Rename: : Measuring The Marigolds

A trope about how people with an overtly scientific outlook may or may not respond well to concepts of beauty. There has to be a better title than an obscure Hans Christian Andersen musical.

No, the title is plenty descriptive even if you've never heard of the Trope Namer.

I like the name. It sounds nice and it was exactly what I expected it to be. Those are pretty much my criteria. I didn't get the trope namer, but really that matters less to me than if I get the trope.

Not familiar with the the namer, but I got the meaning correctly from the name. So, the current name works for me.

Isn't this a pre-existing phrase?

Nicely poetic, pre-existing phrase. Still an opportunity for redirect farming, though.

Science Ruins Beauty. I'm not a fan of the name but I prefer the Exactly What It Says on the Tin names.

Well, Exactly What It Says on the Tin is always good for redirects.

When I ran across this trope before, I was pretty sure I knew what the trope was before I looked at it, and I was right, so it is at least working for me. I'm a scientist; this time when I read the title, I did begin pondering how accurately I could measure the marigolds in various ways with my currently available tools.

edited 3rd Jan '11 7:35:43 AM by MoCellMan

Measuring the Marigolds has alliterative appeal, to be sure, and the advantage of already being the trope's name, but I quite like Unweaving the Rainbow. Measuring the Marigolds, when I first came across it, for some reason made me think of washing up gloves, which raised the interesting question of what 'measuring them' was supposed to signify.

Unweaving the Rainbow sounds like a better title because it has a reference to the alleged deconstruction idea up front. Science Ruins Beauty doesn't quite capture it, somehow - I thought it was mostly about analysing in general, not just science. Could work, though, and I'd be happy to see it up there anyway.

edited 5th Jan '11 11:13:50 AM by BlueChameleon

Oppose changing Unweaving The Rainbow to the main name. It's fine as a redirect, but that's the title of a book with the opposite premise (that scientific understanding can enhance awe at the Universe).

Also, rainbows aren't generally refereed woven in the first place which makes the name make far less sense. If I were to see that title I would assume that it was something about turning intangible things into something physical like string.

Here's the thing: In this thread I've seen no reason given to change the name except "There must be something better".

It doesn't matter whether the song the name is from is obscure, because knowledge of the song is not necessary to understand the name.

I'm not sure how "I thought it was about washing up gloves" is even related — I can't for the life of me figure out that logical leap.

So unless one of the people who wants to rename this can come up with something more substantial than "I like this other one better" I'm going to lock this up.

If the book Unweaving The Rainbow is about the opposite, then I don't even think it is a good redirect. If was not a common phrase before the book, then the book should get the Main namespace, even.

(I realize it is from Keats about Newton, but I don't know if that's the phrase he used, or if the phrase caught on).

edit: looked it up: Unweave a rainbow, as it erewhile made (I like Keats, but I certainly don't know him by heart).

edited 5th Jan '11 7:21:53 PM by MoCellMan

Agreed, the current name really isn't confusing and there's no real argument to rename it.

Yeah, the book does seem to be about the complete opposite trope. It should really be taken off as a redirect and cut so that someone can make a page for the work.

@Madrugada I think the washing up gloves bit comes from a Brand Name Takeover colloquialism common in UK. Being from Australia I only know this because the werewolf in Being Human claimed the vampire didn't "even know what marigolds are!" during a tiff over the housework.

Oh, "Marigold" is a brand of rubber gloves? OK, then, I can at least see the connection.

edited 5th Jan '11 8:45:51 PM by Madrugada

Unrelated and onimportant, but oddly enough I remember the song...from a Sesame Street skit about math.

edited 6th Jan '11 11:02:44 AM by Elle

My first thought- and probably the first thought of a fair few UK readers- was marigolds as in washing up gloves. I say rename, but I can't even begin to think of an alternative. eta: Over Analysing Artistry? Bland and a bit rubbish, but avoids my provincial confusion...

edited 6th Jan '11 1:23:49 PM by Graik

Measuring the Marigolds makes sense to me because it's related to Stopping To Smell The Roses - you're not just enjoying the little things, you're analyzing them to death until they lose their power to enchant, missing the whole point.

I'm not from the UK and I still couldn't figure out what Measuring the Marigolds is. I like Science Ruins Beauty.

So, use that redirect.