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M84 'Til all are one from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
'Til all are one
Feb 11th 2019 at 4:09:27 AM

And here's the Washington Post analysis of the study that was linked in that article for reference.

Wealth concentration returning to ‘levels last seen during the Roaring Twenties,’ according to new research

Which as John Oliver noted in an episode from a while back, is just a tad ominous, considering what followed the Twenties.

Edited by M84 on Feb 11th 2019 at 8:10:38 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
BearyScary from A Planet That Looks Like It Has Chameleons Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
HailMuffins Ice Bitch Queen from Pigging out at Mc Donalds Relationship Status: Californicating
Ice Bitch Queen
Feb 11th 2019 at 4:21:32 AM

The new tens' been a repeat of the pre-WWII era for a while now: rise of fascist political leaders, increase in racial hatred and intolerace, the works.

Not that that isn't concerning, but I don't find it particularly surprising, eithet.

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Ultimatum ◕ ◡ ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
◕ ◡ ◕ Disasturbator
Feb 11th 2019 at 6:03:47 AM

While history does repeat itself,so you'll probably get a recession but it won't be anywhere near as bad as the 20's boom and bust depression

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Feb 11th 2019 at 6:31:07 AM

Polls show Virginians are divided on Ralph Northam. The jury’s still out on Justin Fairfax.

The thing that caught my eye is Roughly 58 percent of African Americans polled said Northam should remain in office, compared to 46 percent of whites who said the same.

For some reason I was expecting that...

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Geronimo!
Feb 11th 2019 at 6:40:25 AM

Here's my question about the poll: does it distinguish between Republicans and Democrats? I would expect a substantial portion of Republicans to answer "yes" to any question about whether a Democratic politician should leave office, regardless of the reason, and obviously more whites than blacks are Republicans.

Much more meaningful would be the ratio of white Democrats to black Democrats who still support him. The article doesn't seem to mention this, although I didn't delve deeply into it.

Edited by Fighteer on Feb 11th 2019 at 9:48:56 AM

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Feb 11th 2019 at 6:53:57 AM

This poll has more. Seems like partisanship is indeed the dominating factor, although I notice that numerically his support among African Americans is stronger than among Democrats.

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Geronimo!
Feb 11th 2019 at 6:56:15 AM

The Post's paywall won't let me read that, unfortunately.

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Feb 11th 2019 at 7:05:12 AM

The usual 538 article on presidential candidates, this time on Amy Klobuchar. She is one of my favourites, coming from a Midwestern state, strongly overperformed in elections multiple times and has a pragmatic, relatable personality from what I've seen.

Only problem is her supposed treatment of staff members, but it's unclear how much of that is from her being a tough boss or actual mistreatment; relatively small baggage anyway.

Life is unfair...
M84 'Til all are one from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
'Til all are one
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:08:09 AM

[up]If it's actual mistreatment, that's a problem.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:08:19 AM

It says that most Democrats want Northam to stay and most Republicans want him to go. And that his support among African Americans is stronger than among Democrats in general but only by few percent.

I am thinking that this is yet again mostly a matter of partisanship, but the deviation between Democrats vs. African Americans might have a different reason. Perhaps whites care more about the optics (if you want to be negative: virtue signaling) while African Americans are more interested in policy matters (such as Northam continuing his predecessor's project to restore felons' voting rights, which is a rsce issue as black people disproportionately end up in jail)?

M84 'Til all are one from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
'Til all are one
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:09:06 AM

I think a lot of black people in Virginia might think that Northam is the best they are going to get in Virginia.

Which if true is kind of sad.

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Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:10:29 AM

There may be a sense among black voters that if you're going to have a white guy in the governor's office, you can't afford to be too picky given the state's history. Better someone that you know is trying to work for you now than someone you know will try to work against you, which is what will inevitably happen if the Republicans regain the office.

[up] Slightly ninjaed.

Edited by Fighteer on Feb 11th 2019 at 10:11:02 AM

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Feb 11th 2019 at 7:13:49 AM

Maybe the black community in the state generally accepted his apology?

My Dragon Ball FighterZ moveset ideas.
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:16:53 AM

Was it mentioned that if he stepped down the black lieutenant governor would step in for the time?

Either way, I'm actually not particular surprised more white people (considering party affiliation or not) want him gone.

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Geronimo!
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:21:46 AM

The lieutenant governor has his own problems, specifically sexual assault claims. The rabbit hole seems to continue indefinitely.

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Feb 11th 2019 at 7:22:16 AM

Huh, did not hear about that.

AzurePaladin The Blue Knight from The Feywild Relationship Status: Mu
The Blue Knight
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:23:57 AM

[up] And the Attorney General also did blackface. Something's rotten in the state of Virginia, it seems. This is not to say that any other part of the country is necessarily better, but it is interesting to note.

She/Her Pronouns
sgamer82 from Meridian, ID
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:25:03 AM

The Attorney General also offered up his own past blackface shenanigans. Though he did it and apologized on his own initiative.

Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Feb 11th 2019 at 7:28:46 AM

Personally, I'd prefer if Northam and Fairfax resign and the Attorney General stay if the public wants him to.

But of course, considering the data I think it's clear that Northam isn't leaving, which is offensive but acceptable. In situations like this, it's the opinions of African-Americans that should be supreme as a rule, and they have spoken.

"Progress is a nice word. But change is its motivator. And change has its enemies." -Robert Kennedy
MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
Feb 11th 2019 at 10:14:31 AM

I honestly did not expect so much African-American support for Northam in spite of his scandal. What are his odds of staying in office right now?

@Physical Stamina:

Apparently he made a video about that Crunchyroll original series (something with Spice in the name) whining about feminism (because I guess it stars women with agency who aren't just there to be moeblob damsels?), so I'm gonna say no.
I just watched this video you're talking about, and... well, while it's not perfect, I wouldn't call it "whining about feminism" so much as him pointing out inconsistencies in the trailer note , criticizing the Anvilicious nature of the trailer itself (it's the first one, too), and also showing that said trailer was so badly received on Youtube that the creators disabled both the comments and the like/dislike feature (the provided screenshot showed a net negative number). He then goes on to say that just because this first trailer is bad doesn't necessarily mean that the show itself will turn out to be bad, it's just that it's not making a good first impression... and admits that maybe he's wrong about the trailer being bad anyway.

I am quite perturbed by him throwing around the "SJW" label in an obviously negative way, but who's to say that he's indeed misusing it to refer to all feminists and the like? Hell, I probably (though not necessarily) would've used "SJW" to label all Moral Guardians and any other people or shows that tout Anvilicious messages if I had been the sort to do Youtube videos like he and many other people do.

Edited by MarqFJA on Feb 11th 2019 at 9:15:31 PM

When we are crushing the black hearts of our oppressors, we will find our hands blackened.
AzurePaladin The Blue Knight from The Feywild Relationship Status: Mu
The Blue Knight
Feb 11th 2019 at 10:16:14 AM

Marq, those are dogwhistles. He's using dogwhistles. And I honestly don't trust anyone who throws around 'SJW' negatively to tell anyone what is and isn't acceptable diversity.

Also, I feel as if this belongs in another thread? Politics in Media, perhaps?

Edited by AzurePaladin on Feb 11th 2019 at 1:17:36 PM

She/Her Pronouns
Feb 11th 2019 at 10:23:39 AM

As this video rightly points out, SJ Ws are in a way a conspiracy theory. Meaning the Anti-SJW movement has build a Feindbild for itself which they can use as an excuse to vent their racism and sexism, under the guise of being "rational".

Just to get an idea how far removed Sargon and consorts are from being rational.

MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
Feb 11th 2019 at 10:32:13 AM

Marq, those are dogwhistles. He's using dogwhistles.
And here lies a logical problem: Just because such terms are most frequently used as dogwhistles to disguise actual bigotry under a veneer of respectability doesn't necessarily mean that every case of random John or Jane Doe on the street using the term is also a case of dogwhistling. Because, you know, they might actually be using them to mean something that is only tangentially similar to what the actual dog-whistlers mean. After all, dog-whistles are code words; the concept itself relies on only the genuinely bigoted people being aware of what it actually stands for, while also banking on the visible meaning to attract more numerous masses of unwitting non-bigoted people to support what looks like a reasonable cause to them.

And I honestly don't trust anyone who throws around 'SJW' negatively to tell anyone what is and isn't acceptable diversity.
Even if this someone is using it to denote fringe extremists like radical feminists?

Also, I feel as if this belongs in another thread? Politics in Media, perhaps?
Perhaps... which ironically reminds me that I completely forgot to follow up on the discussion that I had started there a few weeks ago (good thing I bookmarked one of my posts to make sure I don't lose track of it, since the thread was moving so fast and mine wasn't the only topic being discussed).

As this video rightly points out, SJ Ws are in a way a conspiracy theory. Meaning the Anti-SJW movement has build a Feindbild for itself which they can use as an excuse to vent their racism and sexism, under the guise of being "rational".
This of course depends on on assuming that everyone who uses "SJW" in a negative way form a monolithic group with little to no variability in how they use the term. I hope you can clearly see the logical fallacy in that.

Edited by MarqFJA on Feb 11th 2019 at 9:34:07 PM

When we are crushing the black hearts of our oppressors, we will find our hands blackened.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Feb 11th 2019 at 10:34:03 AM

This is exactly how he gets you. By seeming very reasonable and agreeable on the surface and making these arguments.

Don't fall for it, he's coming from a place of malice and trying to trick you.

Oh really when?

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