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I have to say that the X Men franchise has been going on for decades. Maybe not as many as the Superman franchise has, but it still has quite a number to it.
One thing I am certain of is that the franchise seems to be subverting Status Quo Is God in recent years. Magneto and Professor Xavier seem to be fading into the background, with Cyclops and Wolverine taking their places. A lot of villains associated to the X-Men have been killed off and have actually stayed dead so far.
All this gives me the general impression that the franchise is trying to reinvent itself. Do you think that's what's going on here?
Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 29th 2023 at 10:02:23 AM
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They're supposed to have internal logic.
How popular are corporations? Xavier's previous existing billions and X-Corporation have been spectacularly ineffectual in reversing anti-mutant prejudice. Facebook had net revenues of $111 billion in 2018, but it's held in disrepute and politicians threaten to break it up. An additional $40 billion wouldn't change much, certainly not give the economic domination describes.
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I’ve long lost the understanding of the purpose of this debate.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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It's like fantasy football but even dweebier.
"Facebook had net revenues of $111 billion in 2018, but it's held in disrepute and politicians threaten to break it up." I mean, it also plays a pretty major role in political campaigns, and influences society as a whole.
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It's useful as a tool, but the company itself isn't liked. The conspiracy theory is that in 2016 they helped elect a candidate almost all of their management and employees opposed.
Not very much. They might like the properties,but the companies themselves are often derided, such as when Disney sues a daycare for trademark infringement.
It was whether Magneto and Krakoa had the means to financially dominate the world with their revenues, but it seems to be exhausted.
Edited by alliterator on Jan 21st 2020 at 7:19:56 AM
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So about the whole "Revive ALL THE DEAD MUTANTS" thing... think that includes the dead X-Statix members? If so... oh boy.
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Yep. The only mutants it doesn't include are the ones from before Cerebro was made (which was I believe just prior to X-Men #1) and clairvoyants (those who can see the future).
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Speaking of X-Statix, I can't help but WTF at one detail from the recent one-shot with them. See, the new U-Go Girl is the daughter of the original, who was briefly glimpsed as a toddler in the original series. Now? She's in college. Yes, for some inexplicable reason, this one character has aged in real-time, even though nobody else does. 
Edited by HamburgerTime on Jan 22nd 2020 at 10:29:35 AM
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
I mean, the book also has The A, the son of the Anarchist, and Phatty, the daughter of Phat, both all grown up despite the fact that none of them were ever mentioned before. Also, Mister Sensitive and Vivasector are alive again despite definitely dying (although this could be chalked up to the book taking place after the Resurrection Protocols were in place).
The sliding timeline is confusing anyway (the original X-Men apparently still grew up in the '60s despite the fact that they should have definitely grown up in the early 2000s) so the thing is, just ignore it and have fun.
Edited by alliterator on Jan 22nd 2020 at 8:47:17 AM
Maybe that's why they want Franklin so bad they need thst sweet sweet age stunting
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
Where exactly did the WMG that Franklin is slowing everyone's aging come from? Has it actually been implied in a story?
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."Xavier: "We'll bring back every mutant who died!"
Scott: "Including X-Statix?"
Xavier: "No. Fuck those guys."
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X-Men/Fantastic Four #1 in a nutshell: Damn it, Reed!
The Mad Doctor
Franklin went to a selfish brat who cares only about godhood to a somewhat nuanced selfish brat who cares only about godhood.
I like his character more already.
Reed fucked up but the mutants could have eased up on acting like a cult to try and get Franklin instead of going full sex cult and prattle about superiority. I really hope it's revealed sublime mutated and is controlling all mutants now to make them a creepy sex cult
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
So Hickman's solution to the way the X-Men have been treated is to make them all act like jerks?
No sir. I don't like it.
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Takat Empress
Yeah, the recruitment went too far why can't they leave some Mutants alone?
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It's not superhero comics if there isn't some misunderstanding that results in punch-ups.
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And I used to like that, but now I'm feeling like it's no longer excusable.
Also, I fully read it: Spectacular move there Reed.
He screwed up his own advice about waiting and decided things for Franklin instead.
I've read a bit of Hickman: does he have a habit of ramping up certain negative aspects of characters?
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While their methods are admittedly questionable, I stand by the opinion that anyone seeing the X-Men as full-on villains probably cheered for the sentinels or would use the term, "mutie" in real life.
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
Whoa!
No, don't do that! That's not cool!
Listen, I'm fully on board with the X-men not being anyone's punching bags anymore.
But I still want them to be heroes. That's my issue! Why do they also need to be jerks! There is something...off about Krakoa, and I feel like that's meant to keep you from being totally on their side when you should be 100% on their side.
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If you spent the last 50+ years trying to be nice and make peace with humans only to be met with contempt and constant genocide, you'd be pretty forceful as well.
All of that being said, there is something kind of fishy about why Xavier and co need Franklin now as supposed to when he's 18 and legally an adult. Perhaps they're afraid that his powers will have fully faded by then, but even then, still suspect.
I do like how this comics depicts neither side as 100% in the right.
