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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Jan 18th 2020 at 11:38:13 PM

I can point out when the logic doesn't make sense.
The logic makes perfect sense. Xavier is already a billionaire and is getting billions more from the drugs. That money doesn't need to be used for Krakoa, since Krakoa is self-sustaining, so it can be used to invest in banks, schools, media, and politicians and use them to change public policy and public perception of mutants. It's a sound plan that, let me remind you, has been used many, many times by large corporations.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Jan 20th 2020 at 3:36:00 AM

[up][up]They're supposed to have internal logic.

[up]How popular are corporations? Xavier's previous existing billions and X-Corporation have been spectacularly ineffectual in reversing anti-mutant prejudice. Facebook had net revenues of $111 billion in 2018, but it's held in disrepute and politicians threaten to break it up. An additional $40 billion wouldn't change much, certainly not give the economic domination describes.

slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Jan 20th 2020 at 6:14:25 AM

Iíve long lost the understanding of the purpose of this debate.

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
RodimusMinor Displeased
Displeased
Jan 20th 2020 at 6:57:56 AM

It's like fantasy football but even dweebier.

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Jan 20th 2020 at 7:35:32 AM

How popular are corporations?
I don't know, ask people whether or not they like Disney or Marvel.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Relationship Status: Brony
Jan 20th 2020 at 10:08:41 PM

"Facebook had net revenues of $111 billion in 2018, but it's held in disrepute and politicians threaten to break it up." I mean, it also plays a pretty major role in political campaigns, and influences society as a whole.

X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.
Jan 21st 2020 at 5:17:09 AM

[up]It's useful as a tool, but the company itself isn't liked. The conspiracy theory is that in 2016 they helped elect a candidate almost all of their management and employees opposed.

[up][up]Not very much. They might like the properties,but the companies themselves are often derided, such as when Disney sues a daycare for trademark infringement.

[up][up][up][up]It was whether Magneto and Krakoa had the means to financially dominate the world with their revenues, but it seems to be exhausted.

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Jan 21st 2020 at 7:19:35 AM

It was whether Magneto and Krakoa had the means to financially dominate the world with their revenues, but it seems to be exhausted.
This is completely incorrect.

Not very much.
Also incorrect.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 21st 2020 at 7:19:56 AM

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
HamburgerTime My OTP is more obscure than yours from Obscure ship avatar for February Relationship Status: I know
My OTP is more obscure than yours
Jan 22nd 2020 at 3:59:25 PM

So about the whole "Revive ALL THE DEAD MUTANTS" thing... think that includes the dead X-Statix members? If so... oh boy.

There's nothing that needs mending/Just follow my words, they will lead you to the ending.
alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Jan 22nd 2020 at 8:07:22 PM

Yep. The only mutants it doesn't include are the ones from before Cerebro was made (which was I believe just prior to X-Men #1) and clairvoyants (those who can see the future).

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
HamburgerTime My OTP is more obscure than yours from Obscure ship avatar for February Relationship Status: I know
My OTP is more obscure than yours
Jan 22nd 2020 at 8:29:27 PM

Speaking of X-Statix, I can't help but WTF at one detail from the recent one-shot with them. See, the new U-Go Girl is the daughter of the original, who was briefly glimpsed as a toddler in the original series. Now? She's in college. Yes, for some inexplicable reason, this one character has aged in real-time, even though nobody else does. tongue

Edited by HamburgerTime on Jan 22nd 2020 at 10:29:35 AM

There's nothing that needs mending/Just follow my words, they will lead you to the ending.
alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Jan 22nd 2020 at 8:46:40 PM

I mean, the book also has The A, the son of the Anarchist, and Phatty, the daughter of Phat, both all grown up despite the fact that none of them were ever mentioned before. Also, Mister Sensitive and Vivasector are alive again despite definitely dying (although this could be chalked up to the book taking place after the Resurrection Protocols were in place).

The sliding timeline is confusing anyway (the original X-Men apparently still grew up in the '60s despite the fact that they should have definitely grown up in the early 2000s) so the thing is, just ignore it and have fun.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 22nd 2020 at 8:47:17 AM

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Jan 22nd 2020 at 9:41:14 PM

Maybe that's why they want Franklin so bad they need thst sweet sweet age stunting

HamburgerTime My OTP is more obscure than yours from Obscure ship avatar for February Relationship Status: I know
My OTP is more obscure than yours
Jan 22nd 2020 at 9:42:50 PM

Where exactly did the WMG that Franklin is slowing everyone's aging come from? Has it actually been implied in a story?

There's nothing that needs mending/Just follow my words, they will lead you to the ending.
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Relationship Status: Brony
Jan 23rd 2020 at 10:26:06 PM

Xavier: "We'll bring back every mutant who died!"

Scott: "Including X-Statix?"

Xavier: "No. Fuck those guys."

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JWR Black, nerdy, and loving it!
Black, nerdy, and loving it!
Feb 5th 2020 at 5:46:34 AM

X-Men/Fantastic Four #1 in a nutshell: Damn it, Reed!

Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor
The Mad Doctor
Feb 5th 2020 at 6:42:21 AM

Franklin went to a selfish brat who cares only about godhood to a somewhat nuanced selfish brat who cares only about godhood.

I like his character more already.

Feb 5th 2020 at 9:48:38 AM

Reed fucked up but the mutants could have eased up on acting like a cult to try and get Franklin instead of going full sex cult and prattle about superiority. I really hope it's revealed sublime mutated and is controlling all mutants now to make them a creepy sex cult

HandsomeRob Completely trustworthy from The world that never was Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Completely trustworthy
Feb 5th 2020 at 10:51:17 AM

So Hickman's solution to the way the X-Men have been treated is to make them all act like jerks?

No sir. I don't like it.

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Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Zappy Zappy Lady
Feb 5th 2020 at 11:01:28 AM

Yeah, the recruitment went too far why can't they leave some Mutants alone?

See Ya!
RodimusMinor Displeased
Displeased
Feb 5th 2020 at 11:02:17 AM

It's not superhero comics if there isn't some misunderstanding that results in punch-ups.

HandsomeRob Completely trustworthy from The world that never was Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Completely trustworthy
Feb 5th 2020 at 11:13:36 AM

And I used to like that, but now I'm feeling like it's no longer excusable.

Also, I fully read it: Spectacular move there Reed.

He screwed up his own advice about waiting and decided things for Franklin instead.

I've read a bit of Hickman: does he have a habit of ramping up certain negative aspects of characters?

Everyone is XEHANORT
JWR Black, nerdy, and loving it!
Black, nerdy, and loving it!
Feb 5th 2020 at 11:24:35 AM

While their methods are admittedly questionable, I stand by the opinion that anyone seeing the X-Men as full-on villains probably cheered for the sentinels or would use the term, "mutie" in real life.

HandsomeRob Completely trustworthy from The world that never was Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Completely trustworthy
Feb 5th 2020 at 11:28:09 AM

Whoa!

No, don't do that! That's not cool!

Listen, I'm fully on board with the X-men not being anyone's punching bags anymore.

But I still want them to be heroes. That's my issue! Why do they also need to be jerks! There is something...off about Krakoa, and I feel like that's meant to keep you from being totally on their side when you should be 100% on their side.

Everyone is XEHANORT
JWR Black, nerdy, and loving it!
Black, nerdy, and loving it!
Feb 5th 2020 at 11:33:40 AM

[up] If you spent the last 50+ years trying to be nice and make peace with humans only to be met with contempt and constant genocide, you'd be pretty forceful as well.

All of that being said, there is something kind of fishy about why Xavier and co need Franklin now as supposed to when he's 18 and legally an adult. Perhaps they're afraid that his powers will have fully faded by then, but even then, still suspect.

I do like how this comics depicts neither side as 100% in the right.


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