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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
  • Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.

[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#110151: Sep 23rd 2019 at 1:59:39 PM

um what card?I don't follow

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 23rd 2019 at 8:59:50 AM

New theme music also a box
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#110152: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:02:09 PM

Instead of saying Jameson hates him for being black, he could just make the guy look like an antisemite.

Wake me up at your own risk.
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#110153: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:02:17 PM

[up][up] “He hates me for my race!” That’s the defense he’s trying to make.

[up] And playing that card is any better?

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:04:43 AM

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#110154: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:06:45 PM

"You just hate me because you hate spiders!"

"Of course I hate spiders,horrible things!"

New theme music also a box
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#110155: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:06:46 PM

I don't think very many people will care or make that big a deal over the joke.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:07:03 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#110156: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:12:13 PM

I agree with Tobias but I also don't particularly think that taking jokes 1:1 from the comics works out all that well most of the time anyway.

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:15:45 AM

This song needs more love.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#110157: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:14:59 PM

And playing that card is any better?

Because Peter Parker actually is Jewish.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#110158: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:33:41 PM

[up] He isn't. Peter B Parker is Jewish, but main universe 616 Peter Parker is Protestant.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#110159: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:36:59 PM

How rare is the protestant card then? tongue

Guess it work if the accuser was like methodist or something.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:37:40 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#110160: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:39:22 PM

[up][up] Ultimate Peter is Jewish, though. If we're talking Holland!Peter, he allegedly is mostly based of USM, so he would be Jewish too.

Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#110161: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:51:14 PM

Miss me? I don't think so. Or I am wrong.

I. Have. Finally. Watched... Captain America: The Winter Soldier!note 

Summary: Cap discovers something sinister and game-changing within S.H.I.E.L.D., so he, Nat, Sam and Fury have to save the world. Meanwhile, the Winter Soldier has a mission: kill Steve.note 

Stan Lee cameo: A security guard at the Smithsonian museum.

Observations:

  1. This film is darker, more emotional and raises the stakes quite a bit.
  2. Cap fights more dynamic.
  3. First Appearance of: Sam Wilson / The Falcon, Sharon Carter / Agent 13, Brock Rumlow / Crossbones and the Maximoffs, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
  4. So, HYDRA was reborn as S.H.I.E.L.D., and was also behind the murder of Howard and Maria Stark? What a twist!
  5. Zola is indeed Creepy Awesome as an AI-like figure! And he also experimented on Bucky Barnes to become the Winter Soldier, and froze him.
  6. And thus begins the love story between Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes...note 
  7. Nick Fury burns his files, his eyepatch and decides to go to Europe... speaking of his eyepatch, it was creepy to see him without his eyepatch the other eye... brrrr...
  8. The Winter Soldier's leitmotif is kinda scary (especially this strange noise I hear whenever he's here).
  9. Dr. Stephen Strange is mentioned here.

The Stinger: Two-pack again!

  1. Two mysterious people (who may or may not work for HYDRA) watch at... the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
  2. Bucky Barnes discovers at the Smithsonian Museum that he is believed dead in the history annals in the Captain America zone.

10/10, ladies and gentlemen!note 

Captain America will return in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

And don't forget to *whispers in your ear* Hail HYDRA!

Edited by Andrei_Bondoc on Sep 23rd 2019 at 12:53:56 PM

"Scooby Dooby Doo!"
AyyItsMidnight Ordinary Corrupt Android Love Since: Oct, 2018
Ordinary Corrupt Android Love
#110162: Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:54:11 PM

Yay! The first 2nd installment in the MCU to actually improve upon the first. Glad you had a great time.

Self-serious autistic metalhead who goes by any pronouns. (avvie template source)
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#110163: Sep 23rd 2019 at 3:31:59 PM

speaking of his eyepatch, it was creepy to see him without his eyepatch the other eye... brrrr...

Wait until the films reveal how exactly Fury lost his eye. I'm not gonna give it away, but there's a very good reason his eye is that messed up.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Sep 23rd 2019 at 6:32:09 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#110164: Sep 23rd 2019 at 3:37:12 PM

No, not really.

It was a waste of a perfectly good Chekhov's Gun.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#110165: Sep 23rd 2019 at 3:38:51 PM

Basically it comes down to how hype you placed into it.

Weirdguy149 The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher from A cabin in the woods Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher
#110166: Sep 23rd 2019 at 3:50:37 PM

Huh, I thought Guardians was next.

Jason has come back to kill for Mommy.
AyyItsMidnight Ordinary Corrupt Android Love Since: Oct, 2018
Ordinary Corrupt Android Love
#110167: Sep 23rd 2019 at 3:54:19 PM

[up]It is. Chase is referring to a much later one that I won't spoil for the new guy but the rest of us know.

Self-serious autistic metalhead who goes by any pronouns. (avvie template source)
Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#110168: Sep 23rd 2019 at 3:57:27 PM

And you all know... who I am.

Just visit my trope page, alright?

"Scooby Dooby Doo!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#110169: Sep 23rd 2019 at 3:57:29 PM

I still think my explanation is funnier,hes got a lazy eye

[up]I will do no such thing

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 23rd 2019 at 10:59:05 AM

New theme music also a box
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#110170: Sep 23rd 2019 at 3:59:13 PM

Okay now the Titan Battle synced to Giorno's theme.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:00:34 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#110171: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:30:40 PM

The fandom just went out and watched a movie that they liked. They're not the bad guys here. Neither are Sony or Disney. In fact, the most toxic and pervasive piece of discourse surrounding the split is the idea that there even has to be a bad guy. A lot of people are angry and just looking for someone to stick blame to. Someone to hate

Damn. Thread moved like lightning while I was gone.

Anyway this is 100% true...unfortunately. I shouldn’t have said what I said and would like to apologize.

One Strip! One Strip!
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#110172: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:41:26 PM

[up]x2 I'd say Giorno's theme is the new Guile theme, but then I'd miss saying that it's actually the new Ao T Opening, but then then I'd miss saying it's the new "You Say Run".

...just me or is the intervals getting shorter?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#110173: Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:22:32 PM

[up][up]

And now that I've watched the video, I agree that it works abnormally well.

Though nothing will beat Guren No Yumiya synched perfectly to the first season opening of Sailor Moon Crystal.

That was uncanny.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 23rd 2019 at 6:22:49 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#110174: Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:23:17 PM

[up][up]People like making good music, what, do you want them to stop? Do you want us to just have bad music?

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:23:47 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#110175: Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:35:20 PM

Internet got big and EarWorms and memes are easy to spread.

Edited by Blueace on Sep 23rd 2019 at 9:35:44 AM

Wake me up at your own risk.

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