Trope use is incongruent with trope description: Fail O Suckyname

See title. I've only ever seen it actually used as the logical inversion of Awesome McCoolname, which makes sense, but the trope for some reason seems to only describe Unfortunate Pseudonyms, which I do feel IS a distinct subtrope of Unfortunate Name, but I don't think that Fail O'Suckyname should be what it is called. The question, then, becomes what is the difference between "Fail O'Suckyname" as the logical inverse trope of "Awesome McCoolname", and the Unfortunate Name trope? It kinda feels to me like it'd fall under The Same But More, which leads me to think that perhaps the best solution would be to lump Fail O'Suckyname with Unfortunate Name, and rename the trope currently called Fail O'Suckyname to something like "Unfortunate Pseudonym"

edited 21st Jan '11 2:56:17 AM by Pig_catapult

Looks like Fail O Suckyname is specifically about superhero names. It's a subtrope of Unfortunate Name. If it's being misused, should definitely be renamed, though the best I can come up with at the moment is Unfortunate Name Man.

Yeah, I created this talking about superhero (or villain) names and I've been meaning to do something about the examples that don't fit. The name itself might be a problem, since it sounds like a counterpart to Awesome McCoolname.

Perhaps it could be renamed to something with "Supername" in it, a la Dark Age of Supernames, which is (I guess) effectively a subtrope.

I support displacing the name to what it looks like and renaming the current trope.

Wow, even most of the examples on the actual page are wrong.

This is a dark day for the literate, my friends.

It is. It's a great trope, but there seems to be a lot of confusion over what it is, especially outside the page. The comic book section looks good, but the Anime section is Completely Missing The Point and being first on the page, that's a bad thing.

"Unfortunate Name Man" sounds good enough to me for what the trope's actually describing. So. . . should we make "Unfortunate Name Man", sort the examples from the current "Fail O'Suckyname", and. . . do something with the Fail O'Suckyname namespace? Looking at Unfortunate Name again, it's for names that are. . . unfortunate socially, but not for ones that are just plain bad/bizarre without also fitting the listed criteria for Unfortunate Name. The difference between "Ima Pig" and "Jacuzzi Splot", if you will.

edited 22nd Jan '11 3:04:21 PM by Pig_catapult

Most of them yeah they are completely wrong.

I think Great Saiyaman (This name gets looks even in universe doesnt help that he is a complete parody of superman in highschool) and Seaweed Ambassador might be the only correct examples.

edited 22nd Jan '11 3:43:57 PM by Raso

So, um, what would the proper protocol be for handling this? Does this count as a consensus, since the nine(?) or so people who've posted seem to be relatively in agreement?

Broadening the description is common.

So. . . How'd we go about broadening the definition? O.o;; I mean, there seems to be two distinct tropes here: "Unfortunate Superhero Names" and "Regular Names That Are Not Unfortunate Names But Are Still Bad". There might also be some examples in there that are more properly Unfortunate Names.

Since Unfortunate Name already has a number of bulleted criteria, it should be easy enough to sort out which examples are what, so. . . um, yeah. I'd actually really like to be able to hand this off to someone who knows what they're doing.