Marvel Cinematic Universe

The MCU is grounded compared to the comics but pretty fanciful compared to other superhero movies

And it's getting less and less so over time.

In fact, I'd argue that instead of being much less sillier than the comics (it is, but the gap is getting smaller every year), the MCU is simply more coherent, because it has set goals in mind and isn't being created by 30+ writers all throwing random ideas to the wall to see which one sticks, with editorial teams changing every decade or so and forcing everyone to switch gears and go in another random direction.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 11th 2019 at 1:49:04 PM

From what I remember, Lockheed is set to appear in The New Mutants... whenever the hell that's supposed to come out.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Sep 11th 2019 at 10:22:33 AM

Regarding Robbie riding a motorcycle; it's not a big deal for me, but I can understand being put off by some of the changes made for Robbie.

I like Robbie's Dodge Charger, but I've got my own hill to die on regarding the character. My main complaint about Robbie is that he doesn't host Zarathos, the Spirit of Vengeance. Everyone else gets to host Zarathos. It's what makes them Ghost Rider. But Robbie gets stuck with Uncle Eli, who is the ghost of a murderer and somehow gives him Zarathos-like powers.

Like, would it have been that hard to just give him Zarathos?

Apparently not, because Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. let him f*cking have Zarathos. And it was great! Probably my favorite season-portion in the history of the show.

And now Robbie's getting a Hulu show which may or may not have anything to do with his role on S.H.I.E.L.D. So I really hope they don't throw out Zarathos and stick him with Eli.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 11th 2019 at 8:23:53 AM

The comics also recently implied that he has Zarathos too.

Yeah, I guess thats a fair point.

Edited by Bocaj on Sep 11th 2019 at 10:24:51 AM

My point is that the IM movies weren't made at a time when the studio felt audiences were ready to see stuff like Iron Man throwing down with a talking alien dragon.

Just in case no one misunderstands me, I love SHIELD Robbie, he's my favorite character from the show and the only reason I bothered to watch the first half of season 4.

I'd just, you know, prefer if he rode a bike, s'all.

Also, the Helstrom show has the working title of "Omens" and is set to start filming on October 7.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 11th 2019 at 8:14:47 AM

...See this is why I won’t shed a tear if New Mutants never gets released.

As for the Adventure into Fear line of shows, Omens and Ghost Rider will be two, but what about the other two? Blade’s getting a movie so The Tomb of Dracula is out, anyone else?

Edited by Beatman1 on Sep 11th 2019 at 11:27:25 AM

It can't be Blade or Moon Knight, since that's also getting a Disney+ show.

I'm guessing it will either be Man-Thing (already mentioned in Agents of SHIELD) or Werewolf by Night. Or possibly a team show, Midnight Sons, made up of less popular characters like Jennifer Kale.

Wasn't there a dragon in Ragnarok?

That was the fire dude rather then a dragon

Dragons are very much a signature of fantasy stories so I expect if any do appear they'll be an Dr.Strange movie where things magic go hand in hand with dragons

Yeah, that was Surtr, king of the Fire Giants, ruler of the volcanic realm Muspelheim.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 11th 2019 at 11:45:32 AM

What about the rocket lizard?

his resemblance to the Avatar of Khaine is uncanny

FUN FACT: During the mythical Ragnarok, Loki and Heimdall are supposed to fight each other after Loki slips free from captivity. They would both kill each other and die together.

Instead, they were both killed by Thanos in the same scene.

Sutr had a pet attack dragon though. It got decapitated by the portal closing.

Whenever Chris Hemsworth is ready to leave the franchise, the final Thor movie should have the Midgard Serpent as its villain. There have been multiple adaptations of the character in the comics, so there's plenty of material to draw from. Some of Marvel's depictions have been literally the great wall of snake while others have been a bit more abstract, but the idea of Jormungandr has popped up a lot.

I can think of no better swan song for Thor than facing his mythical archnemesis Jormungandr. Slaying the Serpent, taking those mythical nine paces, and falling.

Bonus points, you could probably make some kind of environmentalist theme around the Midgard Serpent belching poison into the atmosphere.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 11th 2019 at 11:55:00 AM

And the snake,the snake is Loki all along!

I remember when the trailer for The Avengers (2012) first came out, and people thought the Leviathan that was chasing Iron Man was the Midgard Serpent.

Obviously, that wasn't the case, but it wasn't that big a stretch considering Loki was the main villain. It certainly was a surprise first watching it to see Loki unleash a swarm of the things.

Was Jormungandr the snake that was Loki's son, or was someone else?

x5 & 7 Yes, it was Surtu's pet rocket dragon whom I was referring to.

His son yes.

Also Hela & her wolf Fenrir are his kids in the myths as well.

Also Odin’s personal steed I recall or was he just mated with it as a female horse?

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 11th 2019 at 11:24:32 AM

Sleipnir the eight-legged horse is the son of Loki with a stallion (He was a mare at the time, you see) and the personal steed of Odin.

Has the ability to travel through all nine realms. If the movies insist on going the Science Fantasy route I imagine he wouod be turned into a spaceship capable of using the Bifrost that was designed by Loki as a gift to his father.

Which I think it would be lame, but that's just me.

Sleipnir appeared as a horse in Thor 1.