DEATH BATTLE

If Eric Cartman were to appear in an episode. Who should his opponent be? I was thinking Bowser Jr. could work as both are spoiled brats who both have single parents and are the trope Kids Are Cruel incarnate (Cartman feeding a kid his parents, Bowser Jr. framing Mario)

However it’d likely be a stomp in Junior’s favor due to the stuff he has (Megahammer, Clown Car, etc.). I could see an ending where Bowser Jr. horrified at actually killing Cartman with the kids from South Park celebrating the fact that Cartman died to not care about how traumatized Bowser Jr is about it.

Cartman could also go up against Stewie who also fits the whole Kids Are Cruel trope, though Stewie would still stomp him due to being smarter and having better gear than Cartman.

I really don't see Cartman appearing in a Death Battle. The only times he was capable of fighting someone was in the video games and in the movie when he had the malfunctioning V-Chip. In the show, Cartman's completely pathetic when he gets into a fight.

But in the games, he manages to help defeat a racist legit Eldritch horror.

Yes but that was only because it was deathly allergic to white meat.

At the end of the day, Cartman is just a child. A horrible, horrible child.

Due to circumstances, Sam had to step up and write the episode because they had no one else available.

• "How do we suggest things other than 1v1 fights through the form?"^Answer Battle Royales and Team Battles are difficult, and doing it might mean less episodes across the year. Right now we're striving to make more. Best way is to talk about it publicly rather than trying to submit it in the form. If conversation is going, we'll try and see it.
• "On another note, if you want to get into the nitty gritty about nerd stuff. There are Death Battle community discords if you want to check them out."
• "Shouldn't She-Ra have won because of scaling to He-Man, who is superior to Superman?"^Answer He-Man mainly wins against Superman because his powers are magic-based, but Wonder Woman has no weakness to magic.
• "You messed up the moon feat, Eternia and Eternia orbit each other, so the moon must be smaller!"^Answer They orbit the same sun in the same path, not each other. Eternia has 2 small moons, Etheria has one large moon. There's a bit of assumption to it, but we have to assume the size is at least similar to ours.
• "Why didn't you use reboot She-Ra?"^Answer We love the reboot, but Reboot She-Ra is just a different character. Her powers work different than the 80's version, and there's just too many differences between the characters to try and composite them.
• "Why did you ignore Starseed? It would make He-Man and She-Ra multiversal!"^Answer This feat technically happened after writing all this. It's not as clear-cut. It can threaten Creation, He-Man didn't destroy the Starseed, Adam did. It's hard to say that He-Man has that kind of power. Wonder Woman also has a matching feat of destroying a multiversal.
• "Would Wonder Woman be stronger than She-Ra without the bracelets?"^Answer We really can't say. If WW won without the bracelets, then it would be a shaky verdict, but there are other factors that lead to her victory. We have to judge from what we explicitly see from her character.

Obviously next CDB is Mulan vs. Lucina.

Err... FlutterFire? I already 'd you with the video.

Edited by Arawn999 on Jun 5th 2020 at 12:19:06 PM

Yes, but they actually provided information about the questions and answers so they get to live and you get the noose.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jun 5th 2020 at 12:22:34 PM

So Cartman versus Chara?

Chara runs up to him and stabs him in the heart in a single fluid motion.

Weird point about that: Chara and the protagonist both have DETERMINATION, which means they get to save-scum as many times as they want if things goes tits-up. Which makes it hard to declare a death for them.

Clearly Frisk/Chara should fight Cirno: The only thing stopping her from constantly coming back to fight is her motivation. Seriously, her solo game has a motivation meter instead of life counter.

They do both exist in bullet hell land.

Though that depends.

Would Chara's ability to SAVE still work if they were frozen into a state of absolute zero and thus, they wouldn't be able to think?

I know Touhou powers are vaguely-defined conceptual bullfart but is that just Cirno being that powerful of an ice fairy or is it that her actual power is removing all temperature from objects to flash freeze them Captain Cold-style?

The era in South Park's history where Cartman was like this uber-effective evil mastermind who could own anyone if they pissed him off enough has passed, so I wouldn't want him to be in Death Battle.

Plus they've pretty solidly depicted Cartman as a wimp who blusters more than he is capable of backing up - physically speaking - except in the video games, so he wouldn't be good fit for Death Battle anyway.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 5th 2020 at 4:55:34 AM

He did fight that little person that one time.

Its more implied potential by other characters than something she's actually done cause like, y'know, quirky bullet hell game without many consequences.

Plus you know, Cirno's an idiot.

Worth noting that in Undertale, the ability to SAVE belongs only to the being with the highest Determination. Determination is literally just that: "The will to keep living. The resolve to change fate." All humans and even some rare monsters have Determination.

Flowey explains this. Before Frisk arrived in the Underworld, Flowey could Save Scum. But because of Frisk's arrival, he's lost the ability; Frisk now has the power to SAVE instead.

So Chara will only be able to Save Scum if their Determination is stronger than their opponent's Determination.

EDIT: And even then, being able to SAVE doesn't guarantee a win. Flowey was able to claim the power to SAVE from Frisk in the Neutral Route's final battle, and still lost the fight despite Save Scumming mid-battle.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 5th 2020 at 6:33:52 AM

1. If I remember that battle correctly, he managed to get a higher Determination Level by absorbing the rest of the Human Hearts that Asgore got and, well, while you do manage to defeat him in that battle, it isn't entirely up by your hand. You defeat him once, he starts exploding, then goes back to an earlier save at the beginning of the battle and kills you over and over. It isn't until he tries to kill to you with a ring of bullets that the Hearts overthrow his control and make him just another flower.

2. Actually, there is a scenario I'm afraid of: one where Chara can't actually, no matter what, overwhelm their opponent but their opponent doesn't have the determination to shut off his SAVE. So, Chara can't kill them but Chara can't be stopped and won't stop.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jun 5th 2020 at 6:49:31 AM

So like what kinda almost happened with Sans, where Chara kept scumming all the saves, but Sans kept up with the murder with the intent of trapping them in that hallway forever.

Here's a matchup that could make a fun DBX at least:

Boomstick vs Florida Man.

Edited by mlee117379 on Jun 6th 2020 at 11:59:18 AM

https://g1dbteamblogs.blogspot.com/2020/06/death-battle-predictions-mewtwo-vs-zero_6.html

Analysis of Mewtwo vs. Zero is out.

Most agree that Mewtwo wins

Edited by FlutterFire on Jun 6th 2020 at 6:55:04 AM