure.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#2: Mar 9th 2012 at 12:50:45 PM

Suggest Extra Y Chromosome... XYY is obtuse even to a geneticist.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#3: Mar 9th 2012 at 12:58:51 PM

Eh, we covered it in Bio I, but it didn't cover any of this.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#4: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:00:19 PM

Yeah those effects are fictitious, like blood type affecting personality.

edited 9th Mar '12 1:16:42 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:00:42 PM

Since it's a moral justification trope, something like X Why Why Chromosome might be fun.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#6: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:01:17 PM

But completely non-indicative. Extra Y Chromosome is better.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:12:35 PM

As the main name.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#9: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:14:17 PM

Seems to me the trope isn't simply "Has an extra Y chromosome".

It's "XYY Males Are Violent" or "XYY Males Are Dangerous" or something like that. Maybe Extra Y Extra Dangerous or Extra Y, Extra Violent

edited 9th Mar '12 1:15:26 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:17:17 PM

Extra Y, Extra Violent is good for me.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#11: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:25:40 PM

I like Extra Y, Extra Violent.

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lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
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#12: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:28:06 PM

Extra Y, Extra Violent is fine.

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#13: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:34:51 PM

Extra Y, Extra Violent seems like a winner to me.

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#14: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:38:20 PM

What is the procedure in this case? Still by-the-book*

or what?

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#16: Mar 9th 2012 at 1:47:19 PM

Crowner superglued to thread.

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#18: Mar 9th 2012 at 9:32:00 PM

XYY So Violent?

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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#19: Mar 9th 2012 at 10:15:17 PM

[up]I like.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#20: Mar 9th 2012 at 11:15:16 PM

I think it needs more examples too. Perhaps a rewrite focusing on the trope itself rather than the misconceptions?

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#22: Mar 10th 2012 at 5:16:04 AM

[up][up]I think the trope is basically the misconceptions being played straight.

[up] Definitely near the top for me, too. So succinct.

edited 10th Mar '12 5:16:36 AM by pawsplay

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#23: Mar 10th 2012 at 8:34:27 AM

It is, but the page needs to concentrate on the ways and times the trope is used and less on why it's factually incorrect.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#24: Mar 10th 2012 at 11:24:20 AM

I can't really help with the trope description as I don't know too much about the trope itself, but I removed "You might not even know you have it, since the body will only take instructions off one." as that would be the X chromosome and not the Y one - this effect is known as "lyonization" but it only occurs with X.

Yes, this description needs expansion in the "trope" department.

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lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
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#25: Mar 10th 2012 at 5:37:21 PM

Unanimous with 24 votes in a day (is that a record)? Shall we let it go a bit longer, or go for a rename crowner now?

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