X-Men In General

I’ve never really liked how isolationist the Mutants have become over the years. Even Claremont usually had them on generally good terms with the rest of the hero community, and even made Carol an honorary member after she lost her powers.

Renew Your Vows teased Annie going to Professor X’s school, but it’s not really been explored beyond that.

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 17th 2019 at 7:50:36 AM

With all the shit they've gone through in universe, and how some Xmen writers insist on isolating them from the rest of the MU (combined with the entire Fox-verse / MCU debacle) meta wise, it doesn't shock me.

I very much agree it's not a good thing. While it's nice to see all mutants getting their ducks in a row, I'm still very bothered by how mutant society seems to be going for separating themselves from humanity again in Hickman's run.

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That's just how Hickman's starting, it might not necessarily be the default thing later on or near the end.

So Deadpool isn't a true blue mutant?

Well, that's disappointing...

x3. I’ve said this before, but I would love to see an X-Men book where they actually take a leaf from real life disability theory, and apply a type of social model to it. Then we can actually address questions like:

• What’s the difference between a “Mutant” and a someone that’s who was born with/inherited powers?
• Can a person that got powers due to external sources identify as a Mutant?
• What about Mutants that develop powers later in life, versus Mutants who are born with them? Is one more “Mutant“ than the other?
  • Does that have an effect on self perception and their relationship to the Mutant community?

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 17th 2019 at 9:47:22 AM

Deadpool not being a mutant is a running gag in the comics, with multiple X-Men having told Deadpool he's not mutant.

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One question me and my friend talked about a night or two ago was the question of what happens if and when Krakoa has to deal with human refugees from conflict.

The xenophobic attitudes and viewing themselves as "more", and human society as uniformly bad almost demands such a storyline.

I was also left distinctly feeling gross by the "you have real family on Krakoa" thing directed at little Franklin.

Sign on for this After The End Fantasy RP.

That would be a really interesting story. Krakoa's a little different from most nations, in that it's already a refuge for a persecuted group. A quick Google on Israel suggests its own refugee policy is, erm, not great. That would suggest Krakoa wouldn't be welcoming to non-mutant refugees. But there are plenty within Israel who disagree with the government's policies, so a story where the X-Men are at odds on accepting non-mutant refugees would make for a good story.

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. Ona related note, I wonder what their policy on Mutants that develop powers later in life, as opposed to being born with them would be?

Also, how would they respond to people who are born with/inherited powers but not technically not mutants?

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 18th 2019 at 10:37:24 AM

Most mutants develop their powers during puberty; the ones that are born with their powers are pretty rare. (The only one I can remember who was born with his powers is Jamie Madrox and it turned out that he was actually a Changeling, a genetic predecessor to mutants whose powers manifest at birth instead of puberty, although they could also just be a subset of mutants.)

Edited by alliterator on Aug 18th 2019 at 8:06:35 AM

Beast also had his powers at birth if I recall.

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then that’s going to be an issue for them as well.

If 2 Krakoans had kids, how would they know if the kids were mutants or not?

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 18th 2019 at 1:25:45 PM

Generally, you can test for the X-gene even in children whose mutations haven't manifested.

Edited by alliterator on Aug 18th 2019 at 10:44:43 AM

I just came up with a great idea for a way to invade Earth:

1) First send out a bunch of Sentinels all over the planet, but not have them attack;

2) Initiate a plan that's a carbon copy of Film Magneto and Animated Apocalype's plans to turn a large number of baseline humans into mutants;

3) Hilarity Ensues.

It's perfect. All those mutant bigots being turned into mutants themselves and hunted by the robots they are so sure will protect them would make me laugh.

Of course, both plans had the plot point that artificially triggering the X-Gene would kill a large number of people. Magneto never knew that (and I wonder if he'd have cared if he did know), and Apocalypse had that as part of his plan considering his Social Darwinist attitude.

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Use magic instead. It's objectively more efficient if X-Men 92 is any indication. It requires a single blood sacrifice to mutate billions.

Yeah. Ok.

And then, watch what they think of Mutants now.

Now, assuming there's no point in hating mutants when everyone is a mutant is likely giving a large number of humanity too much credit....

...but nobody will tell the Sentinels that. If it looks like a mutie, talks like a mutie and is hated and feared like a mutie...

Yeah, that's good petard hoisting if you ask me.

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Poor Sentinel X-42903-22 ^note  aka the Sentinel that realized that it was programmed to feel heartbreak after Doreen refused to date him. (USG vol. 2, #8) I mean he's still evil and that, but still, who programs a Sentinel to feel heartbreak?

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 18th 2019 at 5:52:43 AM

A recurring theme that phases in and out is mutants separating and stratifying themselves based on the power/usefulness/subtlety of their abilities. While Apocalypse takes this to the (il)logical conclusion, most of the mutant groups besides the Morlocks and the X-men teams Xavier personally supervises have that to some degree. After all, poor bastards like Beak or Bertram get almost as much crap from other mutants for their nigh-useless but highly obvious mutations as they do from baseline humans.

I want one of these.

Okay. Powers of X #3.

The issue completely takes place in Year 100, The War. And yes, it turns out that this is actually Moira's ninth life, therefore the timeline right before House of X and their mission is to find out where and when Nimrod came online, so Moira can prevent it with her next life.

Some interesting bits: the Four Horsemen.
WAR - Wolverine
DEATH - Xorn
PESTILENCE - North (DNA combination of Lorna Dane and Emma Frost)
FAMINE - Krakoa/Cypher

Cardinal is a combination between Kurt Wagner, Rachel Grey, and "Freeman." I don't know of any mutants with the last name "Freeman" though.

Moira IX is in statis and she is referred to as "Mother." Curiously, Apocalypse is referred to as an "External," which previously were considered immortal mutants, but then were retconned away. Perhaps Hickman is retconning them back and making Apocalypse one?

Rasputin destroys Omega Sentinel by opening Xorn's mask and letting out the singularity. Since in Year 1000, we only see Nimrod and not Omega, that might still be this future, although Moira does die at the end of this issue.

Oh yeah, Moira has Wolverine kill her. The title — "This Is What You Do" — refers to her telling Wolverine that.

NEXT: ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH

THEN: IT WILL BE DONE

Edited by alliterator on Aug 21st 2019 at 7:29:17 AM

Cylobel's still in the tank in year 10^3 so that should suggest that and 10^2 are continuous with each other

Unless Cylobel comes about in both futures in which case I got nothing

Which I kinda hope happens because Rasputin is rad and I can't get enough of her.

Also interesting to see that already in 10^2 that the Man-Machine Ascendancy already started thinking of embracing The Singularity, lends credence to the idea that the mutants in Moira X's timeline is engaged in an arms race to beat them to it first.

Moira IX's timeline being before HOX does explain how the X-Men was so ruthlessly efficient with Krakoa's setup in HOX 1 though there seems to be the missing piece of what actually happened in the ninth timeline with Krakoa that needed to be done differently.

It might just be the difference between time periods at play but Krakoa under Apocalypse being dismal and foreboding in comparison to the warm and vibrant Krakoa under Xavier is an interesting contrast. (I assume Xavier has nothing to do with Krakoa in the ninth timeline considering he died so early on but who knows)

Edited by Nouct on Aug 21st 2019 at 7:57:19 AM

Bleeding Cool found the best typo. APOCLAYPSE.

Do we know that Cardinal is from Rachel Grey? Couldn't it be Jean Grey?

It could be, although both would be telepathy.

Interesting insight into HOX/POX.