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* ObviousBeta: As usual with an Egosoft game. The game launched with some major performance issues, and a wide variety of glitches, such as Teladi [[http://i.imgur.com/2O8pQKG.gif eyes rotating 90 degrees and popping out of their sockets when talking]]. Several features necessary for empire building - especially more ship commands and a report system - are totally absent, though modders have fixed some of this, and Egosoft have stated that they'll be bringing in old features that didn't make it into the release once they've solved performance issues and bugs. The 2.0 update works to address most of the issues, including new commands for ships, autopilot, a less gimmicky highway system, and so on.
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** A minor {{flame war}} ensued over a rumor that ''X Rebirth'' was going to be an {{MMORPG}}. ("It'll be an ''VideoGame/{{EVE|Online}}'' [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks clone]]!" "No, it won't! It'll bring new players!" "No, it won't! It'll wreck the [[GameMod modding]] community!"[[note]]Come to think of it, it probably would have.[[/note]]) By far the biggest worry was that it would open the noob-friendly ''VideoGame/{{X}}'' community to {{griefer}}s and other {{troll}}s who pwn noobs ForTheEvulz and brag about it online. Thankfully, the flames promptly dissipated [[WildMassGuessing when Egosoft stopped laughing]] and confirmed the rumor was false.
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** A minor {{flame war}} ensued over a rumor that ''X Rebirth'' was going to be an {{MMORPG}}. ("It'll be an ''VideoGame/{{EVE|Online}}'' [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks clone]]!" "No, it won't! It'll bring new players!" "No, it won't! It'll wreck the [[GameMod modding]] community!"[[note]]Come to think of it, it probably would have.[[/note]]) By far the biggest worry was that it would open the noob-friendly ''VideoGame/{{X}}'' community to {{griefer}}s and other {{troll}}s who pwn noobs ForTheEvulz and brag about it online. Thankfully, the flames promptly dissipated [[WildMassGuessing when Egosoft stopped laughing]] and confirmed the rumor was false.
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process
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* UncannyValley: Character models and voice acting are a ''massive'' improvement over previous games, but the stiff animations and often strange dialogue cause the characters to frequently nosedive into uncanny valley.
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** SETA was removed, which means that in order for stations to gather materials and build new phases, you have to either tediously micromanage the trade orders to get supplies efficiently to your station, or just leave the game running for many hours on end.
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** SETA was removed, removed on release, which means meant that in order for stations to gather materials and build new phases, you have had to either tediously micromanage the trade orders to get supplies efficiently to your station, or just leave the game running for many hours on end.end. It was eventually averted when SETA returned in version 4.0, and X4 averted the problem by having SETA from the start. It still must be crafted by the player. though.
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** "Show me your wares, please!" This is a ''lot'' louder than most other speech in the game.
** "Shut up Betty!"
** "Show me your wares, please!" This is a ''lot'' louder than most other speech in the game.
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About fans or critics praising it such audiences don't think it measures up. Not just disappointment.
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* HypeBacklash: The [[http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=314658 Rebirth Release Date thread]] really started to look like this after a while. In the beginning ''X Rebirth'' was supposed to be out in fourth quarter 2011. When Egosoft realized, [[ScheduleSlip oops, it's not ready]], publisher Creator/DeepSilver began enforcing a total news blackout. The most news that happened for quite a while was [[http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=327997 an interview with Egosoft's Bernd Lehahn]]. Some posters have said they've given up waiting, and the thread is beginning to degenerate. In late October 2012, GodwinsLaw briefly came into play when an ill-advised poster compared the blackout to a Nazi regime. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, the moderators loved that...]]
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** Another thing much of the fan base is up in arms over is that ''X Rebirth'' will be sold exclusively through UsefulNotes/{{Steam}}, whereas the other entries have been available without it.
*** This is no longer the case, as the game is also available, {{DRM}}-Free, through [[https://www.gog.com/game/x_rebirth GOG]].
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** Another thing much of The game (and the fan base is up in arms over is that ''X Rebirth'' will be sold exclusively through UsefulNotes/{{Steam}}, whereas the other entries have been available without it.
*** This is no longer the case, aspreceding game ''X3: Albion Prelude'') was also originally UsefulNotes/{{Steam}}-exclusive, which irritated players who don't like Steam. Eventually the game is also available, {{DRM}}-Free, through [[https://www.gog.com/game/x_rebirth GOG]].was re-released on Website/GOGDotCom.
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** Another thing much of the fan base is up in arms over is that ''X Rebirth'' will be sold exclusively through {{Steam}}, whereas the other entries have been available without it.
** A minor {{flame war}} ensued over a rumor that ''X Rebirth'' was going to be an {{MMORPG}}. ("It'll be an ''{{EVE|Online}}'' [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks clone]]!" "No, it won't! It'll bring new players!" "No, it won't! It'll wreck the [[GameMod modding]] community!"[[note]]Come to think of it, it probably would have.[[/note]]) By far the biggest worry was that it would open the noob-friendly ''VideoGame/{{X}}'' community to {{griefer}}s and other {{troll}}s who pwn noobs ForTheEvulz and brag about it online. Thankfully, the flames promptly dissipated [[WildMassGuessing when Egosoft stopped laughing]] and confirmed the rumor was false.
** A minor {{flame war}} ensued over a rumor that ''X Rebirth'' was going to be an {{MMORPG}}. ("It'll be an ''{{EVE|Online}}'' [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks clone]]!" "No, it won't! It'll bring new players!" "No, it won't! It'll wreck the [[GameMod modding]] community!"[[note]]Come to think of it, it probably would have.[[/note]]) By far the biggest worry was that it would open the noob-friendly ''VideoGame/{{X}}'' community to {{griefer}}s and other {{troll}}s who pwn noobs ForTheEvulz and brag about it online. Thankfully, the flames promptly dissipated [[WildMassGuessing when Egosoft stopped laughing]] and confirmed the rumor was false.
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** Another thing much of the fan base is up in arms over is that ''X Rebirth'' will be sold exclusively through {{Steam}}, UsefulNotes/{{Steam}}, whereas the other entries have been available without it.
** A minor {{flame war}} ensued over a rumor that ''X Rebirth'' was going to be an {{MMORPG}}. ("It'll be an''{{EVE|Online}}'' ''VideoGame/{{EVE|Online}}'' [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks clone]]!" "No, it won't! It'll bring new players!" "No, it won't! It'll wreck the [[GameMod modding]] community!"[[note]]Come to think of it, it probably would have.[[/note]]) By far the biggest worry was that it would open the noob-friendly ''VideoGame/{{X}}'' community to {{griefer}}s and other {{troll}}s who pwn noobs ForTheEvulz and brag about it online. Thankfully, the flames promptly dissipated [[WildMassGuessing when Egosoft stopped laughing]] and confirmed the rumor was false.
** A minor {{flame war}} ensued over a rumor that ''X Rebirth'' was going to be an {{MMORPG}}. ("It'll be an
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* HypeBacklash: The [[http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=314658 Rebirth Release Date thread]] really started to look like this after a while. In the beginning ''X Rebirth'' was supposed to be out in fourth quarter 2011. When Egosoft realized, [[ScheduleSlip oops, it's not ready]], publisher Creator/DeepSilver began enforcing a total news blackout. The most news that happened for quite a while was [[http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=327997 an interview with Egosoft's Bernd Lehahn]]. Some posters have said they've given up waiting, and the thread is beginning to degenerate. In late October 2012, GodwinsLaw briefly came into play when an ill-advised poster [[DudeNotFunny compared the blackout to a Nazi regime]].regime. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, the moderators loved that...]]
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** Ordering trades throughout the galaxy is hindered by needing to fly up to stations and look at specific components that have trade offers. The trade offers are forgotten over time, and they seldom make sense with regards to what the station produces or consumes. Back in X3, you only needed to order a ship to take a look.
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** Building a whole station. And then, later, expanding it. As long as trading takes, gathering the materials for whole station components takes even longer. And, when you get this quest, many possible sources of materials will belong to a hostile faction.
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** Building a whole station. And then, later, expanding it. As long as trading takes, gathering the materials for whole station components takes even longer. And, when you get this quest, many possible sources of materials will belong to a hostile faction. If you do manage to buy or pirate, then deliver all the resources, you get to deal with things like permanently-obstructed sections, parts rebuilding themselves repeatedly, being unable to give money to the station manager, and other such bugs. Thankfully, only two station segments are required for the plot.
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** The interface for issuing orders to ships, such as "Follow Me" or "Defend Target Ship," is greatly reduced compared to X3.
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** SETA was removed, which means that in order for stations to gather materials and build new phases, you have to either tediously micromanage the trade orders to get supplies efficiently to your station, or just leave the game running for many hours on end.
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** The game is plainly missing features and has a less-efficient empire management system compared to X3. It also has pre-set spots where stations can be built, and those stations will be of pre-determined types.
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* UncannyValley: Character models and voice acting are a ''massive'' improvement over previous games, but the stiff animations and often strange dialogue cause the characters to frequently nosedive into uncanny valley.
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** Building a whole station. And then, later, expanding it. As long as trading takes, gathering the materials for whole station components takes even longer. And, when you get this quest, many possible sources of materials will belong to a hostile faction.
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** Later, trading 300 food units and other things. It turns out that whatever ships you have available for shipping at that time may need some work.
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* HypeBacklash: The [[http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=314658 Rebirth Release Date thread]] is starting really started to look like this.this after a while. In the beginning ''X Rebirth'' was supposed to be out in fourth quarter 2011. When Egosoft realized, [[ScheduleSlip oops, it's not ready]], publisher DeepSilver Creator/DeepSilver began enforcing a total news blackout. The most news that has happened since is for quite a while was [[http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=327997 an interview with Egosoft's Bernd Lehahn]]. Some posters have said they've given up waiting, and the thread is beginning to degenerate. As of In late October 2012, GodwinsLaw briefly came into play when an ill-advised poster [[DudeNotFunny compared the blackout to a Nazi regime]]. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, the moderators loved that...]]
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** Subverted with the announcement of the multicore- and 64-bit-compatible game engine. The consensus is that it's well overdue.
** Subverted with the announcement of the multicore- and 64-bit-compatible game engine. The consensus is that it's well overdue.
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** Subverted with the announcement of the multicore- and 64-bit-compatible game engine. The consensus is that it's well overdue.
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** Very averted with the announcement of the new multicore- and 64-bit-compatible game engine. The consensus is that it's well overdue.
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* BrokenBase: The one-ship-only gameplay change is one of the most argued-about thing in the official forums, and it tends to heat people up - some have taken to defending the devs' decision, while others have called it pointless minimalism and simplification. Extended conversation about this can turn ugly.
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** Also, um, Egosoft is German. Hellooooo?
** Also, um, Egosoft is German. Hellooooo?
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* HypeBacklash: The [[http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=314658 Rebirth Release Date thread]] is starting to look like this. In the beginning ''X Rebirth'' was supposed to be out in fourth quarter 2011. When Egosoft realized, [[ScheduleSlip oops, it's not ready]], publisher DeepSilver began enforcing a total news blackout. The most news that has happened since is [[http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=327997 an interview with Egosoft's Bernd Lehahn]]. Some posters have said they've given up waiting, and the thread is beginning to degenerate. As of late October 2012, GodwinsLaw briefly came into play when an ill-advised poster [[DudeNotFunny compared the blackout to a Nazi regime.regime]]. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, the moderators loved that...]]
** Also, um, Egosoft is German. Hellooooo?]]
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** Very averted with the announcement of the new multicore- and 64-bit-compatible game engine. The consensus is that it's well overdue.
** Very averted with the announcement of the new multicore- and 64-bit-compatible game engine. The consensus is that it's well overdue.
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** This was the reaction of some of the fan base to the fact that ''X Rebirth'' will restrict the player to personally flying one roughly M6-size ship (as opposed to any manned, non-Kha'ak vessel in the universe for every other game except [=X:BtF=]).
** The ''Albion Skunk's'' {{Attack Drone}}s have [[StealthPun taken flak]] as well: though you can take control of them remotely, if the drone gets blown up you return to controlling the ''Albion'' instead of dying. This takes some of the danger out of being a fighter jock, for those who enjoy it.
** Another thing much of the fan base is up in arms over is that ''X Rebirth'' will be sold exclusively through {{Steam}}, whereas the other entries have been available without it.
** A minor {{flame war}} ensued over a rumor that ''X Rebirth'' was going to be an {{MMORPG}}. ("It'll be an ''{{EVE|Online}}'' [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks clone]]!" "No, it won't! It'll bring new players!" "No, it won't! It'll wreck the [[GameMod modding]] community!"[[note]]Come to think of it, it probably would have.[[/note]]) By far the biggest worry was that it would open the noob-friendly ''VideoGame/{{X}}'' community to {{griefer}}s and other {{troll}}s who pwn noobs ForTheEvulz and brag about it online. Thankfully, the flames promptly dissipated [[WildMassGuessing when Egosoft stopped laughing]] and confirmed the rumor was false.
*** It should be noted that the idea of an optional multiplayer feature (such as an online arena) was generally fairly well thought of.
** This was the reaction of some of the fan base to the fact that ''X Rebirth'' will restrict the player to personally flying one roughly M6-size ship (as opposed to any manned, non-Kha'ak vessel in the universe for every other game except [=X:BtF=]).
** The ''Albion Skunk's'' {{Attack Drone}}s have [[StealthPun taken flak]] as well: though you can take control of them remotely, if the drone gets blown up you return to controlling the ''Albion'' instead of dying. This takes some of the danger out of being a fighter jock, for those who enjoy it.
** Another thing much of the fan base is up in arms over is that ''X Rebirth'' will be sold exclusively through {{Steam}}, whereas the other entries have been available without it.
** A minor {{flame war}} ensued over a rumor that ''X Rebirth'' was going to be an {{MMORPG}}. ("It'll be an ''{{EVE|Online}}'' [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks clone]]!" "No, it won't! It'll bring new players!" "No, it won't! It'll wreck the [[GameMod modding]] community!"[[note]]Come to think of it, it probably would have.[[/note]]) By far the biggest worry was that it would open the noob-friendly ''VideoGame/{{X}}'' community to {{griefer}}s and other {{troll}}s who pwn noobs ForTheEvulz and brag about it online. Thankfully, the flames promptly dissipated [[WildMassGuessing when Egosoft stopped laughing]] and confirmed the rumor was false.
*** It should be noted that the idea of an optional multiplayer feature (such as an online arena) was generally fairly well thought of.
