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** The concept of a woman being worthy to wield Mjolnir is not new, as ComicBook/{{Storm}} and [[ComicBook/XMen Rogue]] and even ComicBook/WonderWoman ([[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/thorww.jpg in a crossover]]) have all used it.

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** The concept of a woman being worthy to wield Mjolnir is not new, as ComicBook/{{Storm}} ComicBook/{{Storm|MarvelComics}} and [[ComicBook/XMen Rogue]] and even ComicBook/WonderWoman ([[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/thorww.jpg in a crossover]]) have all used it.
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%% * EvilIsSexy:
%% ** [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheEnchantress Amora the Enchantress]] has a lot of male fans, and for [[WorldsMostBeautifulWoman good reason too]]. Her sister Lorelei and Hela also count as well.
%% ** Loki for a lot of female fans, though it's a case of DependingOnTheArtist.
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** Creator/JackKirby gets this occasionally as well, with quite a number of fans feeling his initial ''Journey into Mystery'' run to be [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny mediocre by today's standards]]. Once it made the transition to ''The Mighty Thor'', though, it's near universally regarded to have GrowingTheBeard.

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** Creator/JackKirby gets this occasionally as well, with quite a number of fans feeling his initial ''Journey into Mystery'' run to be [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny mediocre by today's standards]].standards. Once it made the transition to ''The Mighty Thor'', though, it's near universally regarded to have GrowingTheBeard.

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* EvilIsSexy:
** [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheEnchantress Amora the Enchantress]] has a lot of male fans, and for [[WorldsMostBeautifulWoman good reason too]]. Her sister Lorelei and Hela also count as well.
** Loki for a lot of female fans, though it's a case of DependingOnTheArtist.

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%% * EvilIsSexy:
%% ** [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheEnchantress Amora the Enchantress]] has a lot of male fans, and for [[WorldsMostBeautifulWoman good reason too]]. Her sister Lorelei and Hela also count as well.
%% ** Loki for a lot of female fans, though it's a case of DependingOnTheArtist.



* FauxSymbolism: After his reincarnation as Kid Loki, his gold headband doesn't have his horns, but a little V that looks similar to them (the V is also on his tunic). The headband also has little wings over his ears--just like the ones on Thor's helmet. Commentary on how he could still be good, perhaps? When he pretended to betray Asgard out of resentment, the flames of Muspelheim surrounding him briefly took the shape of his old horns.



** The idea that Thor is blond and clean-shaven is not Marvel's. There's [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Thor.jpg/405px-Thor.jpg a painting]] done by a Swedish artist in 1872 that features a similar Thor.

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** The idea that Thor is blond and clean-shaven is not Marvel's. There's [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Thor.jpg/405px-Thor.jpg a painting]] done by a Swedish artist in 1872 that Art/ThorsFightWithTheGiants features a similar Thor.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: After his reincarnation as Kid Loki, his gold headband doesn't have his horns, but a little V that looks similar to them (the V is also on his tunic). The headband also has little wings over his ears--just like the ones on Thor's helmet. Commentary on how he could still be good, perhaps? When he pretended to betray Asgard out of resentment, the flames of Muspelheim surrounding him briefly took the shape of his old horns.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Loki got reincarnated as a boy, and Asgard wants him dead? Not only that, but he's also solving the mysteries that surround him with his female sidekick? And adding to that, he solves a mystery which involved extracting evil nightmares from suffering dreamers? [[Manga/MythicalDetectiveLokiRagnarok Sounds sort of familiar...]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight: In Walt Simonson's run, Jormungand taunts Thor by saying he intends to erect a tombstone for the fallen hero, using shattered New York buildings as construction material. He specifically expresses his interest in destroying the World Trade Center, making for an extremely uncomfortable speech after the [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror 2001 terrorist attacks]].
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Loki got reincarnated as a boy, and Asgard wants him dead? Not only that, but he's also solving the mysteries that surround him with his female sidekick? And adding to that, he solves a mystery which involved extracting evil nightmares from suffering dreamers? [[Manga/MythicalDetectiveLokiRagnarok Sounds sort of familiar...]]
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* AlternateSelfShipping: Loki fangirls tend to pair his female form with the man himself, usually his Creator/TomHiddleston incarnation. Or they just pair multiple male forms with each other, considering one of his tricks in the movies is to make multiple copies of himself. Fics make those copies tangible, of course. Since ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'' there are actually multiple versions of him around thanks to an impressive TimeyWimeyBall, yes, some people ship them.

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* AlternateSelfShipping: Loki fangirls tend to pair his female form with the man himself, usually his Creator/TomHiddleston incarnation. Or they just pair multiple male forms with each other, considering one of his tricks in the movies is to make multiple copies of himself. Fics make those copies tangible, of course. Since ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'' ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'' there are actually multiple versions of him around thanks to an impressive TimeyWimeyBall, yes, some people ship them.



** More than two years after his introduction, Dario Agger is still yet to have a hammer wipe that smug grin off his face. [[spoiler: Thankfully, he finally got what was coming to him. Not in Thor’s book, but rather in [[Comicbook/ImmortalHulk Immortal Hulk]], of all stories]].

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** More than two years after his introduction, Dario Agger is still yet to have a hammer wipe that smug grin off his face. [[spoiler: Thankfully, he finally got what was coming to him. Not in Thor’s book, but rather in [[Comicbook/ImmortalHulk [[ComicBook/ImmortalHulk Immortal Hulk]], of all stories]].



** Post-''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', Marvel began teasing the idea that Thor would be given the hammer of his Comicbook/UltimateMarvel counterpart. The followup arc then showed that Thor had found it...[[DistressedDude but was being held captive somewhere]]. Then they announced ''The Unworthy Thor'' ongoing series...and Thor still failed to get the hammer several issues in and ''also'' turned down receiving the hammer of Comicbook/BetaRayBill. At this point fans are just desperate for Thor to have a hammer, ''any'' hammer. This is made even worse by the fact that at the series conclusion, when Thor finally has a chance to gain the Ultimate Mjolnir, he refuses to, instead allowing some other, new Thor to take it instead.

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** Post-''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', Marvel began teasing the idea that Thor would be given the hammer of his Comicbook/UltimateMarvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel counterpart. The followup arc then showed that Thor had found it...[[DistressedDude but was being held captive somewhere]]. Then they announced ''The Unworthy Thor'' ongoing series...and Thor still failed to get the hammer several issues in and ''also'' turned down receiving the hammer of Comicbook/BetaRayBill.ComicBook/BetaRayBill. At this point fans are just desperate for Thor to have a hammer, ''any'' hammer. This is made even worse by the fact that at the series conclusion, when Thor finally has a chance to gain the Ultimate Mjolnir, he refuses to, instead allowing some other, new Thor to take it instead.



* AssPull: How and why [[Comicbook/{{Thor2014}} Female Thor]] replaces Male Thor. Nick Fury whispers something to Thor, rendering him unworthy to pick up Mjolnir, then Mjolnir became sentient to the point where not even Odin, the one who put the "worthy enchantment" on the hammer, can lift it, and suddenly a woman shows up on the moon and is able to lift the hammer effortlessly, and wield it like a god(dess) with no difficulty.

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* AssPull: How and why [[Comicbook/{{Thor2014}} [[ComicBook/{{Thor2014}} Female Thor]] replaces Male Thor. Nick Fury whispers something to Thor, rendering him unworthy to pick up Mjolnir, then Mjolnir became sentient to the point where not even Odin, the one who put the "worthy enchantment" on the hammer, can lift it, and suddenly a woman shows up on the moon and is able to lift the hammer effortlessly, and wield it like a god(dess) with no difficulty.



*** The fact that Jason Aaron [[AuthorAppeal likes]] to write Thor as MysteryFiction (God of Thunder 1st arc: serial killer investigation, 3rd arc: hunt after an escaped criminal, {{Comicbook/Thor|2014}} v4 1st arc: the mystery of the Goddess of Thunder, [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Thors]]: serial killer investigation) sometimes works for people other times not so much.

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*** The fact that Jason Aaron [[AuthorAppeal likes]] to write Thor as MysteryFiction (God of Thunder 1st arc: serial killer investigation, 3rd arc: hunt after an escaped criminal, {{Comicbook/Thor|2014}} {{ComicBook/Thor|2014}} v4 1st arc: the mystery of the Goddess of Thunder, [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Thors]]: serial killer investigation) sometimes works for people other times not so much.



** [[Comicbook/JourneyIntoMystery Kid Loki]] became one very quickly, and eventually, [[Comicbook/YoungAvengers Teen]] [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard Loki]].

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** [[Comicbook/JourneyIntoMystery [[ComicBook/JourneyIntoMystery Kid Loki]] became one very quickly, and eventually, [[Comicbook/YoungAvengers [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers Teen]] [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard [[ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard Loki]].



** [[spoiler: Since the Fem!Thor is Jane Foster, the "Comicbook/WhatIf" story on her finding Thor's Hammer became unintentional prediction in hindsight.]]

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** [[spoiler: Since the Fem!Thor is Jane Foster, the "Comicbook/WhatIf" "ComicBook/WhatIf" story on her finding Thor's Hammer became unintentional prediction in hindsight.]]



** The reveal that Female Thor [[spoiler: has cancer]] led to a massive amount of call backs to an [[http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/397/625/be7.jpg infamous]] Franchise/SpiderMan meme.

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** The reveal that Female Thor [[spoiler: has cancer]] led to a massive amount of call backs to an [[http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/397/625/be7.jpg infamous]] Franchise/SpiderMan ComicBook/SpiderMan meme.
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** It's probably safe to say that most who have seen ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' will be hearing Creator/CateBlanchett's wonderful ContraltoOfDanger in their head every time they see Hela in the comics from that point on.

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** It's probably safe to say that most who have seen ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' will be hearing Creator/CateBlanchett's wonderful ContraltoOfDanger contralto in their head every time they see Hela in the comics from that point on.

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*** After the MCU got popular, fanfic involving Loki tends to follow a similar split; either Amora is included with something resembling the former characterisation, albeit with her also being PromotedToLoveInterest, while others cast her as the latter so that Loki's wife Sigyn or an AuthorAvatar OriginalCharacter can look more sympathetic. It seems to be dependant on if they decide Amora herself is a good enough projection for themselves to be his love interest in the fics or if they want someone more "innocent" in the role.

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*** After the MCU got popular, fanfic involving Loki tends to follow a similar split; either Amora is included with something resembling the former characterisation, characterization, albeit with her also being PromotedToLoveInterest, while others cast her as the latter so that Loki's wife Sigyn or an AuthorAvatar OriginalCharacter can look more sympathetic. It seems to be dependant dependent on if they decide Amora herself is a good enough projection for themselves to be his love interest in the fics or if they want someone more "innocent" in the role.role.
**Speaking of Loki, fans are divided on whether Loki should be an AntiHero or go back to being Thor's ArchEnemy and one of the major Big Bads of the Marvel Universe.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Thor getting a new hammer, Jane Foster losing her powers and returning to normal, not to mention encouraging Thor to reclaim his mantle is this to those who hated the entire Female Thor storyline and just wanted the old God of Thunder back.
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** And the distinctly more confrontational: "Your god was nailed to a cross. My god has a hammer. Any questions?"
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** Creator/JMichaelStraczynski and the succeeding run by Creator/KieronGillen were likewise this to Creator/MattFraction's, which was considered by most to be a DorkAge.

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** Creator/JMichaelStraczynski and the succeeding run by Creator/KieronGillen were likewise this to Creator/MattFraction's, which was considered by most to be a DorkAge.an AudienceAlienatingEra.
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* IdiotPlot: Any plot that involves Thor or anyone else trusting [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Loki]] becomes one of these after, oh, his tenth betrayal (so, since the mid-1960s). Not that not trusting him changes anything really, if Loki want to manipulate you he ''will'' manipulate you.
** Notably, Balder keeps falling for this again and again throughout JMS's run.
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Pretty much every time Thor loses his powers or switches bodies, it causes this:
** The period where Thunderstrike was impersonating Thor. The character himself was well-liked once he stopped using Thor's name, but it really didn't feel like a Thor book, with barely any of the established characters being used.
** The Godpack era under Roy Thomas, where Thor got an absolutely abysmal new costume and started palling around with a team of immortals created by the High Evolutionary.
** The first half of Dan Jurgens' run, where Thor was bonded to a paramedic that Loki had killed.
** The new female Thor is starting to be seen as this by some, with comparisons to the disliked for [[ArcFatigue similar]] [[CreatorsPet reasons]] ''ComicBook/RedHulk'' though this isn't universal.
** ''The Lost Gods''/Comicbook/HeroesReborn. The late nineties in general were not a good time for Thor.

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Pretty much every time Thor loses his powers or switches bodies, it causes this:
** The period where Thunderstrike was impersonating Thor. The character himself was well-liked once he stopped using Thor's name, but it really didn't feel like a Thor book, with barely any of
See [[AudienceAlienatingEra/MarvelUniverse the established characters being used.
** The Godpack era under Roy Thomas, where Thor got an absolutely abysmal new costume and started palling around with a team of immortals created by
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** The first half of Dan Jurgens' run, where Thor was bonded to a paramedic that Loki had killed.
** The new female Thor is starting to be seen as this by some, with comparisons to the disliked for [[ArcFatigue similar]] [[CreatorsPet reasons]] ''ComicBook/RedHulk'' though this isn't universal.
** ''The Lost Gods''/Comicbook/HeroesReborn. The late nineties in general were not a good time for Thor.
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* UncannyValley: Loki's female form (as drawn by Olivier Coipel) is unsettling and creepy despite him inhabiting a beautiful body. The reason? [[http://i.imgur.com/tKxTu.jpg No eyebrows.]]

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* UncannyValley: UnintentionalUncannyValley: Loki's female form (as drawn by Olivier Coipel) is unsettling and creepy despite him inhabiting a beautiful body. The reason? [[http://i.imgur.com/tKxTu.jpg No eyebrows.]]
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* FoeYay: You know how Loki's page mentions that, while he was in a relationship with ComicBook/{{Storm}} of the ComicBook/XMen, he gave her back her ElementalPowers, as she had been depowered at the time? Well, some people have not let go of the fact that when he empowered Storm, he did so by giving her a hammer very much like Mjolnir. Or of the fact her outfit was basically a feminized version of Loki's brother's...
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* FanNickname: Loki's reincarnated self is Kid Loki, or less often Little Loki. Loki as a woman is Lady Loki (with the official Marvel description of that period on their site being [[DudeLooksLikeALady Loki looks like a Lady]].
** Unfortunately, and crudely, some circles of fans have also taken to nicknaming the [[AffirmativeActionLegacy New]] Thor 'Whor'.
** With the big reveal that Fem!Thor is [[spoiler: Jane Foster]] she has gained the more generous nicknames of [[spoiler: Jane Fos-Thor and The Mighty Jane ]].
** Beta Ray Bill has been dubbed both 'Beta Ray Bro' and 'Thorse.'

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Pretty much every time Thor loses his powers or switches bodies, it causes this:
** The period where Thunderstrike was impersonating Thor. The character himself was well-liked once he stopped using Thor's name, but it really didn't feel like a Thor book, with barely any of the established characters being used.
** The Godpack era under Roy Thomas, where Thor got an absolutely abysmal new costume and started palling around with a team of immortals created by the High Evolutionary.
** The first half of Dan Jurgens' run, where Thor was bonded to a paramedic that Loki had killed.
** The new female Thor is starting to be seen as this by some, with comparisons to the disliked for [[ArcFatigue similar]] [[CreatorsPet reasons]] ''ComicBook/RedHulk'' though this isn't universal.
** ''The Lost Gods''/Comicbook/HeroesReborn. The late nineties in general were not a good time for Thor.



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* DorkAge: Pretty much every time Thor loses his powers or switches bodies, it causes this:
** The period where Thunderstrike was impersonating Thor. The character himself was well-liked once he stopped using Thor's name, but it really didn't feel like a Thor book, with barely any of the established characters being used.
** The Godpack era under Roy Thomas, where Thor got an absolutely abysmal new costume and started palling around with a team of immortals created by the High Evolutionary.
** The first half of Dan Jurgens' run, where Thor was bonded to a paramedic that Loki had killed.
** The new female Thor is starting to be seen as this by some, with comparisons to the disliked for [[ArcFatigue similar]] [[CreatorsPet reasons]] ''ComicBook/RedHulk'' though this isn't universal.
** ''The Lost Gods''/Comicbook/HeroesReborn. The late nineties in general were not a good time for Thor.

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