History YMMV / ThunderCats2011

* FanPreferredCouple: While Cheetara ends up with Tygra and that does have its fans, most fans prefer to pair her with Lion-O. This is mainly because said fans feel that Cheetara and Lion-O have better chemistry than she and Tygra do and Lion-O's unrequited crush on Cheetara. For example, on Website/FanfictionDotNet, Cheetara/Lion-O easily outranks Cheetara/Tygra by a good margin.

** Tygra. His [[GreenEyedMonster constant jealously]] of Lion-O, {{Jerkass}} behavior, and being a light KarmaHoudini who gets chosen by Cheetara over the generally more heroic Lion-O has earned him a fair share of haters.
** Lion-O and Cheetara have become this since episode 14, thanks to the LoveTriangle.

* ClicheStorm: The most common complaint leveled against the premiere, other than ones related to TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

** And then there's Panthro and Dobo.

* IronWoobie: Lion-O, considering all that he goes through.

* OneSceneWonder: Lynx-O has a small cameo in "Omens Part Two". Fans are already placing bets on when he returns (possibly with Bengali and Pumyra in tow). In fact, he was planned to return in the second season had it continued.

** Panthro.

* EvilIsSexy: [[spoiler: Pumyra, to an amazing degree.]]

* ShippingGoggles: The peculiar IncestSubtext-laden AccidentalInnuendo of "Omens Part One" gave rise to Lion-O/Tygra NotBloodSiblings HoYayShipping.

** [[spoiler:The Wood Forgers. They first make their appearance rescuing the [=ThunderCats=], only to be revealed as being villainous because they aren't re-planting the trees they use in their paper magic. While that IS a mark against them, they do show themselves to be genuinely heroic, rescuing people and doing good, while Viragor tries to eat the shows heroes and aggressively attacks anyone he considers and outsider. This could have been a good opportunity to show both sides had merit, with Viragor convincing the Wood Forgers to replace the trees they cut down and use their resources more sparingly, while Viragor could have learned not to be such an openly hostile and possessive about 'his' forest. But nope, the Wood Forgers are just evil and need to be beaten up and driven from the forest, all the good they've done be damned.]]

* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: The series more or less [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructs]] this, especially in regards to Lion-O. Many of his own people show disdain towards his values of kindness and mercy towards his enemies, but their warrior culture attitudes are what ultimately led to their home being destroyed in the first place. Lion-O tries to be the badass king everyone wants, like Tygra, but over time he learns that this is not the right path to victory, and learns to rely more on his cunning, his leadership, and his mercy. Ironically, many fans miss this point and dislike Lion-O for not being the best fighter. That said, Lion-O does indeed become a much better warrior by the season's end.

** Lion-O, let's recap. So far Lion-O has lost his father, his mentor, his surrogate father [[spoiler:Captain Tunar]]. Also, his surrogate little brother [[spoiler:Emrick the Petalar.]] The latest being that he [[spoiler: DidNotGetTheGirl,]] and to top it all off [[spoiler: now he's ''dead!'']] MAN! the poor guy might as well be wearing "Kick Me" on his back or something!
*** Now it's gotten worse for him because [[spoiler:Pumyra is actually working for Mumm-Ra.]]
*** IronWoobie: Yet despite that he keeps going.

** "Song of the Petalars": "Retreat is cowardice"

** [[BigBad Mumm-Ra]] once plundered the cosmos searching for the legendary Power Stones in his quest to rule the universe. Commanding an army comprised of a number of races he enslaved using [[ExplosiveLeash explosive collars]] placed around their necks, Mumm-Ra ordered the destruction of a star in a highly-inhabited solar system, killing billions in the process, simply so he could use the remains of the star to forge the [[SwordAlmighty Sword of Plun-Darr]]. Defeated and [[SealedEvilInACan sealed inside a coffin]], Mumm-Ra is freed by [[TheDragon Grune]], and soon attacks Thundera with his army, killing Lion-O's father Claudus and enslaving most of the Thundercats. After taking over Thundera, Mumm-Ra proceeds to torture cleric Jaga for information about the Book of Omens. Resuming his hunt for the stones, Mumm-Ra has his army attack the Elephant village suspected of harbouring the soul stone. After failing to trick Lion-O and his brother Tygra into killing each other, Mumm-Ra frees the sadistic killers Kaynar and Addicus to keep his increasingly disillusioned army under control and has Pumyra, who has fallen in his invasion of Thundera, revived to serve as [[TheMole his spy]]. In the two-part series finale "What Lies Above", Mumm-Ra has the flying city of Avista attacked to steal the Tech Stone, uncaring that this would cause the entire city to fall from the sky.

** [[spoiler: The Wood Forgers. They first make their appearance rescuing the [=ThunderCats=], only to be revealed as being villainous because they aren't re-planting the trees they use in their paper magic. While that IS a mark against them, they do show themselves to be genuinely heroic, rescuing people and doing good, while Viragor tries to eat the shows heroes and aggressively attacks anyone he considers and outsider. This could have been a good opportunity to show both sides had merit, with Viragor convincing the Wood Forgers to replace the trees they cut down and use their resources more sparingly, while Viragor could have learned not to be such an openly hostile and possessive about 'his' forest. But nope, the Wood Forgers are just evil and need to be beaten up and driven from the forest, all the good they've done be damned.]]

** The Thunderkittens are well liked by initial reviewers, and are already popular with fans just from the previews and leaks. One review even called them the {{Breakout Character}}s of the show.

** The hype surrounding the appearance of Pumyra was ''insane'', and within ''hours'' of her design being revealed (in preview clips and concept art released by the production team) fanart and fanfiction started coming in. Not bad for someone who was all but dropped from the original's cast. She's even starting to edge out Cheetara as the fans favorite female.

* InformedWrongness: Lion-O gets hit with this a lot. Even his good decisions land him in the doghouse.

** [[AmbitionIsEvil Grune]] is one of the most respected soldiers in Kingdom of Thundera who secretly desires the throne. After he and his brother in arms Panthro are sent to search for the Book of Omens, an enraged Grune [[FaceHeelTurn frees and pledges himself to Mumm-Ra]], seemingly killing Panthro in the process. Grune helps lead the lizard army to plunder Thundera and enslave its people, even helping organize the death of the king. As Mumm-Ra's [[TheDragon right-hand]], Grune occupies the elephants' village, suspected of harboring the Spirit Stone, and threatens the lives of its inhabitants. In the end, he even attempts to [[TheStarscream betray Mumm-Ra]], and as he is being sucked into the Astral Plane, tries to [[TakingYouWithMe pull Panthro with him]].

** [[AmbitionIsEvil Grune]] is one one of the most respected soldiers in Kingdom of Thundera who secretly desires the throne. After he and his brother in arms Panthro are sent to search for the Book of Omens, an enraged Grune [[FaceHeelTurn frees and pledges himself to Mumm-Ra]], seemingly killing Panthro in the process. Grune helps lead the lizard army to plunder Thundera and enslave its people, even helping organize the death of the king. As Mumm-Ra's [[TheDragon right-hand]], Grune occupies the elephants' village, suspected of harboring the Spirit Stone, and threatens the lives of its inhabitants. In the end, he even attempts to [[TheStarscream betray Mumm-Ra]], and as he is being sucked into the Astral Plane, tries to [[TakingYouWithMe pull Panthro with him]].

* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Mumm-Ra]] once plundered the cosmos searching for the legendary Power Stones in his quest to rule the universe. Commanding an army comprised of a number of races he enslaved using [[ExplosiveLeash explosive collars]] placed around their necks, Mumm-Ra ordered the destruction of a star in a highly-inhabited solar system, killing billions in the process, simply so he could use the remains of the star to forge the [[SwordAlmighty Sword of Plun-Darr]]. Defeated and [[SealedEvilInACan sealed inside a coffin]], Mumm-Ra is freed by [[TheDragon Grune]], and soon attacks Thundera with his army, killing Lion-O's father Claudus and enslaving most of the Thundercats. After taking over Thundera, Mumm-Ra proceeds to torture cleric Jaga for information about the Book of Omens. Resuming his hunt for the stones, Mumm-Ra has his army attack the Elephant village suspected of harbouring the soul stone. After failing to trick Lion-O and his brother Tygra into killing each other, Mumm-Ra frees the sadistic killers Kaynar and Addicus to keep his increasingly disillusioned army under control and has Pumyra, who has fallen in his invasion of Thundera, revived to serve as [[TheMole his spy]]. In the two-part series finale "What Lies Above", Mumm-Ra has the flying city of Avista attacked to steal the Tech Stone, uncaring that this would cause the entire city to fall from the sky.

* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Mumm-Ra]] once commanded a number of races he kept enslaved using [[ExplosiveLeash explosive collars]] that he placed around their necks. In his quest to rule the universe, Mumm-Ra, as we see in flashbacks, ordered the destruction of a star system in a highly-inhabited solar system, killing billions in the process, simply so he could use the remains of the star to forge the [[SwordAlmighty Sword of Plun-Darr]]. Defeated and [[SealedEvilInACan sealed inside a coffin]], Mumm-Ra is freed by [[TheDragon Grune]], and soon attacks Thundera with his army, killing Lion-O's father Claudus and enslaving most of the Thundercats. After taking over Thundera, Mumm-Ra proceeds to torture Jaga for information. In "Between Brothers", Mumm-Ra tries to trick Lion-O and Panthro into killing each other. In the two-part series finale, "What Lies Above", Mumm-Ra threatens to destroy the Thunderkits when they interfere with his plans, and tries to collapse an entire city to kill his enemies.

** Snarf. Being a less-sentient non-speaking creature means that he's not a nagging whiner this time around. Fan response has been much more positive. Also [=WilyKit=] and [=WilyKat=], for those who found them annoying in the original.
** Although there are the few fans who ''enjoyed'' Snarf's voice in the original, and are actually ''upset'' he doesn't talk.
* RonTheDeathEater: Tygra. Shown as JerkWithAHeartOfGold who is both a rival to and a loyal supporter of his brother Lion-O in canon. In fanon, considered by some to be a villain more evil than Mumm-Ra, ostensibly because of his treatment of Lion-O, but chiefly because of [[DieforOurShip shipping preferences.]]
* ShipToShipCombat: Like with all fandoms, but in this case it was a three way battle: [[BodyguardCrush Lion-O/Cheetara]] vs. [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Tygra/Cheetara]] vs. [[HoYay Lion-O/Tygra.]] [[spoiler: Tygra/Cheetara wins.]]

** Before the first episode aired, people who grew up with the [[WesternAnimation/ThunderCats1985 original '80s show]] denounced the 2011 "[[{{Animesque}} too anime]]" character designs, though the [[http://slices-of-life.com/2011/03/02/thundercats-characters-hoooo-old-and-new/ original designs are both dated]], and themselves {{Animesque}} in their time.
** However the show has received near-unanimous praise on [[http://www.thundercats.ws/ Thundercats.ws]], one of the largest ''[=ThunderCats=]'' fan-boards out there.
** One review did suggest that most of those already denouncing the new show have not seen the original since they were children.

* VindicatedByHistory: The show garnered a more positive reception following ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'', due to being much closer and more faithful to the original. This is helped by the fact that it was cited as one of the influences for ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'', which is seen as the show's SpiritualSuccessor, along with ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra''. This was further heightened when a new reboot titled ''WesternAnimation/ThunderCatsRoar'' was announced, in addition to io9 stating that the 2011 reboot was [[https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-first-thundercats-reboot-was-ahead-of-its-time-1826439440 ahead of its time]]. It still remains divisive among long time fans of the original, however.

* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: The series more or less [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructs]] this, especially in regards to Lion-O. Many of his own people show disdain towards his values of kindess and mercy towards his enemies, but their warrior culture attitudes are what ultimately led to their home being destroyed in the first place. Lion-O tries to be the badass king everyone wants, like Tygra, but over time he learns that this is not the right path for victory, and learns to rely more on his cunning, his leadership, and his mercy. Ironically, many fans miss this point, and dislike Lion-O for not being the best fighter. That said, Lion-O does indeed become a much better warrior by the season's end.

%%* FanPreferredCouple:
%%**Lion-O/Cheetara, to those who didn't like the latter ending up with Tygra.
%%** The Lion-O/Wilykit pairing has gained some popularity from fans to the point that [[WordOfGod Dan Norton]] said in an [[https://soundcloud.com/celestasart-com/thundercats2011restofstory interview]] that they would become a couple in the ten-year timeskip during the aborted second production season.

* MemeticMutation:
** Tygra's [[spoiler:girlfriend-stealing powers]] are quickly becoming his most remarked-upon trait.
** Quickly! To the Mumm-Ramobile!
** Nothing that happens to Panthro matters because he's dead.
** "Whiskers!"
* {{Moe}}:
** The Thunderkittens.
** Also, Emrick. [[ImTakingHerHomeWithMe Awww!]]
** Young Cheetara too.

* {{Narm}}[=/=]NarmCharm:
** The ReallyDeadMontage for [[spoiler:Emrick the Petalar]] varies in effectiveness depending on the viewer's contextual tolerance for ViewersAreGoldfish.
** Most of the dialogue in "Into the Astral Plane" and "Between Brothers" comes off as [[DullSurprise detatched]], stock dialogue

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Don't like the Thundertank's season 2 upgrade? Good news: WordOfGod says it's detachable.

* CrackPairing: [[spoiler:Pumyra...and ''Mumm-Ra''?!]]

* FatalFlaw: [[MasterOfTheMixedMessage Poor group communication skills.]] For the first season, Lion-O perceived Cheetara was attracted to him, much to his delight and Tygra's jealousy. Cheetara unknowingly fueled the rivalry between the two brothers through unclear communication on her feelings. [[spoiler: She admits this in the end of Between Brothers, where she acknowledges her part in the fight and confesses her feelings to Tygra. After Cheetara declared her love for Tygra, Lion-O was angry about the poor communication, and called her out on it twice, including in a dream/death sequence.]] [[spoiler: Lion-O in a fit of [[HotBlooded rage]] ran off alone to fight Slythe, Kaynar and Addicus. Cheetara stated that they needed to stick together. After Tygra and Cheetara arrived to help, Lion-O, Cheetara and Tygra were overwhelmed. Cheetara threw down her weapon and said she needed to stick with Tygra, refusing to sacrifice one member of the group. Had Panthro not arrived, the three heroes would've been captured or killed. In an earlier episode, Panthro lampshades their group dynamics by quipping his surprise the group had survived as long as they had without more adult supervision.]]

* IdiotPlot: The whole series wouldn't have ''began'' if it wasn't for Grune and Panthro's [[spoiler:pointless]] quest for the Book of Omens. [[spoiler:Jaga knew its ''exact location'' the whole time and there wasn't any explanation as to why he never stopped his king from sending his two best generals on a what is practically a SnipeHunt. This led to the ''release of Mumm-Ra'']].

* VillainDecay: The Lizards have certainly taken a big hit from "overwhelmingly terrifying badasses" to "typical {{redshirt}} fodder." Unusually, losing their motivating racial pathos (whatever happened to the MercifulMinion?) is a contributing factor.
** Lampshaded in the season 2 opener, where Slithe tells Mumm-Ra that his minions are under strict (and correct) impressions that he thinks of them as expendable drones.

* WhatAnIdiot:
** The guy who had just bumped into somebody carelessly thinks he should scream "robbers" when two kids in rags reveal themselves trying to give back his bag of money.
** [[spoiler:Okay Pumyra, go ahead and [[TheQuisling sell out your entire race]] just to get petty revenge on Lion-O if you like, but blowing your own cover just to give Mumm-Ra one power stone is beyond stupid when you could have poisoned the cats in their sleep and taken all three stones any time you wanted.]]
*** [[spoiler:On the other hand, Pumyra was probably only ordered to tag along until the last stone was found. Also, her outbursts of anger were making it really hard to mesh well with the others (Cheetara even called her out on it at one point). Mumm-Ra probably figured that now that he knows where all the stones are it's safe for her to reveal herself. Also, at that point they thought the fight was easily theirs.]]
** Only one problem with that, [[spoiler:there's one more stone out there to find.]]

* HilariousInHindsight:
** Mumm-Ra being a merciless space-travelling warlord that collects gems/stones from different worlds to place on a gauntlet that when combined grants infinite power? [[ComicBook/{{Thanos}} Sounds]] [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse familiar...]]
** Early in the second season of the [[WesternAnimation/ThunderCats1985 original '80s show]], Lynx-O tells Lion-O that his voice sounds just like his father's. In the 2011 remake, Larry Kenny, Lion-O's original VA, will be the VA for Lion-O's father, Claudus.
** A kingdom of cats with one black maned cat leading a rebellion against the king with the oppressed minorities? [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing Why does that sound familiar?]]

* FatalFlaw: [[MasterOfTheMixedMessage Poor group communication skills.]] For the first season, Lion-O perceived Cheetara was attracted to him, much to his delight and Tygra's jealousy. Cheetara unknowingly fueled the rivalry between the two brothers through unclear communication on her feelings. [[spoiler: She admits this in the end of Between Brothers, where she acknowledges her part in the fight and confesses her feelings to Tygra. After Cheetara declared her love for Tygra, Lion-O was angry about the poor communication, and called her out on it twice, including in a dream/death sequence.]] [[spoiler: Lion-O in a fit of [[HotBlooded rage]] ran off to fight Slythe, Kaynar and Addicus. Cheetara stated that they needed to stick together. After Tygra and Cheetara arrived to help, Lion-O, Cheetara and Tygra were overwhelmed. Cheetara threw down her weapon and said she needed to stick with Tygra, refusing to sacrifice one member of the group. Had Panthro not arrived, the three heroes would've been captured or killed. In an earlier episode, Panthro lampshades their group dynamics by quipping his surprise the group had survived as long as they had without more adult supervision.]]

* FatalFlaw: [[MasterOfTheMixedMessage Poor group communication skills.]] For the first season, Lion-O perceived Cheetara was attracted to him, much to his delight and Tygra's jealousy. Cheetara unknowingly fueled the rivalry between the two brothers through unclear communication on her feelings. [[spoiler: She admits this in the end of Between Brothers, where she acknowledges her part in the fight and confesses her feelings to Tygra. After Cheetara declared her love for Tygra, Lion-O was angry about the poor communication, and called her out on it twice, including in a dream/death sequence.]] [[spoiler: Lion-O in a fit of [[HotBlooded rage]] ran off to fight Slythe, Kaynar and Addicus. Cheetara stated that they needed to stick together. After Tygra and Cheetara arrived to help, Lion-O, Cheetara and Tyrga were overwhelmed. Cheetara threw down her weapon and said she needed to stick with Tygra, refusing to sacrifice one member of the group. Had Panthro not arrived, the three heroes would've been captured or killed. In an earlier episode, Panthro lampshades their group dynamics by quipping his surprise the group had survived as long as they had without more adult supervision.]]