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Wasting perfectly good backstories (with a few exceptions, like VI and X-2) of the characters, sometimes not even establishing why the characters are along at all (X).

The fact that people complain about the newer games while they ignore all the flaws in the older games, such as the weird pacing, under-developed characters, and cartoonish villains.

Not saying that IV and VI aren't good games, but they're not perfect.

Also it bothers me that people complain about Nomura's character designs when Amano's were just as silly. Pretty-boys, 80s hair, beads, blue lipstick, capes, and women in even MORE revealing outfits than Nomura has ever designed—and yet people act like Amano can do no wrong while Nomura is the Anti-Christ or something.

Milking games for MOAR MONEY without actually adding anything worthwhile. (By which, yes, I mean the Compilation.)

Going from an RPG to a game where your only job is to hit X.

The recent obsession with having the "main character" be an Idiot Hero who acts as The Watson and The Ishmael in order to give easy excuses for world Infodumps and because, you know, You Suck.

The Battle system rather than being turn based is time based, but still focuses on scrolling through menus.

The fact that a lot of people have an absolute die-hard love for VII for no apparent reason and outright demand that everyone else feel that way too. Also that spin-offs, continuations and the ambiguous remake of VII are being churned out to sate these people despite the fact that this story hit its logical end a very long time ago. Can people please let VII die already like the other ones have?

Long, frequently occurring cutscenes.



They keep bringing out MMORPG's like XI but why don't they remake VII instead?? I'd wanna play VII more than XI or XIV

They keep trying to change this, change that, and they forget what made the games awesome in the first place. They usually invent new leveling systems, or new battle systems that are so off-their-rocker that some people can't even figure them out, or find them such a pain in the butt, or plain don't make sense:

FF 2: Hitting yourself to make yourself stronger so that you can actually survive battle much past the first few areas? Errr, ok.

FF 6: The Esper System left much open for abuse. Who cares if Relm is just a little kid? Enough levelups with a +Strength esper and she hits harder than the knight in shining armor. With a paintbrush.

FF 8: Junction System. Some people liked it, I hated it. Also, gaining levels shouldn't make the game harder.

FFX: The Sphere Grid system. It had its good points, but honestly, it allowed for too many exploits and allowed everyone to be everything all at once.

FFX-2: The dresspheres. Yuck. Given that it is set in the same 'verse as FFX, where there were no dresspheres, leaves This Troper going "What the fuck?"

FF 12: Mostly, I like the gameplay style, but hated the "only one spell at a time". I'm looking at you, Mr. Gilgamesh and your cheap ass dog. Gilgy keeps casting spell after spell after spell while his dog mows you down because you can't cast your own spells.

Male characters that are so distilled as bishounen, that there's absolutely no way to tell what gender they are without being directly informed.

  • This has lots of down votes and I suspect it was written as a joke but it actually happened to me. When the FFXIII trailer hit, Gamespot had a banner on the game's info page that featured nothing but a close-up of Lightning's face. Because of FF's long line of annoying pretty boy male characters, I actually had to go to the forum and ask whether Lightning was male or female. And she still looked more masculine than Vaan.

Utterly generic animesque plots.

I never liked all these revisions with changing names and numbering schemes and adding new weapons and dungeons among other things starting to make me think Final Fantasy is starting to be the Star Wars Special Editions of games. Final Fantasy 2, 3 and 5 aren't so great and I can see why they were left behind in Japan.

Final Fantasy was great when Nintendo still had it, it was obscure and attracted people who wanted it. The mystique is gone now after Playstation got it now that everyone plays it.

  • You don't seriously expect a series with 14+ entries to maintain a hipster-happy level of obscurity and non-popularity, do you?