Street Fighter Discussion Topic Turbo!

heh, even better than Meta Knight Da Bess

edited 1st Jun '11 5:03:35 PM by Aflac

I started playing Sagat. It's pretty fun to play an easier and more "normal" character after learning Hakan and Vega.

And now suddenly I'm getting hate mail for being a tier whore because Sagat was God-tier in vanilla. :( Either that or I get hate mail for "being a pussy + playing keepaway."

edited 1st Jun '11 5:10:03 PM by Scardoll

Just ignore them. They be salty like that. :|

As long as you're doing more than "TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER!", you're fine.

Actually, now that you mention it, there should totally be DLC that changes all of Sagat's voice commands to his insanely nasally and annoying voice from Super Turbo. I'd buy it.

They should do that for all the characters with older versions.

edited 1st Jun '11 5:13:35 PM by Scardoll

And a patch that gives the characters their VAs from the cartoon. Imagine Bison...

"Ohohohoho! This is delcious!"

And then when he wins...

would that go for "Big Bird" Sonic Boom as well for Guile?

SEY.

^^^^^^* I hated that. I used to play Sagat in Capcom vs SNK 2, so naturally I wanted to play him here, but I got so much hate for it I just decided to say "screw it" and took up Gen instead. Now I barely remember how to play him right.

Come SSFIV, I pledged not to do it again and stuck with Dudley - the only character I could halfway competently use, and enjoy doing so, years ago when I used to play SFIII - despite mild complaining.

Addendum: The next game doesn't need either Vega or Ibuki - instead, we need Geki and his awesome theme.

edited 1st Jun '11 5:43:04 PM by KnownUnknown

I'd like to improve in the game via Arcades, but every time I go, only the 12 hit combo rape players play, and I end up getting discouraged.

Should I just find a different time to play? Or should I ask nicely for pointers etc?

They should just pull a Sure, Why Not? and say that Ibuki is Geki's daughter.

DAT KEN. But yeah, counting all of the shotos here, plus their powered up forms, we have—count 'em— TEN SHOTOS. Really, Capcom, really?

Yeah I know. That does kinda get old fast. Let's see, there's Ryu, Ken, Sean, Akuma, Sakura (who I play as), Dan, Evil Ryu, Oni... umm... Let's see...

Gouken, and Sagat can play suspiciously similar with his Tigershot and Tiger Uppercut.

Sagat and Gouken does not really count.

Well capcom is the only company I can think of who has recycled the same basic character design around 10 times and the characters are still liked. Oh well.

I swear though, playing as Seth online can be very annoying with his tissue paper stamina. I try any mix ups with him and guess what happens 90% of the time? SHORUKEN!

edited 2nd Jun '11 8:32:52 AM by HellmanSabian

Yeah, on second thought, I have to agree with that. At least on Gouken's account.

Just got back from a match against a Gouken player, btw. It first seemed like he was about to perfect me, but when I had only a sliver of health left (seriously, a medium punch would have killed me), I managed to catch him with my Seichusen Godanzuki turn around the match and win!

Victory never, ever tasted this awesome.

edited 2nd Jun '11 8:29:52 AM by Kayeka

Wait, how the hell does Sagat not count as a shoto?

The definition of "Shoto" is Hadouken + Dragon Punch. Gouken I can accept because, unless he has a super/ultra meter, he doesn't have the Dragon Punch which makes shotos so feared.

And Seth counts as well.

edited 2nd Jun '11 8:39:51 AM by KingZeal

But Sagat doesn't have a Hurricane Kick or a variation of it

Bah, he's close enough. The Tiger Knee could maybe be his equivalent of the Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku.

edited 2nd Jun '11 11:27:42 AM by X2X

I don't see him as a shoto just because he's huge. Generally, for me, shotoclones are "Fireball, Shoryuken, and The Mario/Generic gi-wearer"

Okay, apart from the gi, what requirement doesn't Sagat fit?

I'm also starting to realize just how much of a Lamp Shade most of Ken's victory quotes are. "you know all my moves, don't? Why do you keep walking into them?"

A very good question indeed.

The fact he does not have a windmill kick. Also his Tiger Knee is nothing like a Windmill Kick.

edited 22nd Jun '11 6:21:55 AM by KSonik

-peeks in on conversation-
Ah, Sagat.
He's one of the two characters I play as if I can't catch a break.
The other being Juri.
I wouldn't say he's a shoto. Tiger Knee is only similar to Dan's Dankukyaku, and even then only barely. His size is also a factor.

edited 2nd Jun '11 12:31:44 PM by Zeromaeus

In gameplay terms, Sagat's on the line between Shoto and non-Shoto. He doesn't have any real equivalent to the Hurricane Kick, but he has two Dragon Punch style moves. Gouken's a bit less of a shoto, and Oni's a bit more of a Shoto (Seriously, Oni is weird).

Sagat plays fairly differently from the Shotos in that you'll be using a LOT of Standing Heavy Kick with him to keep opponents away. That thing has such nice range...

Tiger Knee is more like a second Dragon Punch. They both have the same input (Just with kick instead of punch), they both can't be used in the air, and they both are a diagonal upward type of move that has invincibility frames and can be used to get out of tricky situation.

Tiger Knee is also totally cooler than Shoryuken. >:L

Also, who here uses Sagat's Rage move?

edited 2nd Jun '11 1:14:12 PM by Scardoll

Isn't Oni just Akuma?

Capcom still didn't admit it, but yes, much in the same way there is Ryu and Evil Ryu.