Marvel Cinematic Universe

It's a little bit of both. Hulk works better as a supporting character, but also, why should Disney share the Distribution money if it can bag it all just by putting another name into the title?

Thanos is Lawful Evil. The problem is that he made up the laws.

My various fanfics.

I think Thanos thinks of himself as Chaotic Good. He's not doing good things, but he sees them as necessary for a better future. He doesn't hate anyone who stands in his way, he recognizes that they're just trying to save the people they love and he respects and admires them for that. It doesn't change his mind that half of everyone must die, but he does seem to genuinely hold no animosity towards the people trying to stop him from acheiving his goal.

Thanos' actions on Nidavellir kinda undercut that notion though.

If he was so committed to his balance plan, he'd only have killed half the dwarves.

And if he just wanted to make sure he was safe from any future weapons forged there, he'd have killed all of them and destroyed the forge completely.

Instead he leaves one crippled survivor to suffer, and is confident but mistaken that the forge won't be used against him.

Cruel and arrogant. Whatever else he might be, Thanos is those things as well.

Well, the person Thanos lies the most to is himself.

I've given it some thought, and I've concluded that there were only two dwarves to begin with.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

Going by his own logic, he probably left Eitri alive out of a sense of mercy and sympathy. Like, he planned to kill all the dwarves, but suddenly his conscience started rattling the bars of its cage to alert him that what he was doing was fucked up, so he left one of them alive as a worthless token of goodwill.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 10th 2018 at 2:36:45 AM

If he meant it as a token of goodwill, he wouldn't have destroyed his hands.

Thanos can be petty, and that's not the only time he is.

Its stated that there were 300 dwarves before Thanos showed up.

Edited by ArthurEld on Dec 10th 2018 at 4:41:59 AM

Nope, neither one is true. Eitri himself says: "Three hundred dwarves lived on this ring. If I thought I did what he asked, they'd be safe. I made what he wanted. A device capable of harnessing the power of the stones. And he killed everyone anyway, all except me. 'Your life is yours,' he said. 'But your hands... your hands are mine alone.'"

So he killed all the Dwarves except for Eitri and then crippled Eitri's hands, because he didn't want him making anymore weapons. Which isn't mercy, it's Cruel Mercy.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 10th 2018 at 1:43:11 AM

Let's not forget that Thanos made a deal with Ronan to destroy all of the Xandarians for him in exchange for the delivery of the Power Stone.

Unless Thanos was lying, and he was never going to honor Ronan's request. That'd be kind of shitshow to see. Thanos kills only half the Xandarians and Ronan's pissed because he didn't kill all of them, leading to his betrayal anyway.

I think he didn't have any respect for Eitri because he just followed his orders. So he showed him what he thinks about traitors.

In any case, Thanos isn't merciful, no matter what he tells himself.

Eitri was speaking in hyperbole.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

Eitri's just really bad at counting. 2, 300, same difference, right?

That's not how hyperbole works. Saying "There were a great many dwarves" when there weren't might be hyperbole; actually stating the exact number of dwarves is not hyperbole.

Eitri wasn’t lying. Thor would’ve absolutely known that there used to be a lot of dwarves living there.

This man gets it.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

Uh, I mean, oh dip, numbers, how do they work?

I feel Thannos pity and sympathy come less for is motivies but more of presentation, Thannos is aside of Zemo one of the few villian who never really up in anger, arrgoance or megalomania living to is action to speak for himself.

But yeah im not buying "is not the awfull of is action what it matter but but the poor guy really belive him" really feel it put is feeling over the results, What I always got about Thannos is he have a very "titan got it coming" implication because they didnt listen to him...

Which make him tony stark, just purple.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

A villain who's complex but still undeniably evil really tends to stir people up, huh?

Also, Thanos was clearly using Exact Words with his deal with Eitri: the latter thought if he did what Thanos wanted, he would spare all of the dwarves. At no point Eitri says "he told me if I did what he wanted".

There's also a dash of pragmatism to the whole thing: if the dwarves created something as powerful as the Infinity Gauntlet, they could create something even stronger and give it to someone that would antagonize him. Which is, well, exactly what happened.

Talk about Prophecy Twist. The Greek Tragedy parallels yet rages on.

As for "half the dwarves", Thanos wants to wipe out half of the total population. There were only 300 dwarves in Nidavellir, the rest were in whatever realm they inhabit, which is likely under the protection of Asgard. Well, was.

Last but not least, saying Thanos is racist implies his crusade against life is motivated by some measure of disdain for non-Titan species ("specism" is the technically the correct term, but I'm not that much of a pedant). The confusion is, however, understandable, for not once in history was a genocide ever motivated by anything other than a desire to wipe out "inferiors" or "undesirables".

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 10th 2018 at 8:35:44 AM

Okay I feel like like that second paragraph is just wrong.

Well debates about Thanos have gotten intense, you are not wrong that villains like him tend to stir feelings.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 10th 2018 at 3:39:24 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

I think that what Thannos goal is what rob of is complexity: is dificult to create a universal genocide and yet to think he is complex because he got issue come as....trying to hard.

When it come to complex villian I will put ether Ego(even when he is such a douche) and Killmonger, Zemo is overated and Thanos come to me as too much angst about him.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Serious congrats to BP's nominations. It's an important movie and I'm glad it's getting recognition.

But...I'm honestly surprised that Black Panther got nominated for best visual effects. Some of it was really good, but a lot of it was actually bad, especial during T'Challa and Erik's fight when they're both in the panther suits. Some of that was straight up video game looking to me, which sucks because it's such a big moment in the film. Yikes.

Thanos dfinitely deserves that win imo. He's one of the best CG creations I've seen in a while. I mean, he's so well rendered that I forgot he was fake while watching the movie, which is quite impressive.

"In 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important."

I do not see how it robs him of any complexity.

Honestly it just sounds like a you problem especially since you called Zemo overrated.

Never use that word, overrated has no meaning.

Its in the same dark endless void that lies alongside Mary Sue & SJW. Buzzwords people like to throw around a lot that's basically shorthand for personally disliking something & nothing more.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

I have strong feelings about the Climax of BP, but I'm currently on mobile so I'll save it for later.

I want to add the word "edgy" to that list. "Overhyped", thankfully, has yet to enter the list of words stripped of all meaning thanks to Internet overuse.

Ah, "epic" and "pretentious", I miss you guys so much.

Thank you, I though I was the only who feel otherwise.

Ok let me exlain: I dont feel Zemo is impresive as it show, no in motive(On the other hand, it feel...intersting how zemo just want revenge for is family but not sokovia), but in how he made the avenger fight against each other, with Thannos is really hard to make sympathic consider he genocide half of the universe.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"