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Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#277826: Apr 19th 2019 at 3:10:32 AM

I'll agree that there's a degree of cultivated alienation, where people are encouraged to seek constant confirmation of their pre-existing beliefs and reject everything else as incorrect and, more importantly, immoral, with an extreme degree of moral granularity.

Whether this leads to blood depends on the types of sentiments that the thought leaders choose to encourage in their flocks. However, the Left in the US is remarkable in its censorship of any bloodthirst that might arise, even though issues involving abuse and exploitation of the poor and the underprivileged have frequent lethal consequences, both systemically and stochastically. Meanwhile, this is what the Right sound like.

I love the bit where she says the right are the ones with no power.

Tangentially, I'm surprised the "moderate" wing of the Democratic party is complaining about ideological purity, when I struggle to find anything "ideological" or "idealistic" or "pure" about "enact policies that help poor people not die" and "stop shitting on ethnic and sexual minorities for no reason". Maybe I'm so deep inside this rabbit hole I just see this as basic common sense?

Edited by Oruka on Apr 19th 2019 at 3:14:53 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#277827: Apr 19th 2019 at 3:13:49 AM

Gave this Normal 1 guy the boot. People complaining about other people dismissing them have no business ranting off without evidence.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#277828: Apr 19th 2019 at 3:14:37 AM

I can tell you're upset, and assuming you're arguing in good faith... well, I'm afraid that's just not how things look from where I stand. Dehumanization targeted at people of color, women, and other minorities is ingrained because it's part of what the US was built upon - literally built on the backs of slaves, for one thing, and on the sacred lands and over the corpses of native people.

I'll also second what Euodiachloris said. Coming in swinging and threatening violence isn't going to help you or anyone, it's just going to get you thumped. I myself don't have the time, energy, or qualifications to lay everything out in as much detail as it should be laid out, but if you're here to ask in good faith, maybe stick around and lurk a while. You might find your answer or you might not, but it's probably better than ranting.

^Oh. Whoops.

Edited by RedSavant on Apr 19th 2019 at 6:14:57 AM

It's been fun.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#277829: Apr 19th 2019 at 3:17:49 AM

Tangentially, I'm surprised the "moderate" wing of the Democratic party is complaining about ideological purity, when I struggle to find anything "ideological" or "idealistic" or "pure" about "enact policies that help poor people not die" and "stop shitting on ethnic and sexual minorities for no reason". Maybe I'm so deep inside this rabbit hole I just see this as basic common sense?

They aren't complaining about "ideological purity". They're prioritizing holding on to the seat majority they just won in 2018.

The one that involved a lot of "moderate" Democratic candidates flipping traditionally Red districts.

Honestly, the media is exaggerating the internal disagreements and debates within the Democratic Party. Probably because people eat up that kind of narrative.

Edited by M84 on Apr 19th 2019 at 6:22:45 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#277831: Apr 19th 2019 at 3:55:05 AM

Rightwing militia groups. As disgusting and predictable as ever.

And wait for this administration to bend over backwards defending them.

Edited by M84 on Apr 19th 2019 at 6:55:35 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#277832: Apr 19th 2019 at 4:04:11 AM

[up][up] In a Hispanic majority state that literally has Mexico in it's name, and use to belong to the other Mexico...

Edited by CookingCat on Apr 19th 2019 at 4:11:13 AM

PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#277833: Apr 19th 2019 at 4:15:17 AM

“We’re just here to support the Border Patrol and show the public the reality of the border.”

By kidnapping innocent people. Sure. Okay.

TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#277835: Apr 19th 2019 at 5:01:01 AM

[up] Some right-wing nut going on about Democrats dehumanizing them.

Edited by CookingCat on Apr 19th 2019 at 5:01:44 AM

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#277836: Apr 19th 2019 at 5:09:24 AM

The worst part with that militia is that what they’re doing isn’t even really illegal in New Mexico. That state has very loose citizens arrest laws, because of course it does, so they can’t even be charged with false imprisonment.

They should have sent a poet.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#277837: Apr 19th 2019 at 6:26:10 AM

raising a militia should be automatic treason but for that annoying amendment that gives people the right to bear arms

-shakes head-

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#277838: Apr 19th 2019 at 6:40:19 AM

Trump should be happy, since his Complete and Total EXONERATION....

Anything the Russians did concerning the 2016 Election was done while Obama was President. He was told about it and did nothing! Most importantly, the vote was not affected.
Statements are made about me by certain people in the Crazy Mueller Report, in itself written by 18 Angry Democrat Trump Haters, which are fabricated & totally untrue. Watch out for people that take so-called “notes,” when the notes never existed until needed. Because I never.......agreed to testify, it was not necessary for me to respond to statements made in the “Report” about me, some of which are total bullshit & only given to make the other person look good (or me to look bad). This was an Illegally Started Hoax that never should have happened, a... note 

I guess not.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#277839: Apr 19th 2019 at 6:43:21 AM

So guess who’s back, backs again!

Roy More is leading the Republican primary pack for the Alabama 2020 senate race.[1]

Now this is one poll and More seems to be costing on his high name recognition from being the candidate last time, still though...

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#277840: Apr 19th 2019 at 6:45:14 AM

[up][up][up] Most states actually already have anti-militia laws. They’re just somewhat difficult to enforce.

They should have sent a poet.
Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#277841: Apr 19th 2019 at 6:46:54 AM

[up][up] What the hell, Alabama.

i. hear. a. sound.
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#277842: Apr 19th 2019 at 6:47:19 AM

[up][up][up] NO!

This country...I shouldn't be surprised the Republicans are running the most abhorrent candidate that they could find, but somehow I still am. Disgusted, but still surprised?

Edited by AzurePaladin on Apr 19th 2019 at 9:47:35 AM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#277843: Apr 19th 2019 at 6:53:22 AM

An armed militia, the United Constitutional Patriots, is detaining families of migrants in the New Mexico desert. “We cannot allow racist and armed vigilantes to kidnap and detain people seeking asylum,” says the ACLU.

I’ll just be over here screaming what the fuck, Jesus Christ. That’s fucking kidnapping at gunpoint.

To borrow from M84: disgusted, not surprised.

This is what Trump's been working on. This, not the wall, is the magnum opus of his Presidency. It's the reason he's barred the FBI from investigating right-wing extremism. It's why he chants hate rhetoric at all his rallies. It's why he continued holding campaign rallies even after he became President. This is the goal.

Trump's Presidency has a limited number of years, even if he wins re-election. He can't be President forever. But Grand Wizard of the Combined Right-Wing Extremist Militias of the United States? That doesn't have term limits.

Trump dreams of a world where he can say on Twitter, "We need to get these people." And then millions of private American citizens will grab their guns, go out, and get those people. While the law officers all happen to be looking the other way.

He's been building this role for himself as Mafia Don of Mob Rule for years, since as far back as when he suggested at a Trump rally that his people should shoot Hillary Clinton. We've just hit the point where they're starting to respond.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 19th 2019 at 7:56:45 AM

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Oruka Since: Dec, 2018
#277844: Apr 19th 2019 at 7:16:44 AM

raising a militia should be automatic treason but for that annoying amendment that gives people the right to bear arms

Mobsters also bear arms, they don't get to call it a Constitutional Right. This is a criminal conspiracy to commit very obvious, very public crimes. You want to join a "Well-Regulated Militia", that's what the State and National Guards are.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#277846: Apr 19th 2019 at 7:31:17 AM

So guess who’s back, backs again!

Roy More is leading the Republican primary pack for the Alabama 2020 senate race.[1]

Now this is one poll and More seems to be costing on his high name recognition from being the candidate last time, still though...

Go away, you horrid man.

Edited by speedyboris on Apr 19th 2019 at 9:31:32 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#277847: Apr 19th 2019 at 7:38:26 AM

Trump's age will catch up to him.

He needs a memento mori in the classical sense.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#277848: Apr 19th 2019 at 7:43:03 AM

It is indeed true that the immense damage Trump has done to this nation and the globe will far outlive him.

This fact is small comfort.

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TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#277849: Apr 19th 2019 at 7:52:08 AM

I think he's going to be the only person on whom a Damnatio Memoriae might seem acceptable.

Then again, probably not - because keeping memory of him and his regime would serve as a reminder to not do it again.

I hold the secrets of the machine.
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#277850: Apr 19th 2019 at 8:04:24 AM

Joe Biden has a planned presidential announcement next week. I want to get out of my system the scenario in which voters shudder at Biden's misconduct and progressives stay home, giving Trump another term. Just so I can call it on the very slim chance it happens.

Life is unfair...

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