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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#89326: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:14:13 PM

I think if Marvel incorporates the X-Men into their universe I get the distinct sense they'd try to go a different route than the Bryan Singer films. One possible solution would be to try something akin to what they did with the Avengers and do several solo films for the X-Men (Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, e.t.c) before assembling them onto a single team. Another route would be to make a X-Men movie without Wolverine but heavily tease his arrival (and probably have a post-credits scene featuring him).

Marvel has options.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#89327: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:27:25 PM

[up][up]Like him dying at the end of Logan?

Edited by AlleyOop on Sep 20th 2018 at 6:31:08 AM

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#89328: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:37:42 PM

Ehh unlike Logan I'm not sure X-Men characters are capable of holding up their own movies.

Mileena Madness
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#89329: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:39:35 PM

Personally I think they should start by introducing characters and then work towards addressing the question of what mutants and the X-Men are like in this setting organically.

Really I just want a Storm MCU movie.

MrHellboy The Spectre Monk from The Twilight Zone Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Spectre Monk
#89330: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:40:16 PM

Since it appears my questions are too long and complicated that no one wants to answer them, is there a better place for me to ask them?

I guess, after a night of pillaging and raping, a Viking wants a little something to go with his cocoa.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#89331: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:40:43 PM

Thor & Storm should hook up. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#89332: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:54:48 PM

Bring on the biracial thunder babies![tup]

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#89333: Sep 20th 2018 at 4:22:10 PM

Storm x Panther

Mileena Madness
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#89334: Sep 20th 2018 at 4:49:01 PM

Not saying that they shouldn't adapt a story just because it's bad (it has shown good results), but that particular plotline was, like most of Civil War era stuff, bad.

As in really bad.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#89335: Sep 20th 2018 at 5:14:17 PM

I don't get why people say the X-Men wouldn't fit in the MCU. In almost every version of the franchise, it's established that, while mutants have been around since ancient times, it's only recently that they've begun appearing in large enough numbers to make keeping their existence a secret impossible (as far as I'm aware, it's still canon in Marvel Comics that atom bomb tests releasing radiation into the atmosphere kickstarted the mutant population boom). The MCU could simply have mutants reach that population tipping point now.

CommanderAce Commander Thor from Planet Earth, United States Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Commander Thor
#89336: Sep 20th 2018 at 5:18:00 PM

I think it might more be a case of people wishing they were put in earlier. Given we're several films in and the Infinity War films are major status quo changers, that'll mean they won't get to interact with several of the heroes potentially. Plus, regardless of the justification, there will be some people who won't buy the reasoning for the X-Men and all their characters not showing up until now.

Power of Thor!
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#89337: Sep 20th 2018 at 5:18:22 PM

Wasn't the X-gene the result of the Celestials screwing around with cavemen?

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#89339: Sep 20th 2018 at 5:24:03 PM

Could've sworn that was backported to yhe mainline franchises...

But anyway, now that I brought up how Civil War, what are some storyline/characters you want to see redeemed in the Big Screen?

My picks are The Clone Saga and Ironheart, both of which had tons of potential brought down by shitty writing.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#89340: Sep 20th 2018 at 5:47:07 PM

Not saying that they shouldn't adapt a story just because it's bad (it has shown good results), but that particular plotline was, like most of Civil War era stuff, bad.

As in really bad.

I've grown a lot more fond of the Storm-Panther pairing since Te-Nisi Coates had Storm come back for A Nation Under Our Feet. Her appearance is amazing.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#89341: Sep 20th 2018 at 6:04:10 PM

~Mr Hellboy Your questions really aren't that long or complicated, it's just that this is a very general thread where people talk about everything MCU related. We have talked about Guardians 3 in the past, and right now we're talking about X-Men.

I still want a Silverclaw movie at some point. She's got a really cool power-set, she's a demi-god, she's got a potentially very interesting origin story, and she would add some much-needed diversity to the MCU, as a woman from South America.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#89342: Sep 20th 2018 at 6:44:02 PM

At the very least X Men won't have to wait till 2018 for cosmic stuff in movies.

Mileena Madness
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#89343: Sep 20th 2018 at 6:48:39 PM

[up][up]Sounds lika a interesting character, but I was asking more of characters that people think are bad and thr MCU has a chance of fixing.

Also, where is Silverclaw from, X-Men?

[up][up][up]Huh, didn't know, I stopped following comics a while ago, I only tead trade paperbacks nowadays, preferebly the really old stuff.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 20th 2018 at 10:49:51 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#89344: Sep 20th 2018 at 6:57:07 PM

Silverclaw was from the late 90s Avengers.

ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#89345: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:27:12 PM

Speaking of X-Men: Legion and Gifted are already co-owned by Disney/Marvel. The Legion episode called “What Could Have Been” explored alternate realities of the multiverse. There were talks of an Exiles TV shows and Gifted features members of that team.

So do you think we will see a crossover with other Marvel shows?

Edited by ManOfSin on Sep 20th 2018 at 10:26:57 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#89346: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:30:59 PM

The issue with bringing in Storm/Panther is that T’Challa’s already in a relationship with Nakia.

So your gonna have to end one good relationship to start it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#89347: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:32:26 PM

Hell, Silverclaw isn't just "from" South America, she's native to a tribe from South America! That's a very unique perspective!

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#89348: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:34:56 PM

No one likes Storm/Panther anyway.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#89349: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:41:30 PM

If they do Silverclaw I want her still to have been sponsored by Jarvis somehow

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#89350: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:44:06 PM

I could see Vision watching TV sometime in-between Age of Ultron and Civil War and deciding to sponsor her out of the kindness of his heart and as an experiment in his humanity.


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