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    Original OP 
Okay, it seems to me that the thread on "X-Men: Schism" has run its course, and since everyone seems to be commenting on how the conversation is talking about general parts of the franchise, I guess I should start a thread talking about all that.

I have to say that the X Men franchise has been going on for decades. Maybe not as many as the Superman franchise has, but it still has quite a number to it.

One thing I am certain of is that the franchise seems to be subverting Status Quo Is God in recent years. Magneto and Professor Xavier seem to be fading into the background, with Cyclops and Wolverine taking their places. A lot of villains associated to the X-Men have been killed off and have actually stayed dead so far.

All this gives me the general impression that the franchise is trying to reinvent itself. Do you think that's what's going on here?

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 29th 2023 at 10:02:23 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#8226: Dec 17th 2019 at 8:58:10 PM

[up]X4

So where was Karima's invite?

And what about all the other human supporters of the Xmen?

I'm still wondering where they are?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#8227: Dec 17th 2019 at 9:01:12 PM

Do you expect them to uproot their lives & move to an unknown place just for a political statement?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#8228: Dec 17th 2019 at 9:09:07 PM

Well no. I guess not

....Maybe for a riot.cool

<Sits back to see if anyone gets it>

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neutrino Since: Feb, 2017
#8229: Dec 18th 2019 at 4:13:59 AM

Magneto made it clear that "Man is not welcome here." Jubilee had such a bad nightmare about Apocalypse getting his hands on Shogo while he was in Krakoa in Excalibur #3 that she brought him with her. Even if he is allowed to live there, will they download the language into his brain? How will get by without being able to use the gates to other parts of the island? Xavier seems to be going for an us vs. them theme. How will Jubilee explain that the "they" in "Look what they've done to us" refers to him?

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#8230: Dec 18th 2019 at 5:49:49 AM

So according to today's History of Marvel Universe#6, there's another X-Wedding on the way

Emma Frost and Tony Stark

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#8231: Dec 18th 2019 at 5:52:50 AM

I give em 3 days.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#8232: Dec 18th 2019 at 5:56:09 AM

Honestly, most of the time the citizens of the MU are either 100% justified in hating superheroes or at least it is a lot more understandable than the narrative is willing to admit.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#8233: Dec 18th 2019 at 8:23:03 AM

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So we're all assuming mind control right? Because Emma doesn't seem like she'd trust Tony...or respect him...in fact it's probably about his resources.

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#8234: Dec 18th 2019 at 1:06:09 PM

[up] Mind control, LMD, blackmail,

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#8235: Dec 18th 2019 at 3:04:56 PM

Hell, we recently learned that The real Tony died in Civil War 2, so is Emma marrying the copy?

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#8236: Dec 18th 2019 at 5:51:57 PM

Can't humans be turned into mutants? Any cult worth a cent should be able of doing it. And if Namor could turn humans into atlanteans, it shouldn't be too hard.

Perhaps they may even use their resurrection trick? Download all the person's mind, kill his human body and resurrect him in a similar body, but mutant. Also, in the process they would detect and erase any anti-mutant secret agenda, preventing moles.

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#8237: Dec 18th 2019 at 6:00:10 PM

People can indeed be turned into artificial mutants. In fact it was recently revealed that one of Sinister's many experiments on himself was to give himself an X-gene, rendering him admissible to Krakoa.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#8238: Dec 18th 2019 at 6:05:40 PM

[up][up]the reason namor has been so fucked up was retconned to be xavier fucking with his mind after namor killed someone whose mutant power was to do that and xavier wanted to use him to make more mutants

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#8239: Dec 18th 2019 at 6:26:02 PM

Yeesh.

So in order to fix Namor, they mess up Xavier even more.

Maybe if they just stopped making these characters we're supposed to view as heroes (flawed heroes mind you, but still heroes) cross one horizon after another, they wouldn't have to keep doing this shit.

And now they've had Carol flat out murder Tony. She'll recover, because Tony recovered from the first Civil War, but this one is gonna leave a scar.

It's like writers want to ruin these characters.

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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#8240: Dec 18th 2019 at 6:28:49 PM

Carol sucks anyway so it's all good. Can't ruin an already trash character.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#8241: Dec 18th 2019 at 6:30:35 PM

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I believe you need to add an IMHO to that.

As someone who likes Carol (but acknowledges she's had some trash moments and made some trash moves), I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that.

Remember: Carol once punched Rogue into space. She's had her good days.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Dec 18th 2019 at 7:30:59 AM

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#8242: Dec 18th 2019 at 7:44:06 PM

If that was after she stole Carol's powers and memories, i can't hold it against her.

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#8243: Dec 18th 2019 at 8:00:48 PM

They kinda slipped with giving her a push.

Wake me up at your own risk.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#8244: Dec 18th 2019 at 8:26:04 PM

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Indeed it was...and just after Carol became Binary, so she was pretty damned strong.

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#8245: Dec 18th 2019 at 8:37:38 PM

Marauders saw the surprising return of everyone's least favorite Hellfire Club Yes, the Heckfire Clubhouse is back.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#8247: Dec 18th 2019 at 9:06:20 PM

The Hellfire Club used to be made up of children. This was during Jason Aaron's run on Wolverine and the X-Men. They...weren't that popular.

TheMageofFire Magical Girl in Training from A Warehouse Out by Sea Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Magical Girl in Training
#8248: Dec 18th 2019 at 9:31:02 PM

Even as a guy who liked Aaron's run on that...Booooy do the Hellfire Brats suuuuuuuuuck.

Stella ~Part 3 (Atelier Shallie)
Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#8249: Dec 19th 2019 at 12:30:39 PM

Honestly, a group of Enfant Terrible children as supervillains would be interesting if they all didn't have the same personality of evil cray cray with a different quirk. Business cray cray, martial arts cray cray, slaver cray cray, and mad scientist cray cray. They weren't used to the fullest extent they could have been used either despite getting so many issues.

At least we have this image to compensate for it.

https://imgur.com/a/oZX43V1

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#8250: Dec 19th 2019 at 12:34:40 PM

What was the Heckfire Kid's main problems again?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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