Hey everyone! So, my New Years Resolution for 2019 was to post at least three chapters of Reflecting Balance this year. While I had technically fullfilled that goal if you count the Special Episode, I wanted to get at least one more chapter in before the end of the year.

So, yes! Chapter 58 of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Reflecting Balance is now up!

You can read it here, here or here.

Gym Challenge I agree with Keys idea.

Silvally One per author

Gigamax I agree with Bitter on this as well.

Gym Challenge: I, too, agree with Keys' idea.

Silvally: One per author sounds fair.

Make My Monster Grow!: I, too, agree with Bitter on this.

Question About Gigantamax

I agree with Bitter in regards to the consistency policy regarding Gigantamax, but I have a question. Is it at all possible for Pokémon that are capable of Gigantamaxing to develop a Gigantamax Factor through exposure to the energy of Wishing Stars and Pokémon Dens?

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Gym Challenge, Gigantamax (both General and Ian's): I'll agree with the consensus. My sibs won't let me play SwSh yet so I dunno the deets gameplay-wise.

Silvally: Limit of one per player Unova is Zekrom.

Edited by MasterJayAM on Dec 31st 2019 at 9:28:01 PM

Okay so so far the issues that seem to have been settled on:

Leauge Endorsements

Yeah the J-Team has plenty of friends in high places, they can probably hand out endorsements like candy.

Gigantimax

Seems people are cool with mons just... having it in the way of Shininess as long as it's not over-saturated or inconsistent, due to it not being much of a power increase

Type: Null

Seems people are cool with "one per player with room for exceptions"

The Legendaries

I'll get to that.

THE REST

Stuff that still needs to be figured out/doesn't have much of a consensus yet:

-How to avoid the tournament arc (there were a lot of suggestions here but not much consistency maybe?)

-The issue of Bede and Marnie vs. Opal and Piers

-Version exclusive Gym leaders

Okay, back to the Legendaries...

DEMOCRACY

The poll results are in!

Zacian results◊

Zamazenta results◊

Eternatus results◊

We got a good turnout with a variety of votes, so thank you for voting!

Edited by Umbramatic on Jan 1st 2020 at 6:17:58 AM

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Re: Gym Challenge and Avoidance of a Tournament Arc

Well since my initial idea has met with a more acceptance than I thought, I'll spell it out in more detail here.

For the Exhibition Gym Challenge, the leaders would be set, but we get to fight all the major characters.

Marnie and Bede would take over for there predecessors. While Opal and Piers would be members of the "E4".

But for the version exclusives, one would occupy the gym while the other would be a member of the "E4". So we would need to vote which of the exclusives are assigned to what.

Gym 1: Milo
Gym 2: Nessa
Gym 3: Kabu
Gym 4: Bea or Allister(Vote required)
Gym 5: Bede
Gym 6: Gordie or Melony (Vote required)
Gym 7: Marnie
Gym 8: Raihan

"The Elite Four"
1: Bea or Allister (Vote required)
2: Gordie or Melony (Vote required)
3: Opal
4: Piers
"Champion": Leon

The reason And so not to interfere with the normal Gym Challenge, Leon would be the "Champion" for the J-team.

This way the actual champion doesn't accidentally get beaten and their national image undermined (and risk causing a further dip in national morale) but the J-Team members still get the prestige that they deserve for beating league.

Edited by keys2tkingdom on Jan 1st 2020 at 6:03:30 AM

I mostly like Keys's idea, although I think it'd probably be better to just have the version-exclusives be chosen on a player by player basis; whichever one is a gym leader for one player might be an E4 member for another, and their counterparts switch accordingly per player; e.g. Deziree might face Bea as a Gym Leader and Alister as an E4, while the opposite might be true for e.g. Scarlette.

Bitter’s Suggestion for Amendment

This is a valid suggestion for this idea, and I think it is heavily worth considering.

I like Keys' idea except for two-three things:

-Yeah, like Bitty said I'd prefer people be able to pick between Bea and Allister/Gordie and Melony for their gym challenges.

-I would ALSO prefer the ability for the Champion to be pretty much anybody

I'd honestly like if aside from Opal and Piers you could challenge any two other gym leaders as well.

Edited by Umbramatic on Jan 1st 2020 at 7:36:13 AM

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Ditto Umbra

"Dang that sure is totally poggers my good bitch"

...hmmm

On my end, I'm not entirely certain that we need to stick to an "Elite Four", or a special exhibition to accomodate it—Galar is fairly different in a number of ways, and it seems simple enough to have the trappings of a tournament without having an actual tournament on a meta level.

(Much as the games do, in fact, with the non-protagonist battles held offscreen with the victors announced and fought.)

As I mentioned before, there are two semifinal battles and three final battles, with the latter specifically drawing from the pool of gym leaders. The semifinal battles could be an opportunity for staging battles against any other desired characters (Opal and Piers included), and the final battles could be an opportunity to face the two out of ten gym leaders not challenged on the gym route.

No mind to think. No will to break.

Honestly, I'm glad someone brought up the possibility of treating it totally normally, aside from the obvious champion deal. A tournament arc doesn't have to be Gold Conference 2.0 every time. The postgame seems to indicate that you can arrange a tournament at Wyndon Stadium pretty much at the whims of the challengers' schedules, even if you really only get to see that from the champion's point of view. And even then, it all does seem kind of like the whole system is set for the pace of the challengers, not a rigid timetable.

Also, it does futureproof it, in a way; the J-Team is not always going to be there, even if individual challengers are, and furthermore, the line between who is and isn't J-Team is frequently poorly defined. If a single J-affiliated challenger shows up half a year after the team as a whole has left, I doubt the League is going to go out of their way to make the exception again, realistically speaking.

Edited by BittersweetNSour on Jan 2nd 2020 at 4:11:32 AM

I do like the idea of making it a personalized mini-tournament each time; you can include any tournament members and Champions you want that way. Makes it more intresting.

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Instead of Gold Conference 2.0, we make it Pokemon World Tournament 2.0. Genius.

Edited by BittersweetNSour on Jan 2nd 2020 at 4:14:49 AM

For me to buy this, there NEEDS to be an in-universe rule that prevents any trainer not based in Galar from becoming champion. i.e. One needs to live - or wiling to live - and be in Galar for most if not all year to actually become champion.

This is what always bothered be about how we handled the Alola league since it implied that the last PC that beat the last champion NPC got beaten offscreen by the current Champion NPC. Which made me super uncomfortable if the NPC was not someone your PC would have lost to.

This time, Galar is that problem up to eleven because of how established the Galar League is unlike the Alola League at that the Champion seat wouldn't be as hotly contested because there are more solid pillars keeping the league from being shaken up every few days.

Plus, the Champion seems to be a lot more involved with regional politics than other Regions. Having the Champion change too often sounds like a way to destabilize Galar.

Because of this, my suggestion if we go the way the game does it, in-universe the current Champion picks a representative to face the challenger in the Champion battle. Meaning that it justifies the constantly changing champion battle while also allowing a meaningful victory for our P Cs

It's always been canon that someone who defeats the current Champion of a region is able to choose to take their place, it's just that for the first six generations, no canon PC did, and we maintained the status quo, because it was an unspoken agreement that we can't have our P Cs take their place (later to be actual written word just for the sake of the record). Gen 7 was tricky because the first champion was the canon PC, who we pointedly avoided defining; hence, "hotly contested".

Honestly, now that we have another generation with an established Champion before the canon PC, it would make sense to say that Leon is in the role again because the canon PC is absent for one reason or another, though arrangements could be made so that some other individual stands in the spot if you want a unique final challenge (a la Jacob at the end of the Hoenn League). Leon may not be undefeated anymore, but if anything, that gives us less pressure to take his place after defeating him because it's not as record-breaking as the canon PC's match.

Edited by BittersweetNSour on Jan 2nd 2020 at 8:52:30 AM

RE: Alola League, that was explicitly not the case. It was stated stringently that if a someone beat the current Champion, they could choose to just NOT take the Champion position and leave the current Champion as the position holder, just like how Alder was Champion until Iris took the position.

Edit: Bittie is a faster typer than I am on phone

Edited by DuneTheWanderer on Jan 2nd 2020 at 5:44:53 AM

I'd be fine with Leon still in the "delegated" champion role for Galar Politics (since he seems to have settled into such running the Battle Tower, etc.) but allowing for other people to be the "final boss" of a League challenge. Leon sticks around for sociopolitieconomic stability while still allowing freedom for personalized Champions.

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Okay. Having Leon STILL be around as the default Champion stand-in for societal stability because of "reasons". With him letting another representative act as champion for a match is enough for me not to worry about our characters destabilizing an entire region by doing our usual "Champion Stomp Conga".

Okay so I've been wanting to run a PMD style arc for awhile and I've had two in the back of my mind I would find fun to run. I'll be looking for Co-GMs to help me run them to ensure consistency with previous plot, established themes, and so on as I do want to make these good. I'm also not certain if I'll come back to the other plot if it is not picked so I wanted to get a vote on what people would rather run with.

This post will explain the basics of what I want to do with both, and then at the end there will be a poll for you to chose from.

Alright here we go.

• PMD-A - Sea Dungeon: An Arc with inspiration from one piece, TTYD, Sea of Thieves and other pirate based media, the idea being that the party on the adventure enters this world with a mystic map exploring various islands and pokemon treasures to find the pieces to unlock the ultimate treasures. It will need adjusting to avoid copying the previous TTYD arc but I think it's possible. My end goal is to just have some pirate fun with everyone using pokemon moves and abilities in unique ways to sail a ship.

• PMD-B - Mystery Dungeon Last Light: This Arc is based upon Metro Last Light and would take place in a [Russia] Location set in a winter, things went wrong here upon the 7 Dragons plans and the place has become... different from how other locations look. Humans and Mons live in a vast network of subway and train tunnels, forage and collect what they can while avoiding anomalies and what appear to look like shadow mons. My end goal is to have a semi-horror story following characters as the party sent here explores the tunnels and such, while dealing with recognizable mons as twisted shadow mutant forms of sorts. This arc will require a lot of adjusting and planning and will most certainly require a lot of discussion to make work properly.

Alright, there are my ideas, vote here and let me know what you would rather go for.

EDIT: Poll is closed now, will release final verdict later.

EDIT 2: The polls were 50 50 so I flipped a coin. Metro it is.

Edited by EchoingSilence on Jan 6th 2020 at 10:50:49 AM

Okay so all the Galar mons + regional forms are on the wiki now.

Also I updated this◊

Edited by rmctagg09 on Jan 6th 2020 at 6:09:52 AM

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.

Well it's that time again, since we neglected to do it last year, for the 2018/2019 WAAPT Mon Census, which you can do here.

This is specifically for mons that appeared from 2018 into December 31st 2019, so any that have been introduced this year can go on the 2019/2020 Census whenever I get that one up.

The Rules

• Don't add characters that are not your own, unless specifically requested, to avoid confusion.
• Count mons for whom any of the following applies:
  • They appear in an average or more than average percentage of your posts.
  • They are/were integral to any arc, plot, or subplot since your entry into the RP.
  • They are planned to be or are currently part of some sort of event/appearance in the RP.
  • They are important enough to your character that they warrant notice and representation of the species as a whole.

(For the most part, any PC owned mon would likely count toward one of these, these criteria are more to say 'don't add every NPC you've ever played' than anything)

The final tally will be compiled here and categorized by species and morph.

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Please follow this template when adding to the template:

Name [Current Morph]Gender (Player;PC or NPC, N/A if without a Trainer)

For instance Muddy would be:

Muddy [Swampert]♂ (Tagg;RP!Tagg)

Yes, even if the mon's still at base morph at the time of the census, that morph should be listed. Exceptions would be if the mon is part of a single stage line, but the rest should still be listed.

If the Mon doesn't have a nickname you can do something such as:

X's MonGender (Player, since the trainer's in the name adding them again would be redundant)

Or if they happen to not belong to a Trainer:

MonGender (Player;N/A)

Edited by rmctagg09 on Jan 9th 2020 at 1:06:54 PM

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.

So, for Fuka's Gyarados do I put it into the Magikarp line?

Also can I add Pokemon for a character I'm still developing the profile for or should I wait until I actually get that done first?

Edited by sgamer82 on Jan 8th 2020 at 7:20:35 AM

Pokemon are listed under the base evo for their line so yes Gyarados would be listed as Magikarp. Pokemon that haven't appeared 'on-screen' (in the RP thread) yet shouldn't go on the census.

It's clearly a case of backroom political albumizing.

OK. I've got Fuka's Pokemon added.