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  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Odin is usually a master schemer who is ahead of everyone else yet balanced by nobility, compassion and truly cares for his subjects and humanity. Other writers have him as a General Ripper and Jerk with the Heart of a Jerk who viewed humanity as dung worms, and was willing to enthusiastically exterminate billions of innocent bystanders with no displayed regret, stated that all the innocent victims of Galactus' genocides too weak to stop him deserve to die, and is genuinely a horrible father and leader. How much he cares for Loki, being either neglectful and emotionally abusive, or a good father who's frustrated with Loki's refusal to see good in him, also comes up quite a bit.
  • Arc Fatigue: Four causes in Jason Aaron's run:
    • More than two years after his introduction, Dario Agger is still yet to have a hammer wipe that smug grin off his face. Thankfully, he finally got what was coming to him. Not in Thor’s book, but rather in Immortal Hulk, of all stories.
    • Up until 2017, fans still didn't know what made Thor unworthy. It was ultimately revealed to be Nick saying that Gorr was right about gods.
    • Post-Secret Wars (2015), Marvel began teasing the idea that Thor would be given the hammer of his Ultimate Marvel counterpart. The followup arc then showed that Thor had found it...but was being held captive somewhere. Then they announced The Unworthy Thor ongoing series...and Thor still failed to get the hammer several issues in and also turned down receiving the hammer of Beta Ray Bill. At this point fans are just desperate for Thor to have a hammer, any hammer. This is made even worse by the fact that at the series conclusion, when Thor finally has a chance to gain the Ultimate Mjolnir, he refuses to, instead allowing some other, new Thor to take it instead.
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    • The "War of the Realms" arc has been built up for years since 2013, yet it's only until the start of 2019 will the arc begin. By then, a lot of fans have stopped caring. Not helping matters is the constant teasing of who Female Thor really is taking up a huge chunk of the plot.
  • Ass Pull: How and why Female Thor replaces Male Thor. Nick Fury whispers something to Thor, rendering him unworthy to pick up Mjolnir, then Mjolnir became sentient to the point where not even Odin, the one who put the "worthy enchantment" on the hammer, can lift it, and suddenly a woman shows up on the moon and is able to lift the hammer effortlessly, and wield it like a god(dess) with no difficulty.
  • Author's Saving Throw: Thor getting a new hammer, Jane Foster losing her powers and returning to normal, not to mention encouraging Thor to reclaim his mantle is this to those who hated the entire Female Thor storyline and just wanted the old God of Thunder back.
  • Broken Base:
    • Thor's fans disagree over his treatment by Marvel, specifically Marvel's tendency to subject him to The Worf Effect every time there's some big criss-cross crisis event and they need to tear down a really powerful hero to build up the threat. Avengers Vs. X-Men is one of the biggest offenders, and Thor's not the only victim of poor treatment in the storynote . Others argue that it's justifiable as the ones who typically inflict The Worf Effect on him are usually cosmic powerhouses themselves.
    • Jason Aaron's run has been quite divisive:
      • The reveal that Thor is going to be replaced with a new woman wielding Mjolnir has already caused a large base breaker for all manner of different reasons. Some like it, some hate it, some like the idea but hate the execution, some merely find it pointless, among other issues.
      • The rest of Jason Aaron's run after the God-Butcher arc. It's either awesome or complete crap, especially after female Thor is introduced.
      • The fact that Jason Aaron likes to write Thor as Mystery Fiction (God of Thunder 1st arc: serial killer investigation, 3rd arc: hunt after an escaped criminal, Thor v4 1st arc: the mystery of the Goddess of Thunder, Thors: serial killer investigation) sometimes works for people other times not so much.
      • The identity of the female Thor (Jane Foster) has fans divided because many thought, and liked the idea of her identity being Roz Solomon. While some are interested in what could be done with a Thor who has cancer, others think it just gives the character a poor shelf life.
    • The quality of Warren Ellis' short stint on the title during the 90's. Some fans find it horrible because Thor stopped wearing a costume, shacked up with Enchantress and lost his powers (though the last bit happened after Ellis had already left the title), while others claim that it was an interesting new direction for Thor, and that it was a welcome change after the long run of terrible storylines that Thor had been subjected to for most of the early 90's.
    • Jack Kirby gets this occasionally as well, with quite a number of fans feeling his initial Journey into Mystery run to be mediocre by today's standards. Once it made the transition to The Mighty Thor, though, it's near universally regarded to have Growing the Beard.
  • Cant Unhear It: Fans tend to hear the voice of Rick D. Wasserman or Chris Hemsworth as Thor whenever they are reading his lines.
  • Complete Monster:
    • The Fire Giant, Surtur, is the lord of Muspelheim and a horrific monster who seeks to burn the universe down to rule it as he will. Seeking to cause Ragnarok, Surtur has Malekith use the Cask of Endless Winter to freeze Earth so he may reach Asgard, and attempt to burn it to ash with the rest of the Nine Realms following. Upon his return on Earth, Surtur destroys a village and condemns many humans to be his endlessly burning dolls of fire. Upon his later return, Surtur pulls off a scheme that will allow him to burn every realm, gloating viciously about the conflagration that will consume humanity.
    • Malekith the Accursed is the cruel ruler of the Dark Elves of Svartalfheim. Serving as the harbinger of Surtur, Malekith hunts for the Casket of Ancient Winters, murdering any who get in his way. He unleashes the Casket of Ancient Winters to plunge Earth into a frozen wasteland to let Surtur burn every realm with no care if his fellow Dark Elves are caught in the blaze as long as he profits from it. Malekith in his spare time also hunts down good-hearted, virtuous people and devours their souls, as the souls of the virtuous are a delicacy for him. Freed from imprisonment in Hel, Malekith brutally seizes control of the Dark Elves once more, butchering any Dark Elf who wouldn't join him and calling for his followers to "burn the old, flay the young and bring me the eyes of those who will not see." He has Dark Elf children work as slaves in his mines while having his starving people eat one another, partly so he could focus on feeding his armies and partly out of amusement. Malekith then forms a coalition of Asgard's enemies called the Dark Council and enacts a bloody and destructive campaign across all Nine Realms before finally setting his sights on Midgard, killing countless more, including Valkyrie. Living only for war and wanton cruelty, Malekith is feared and hated across the Nine Realms even by his own people.
  • Crazy Awesome: The Warriors Three.
  • Creepy Awesome: Malekith The Accursed, Depending on the Writer. He's an undead dark elf depicted as half blue-skinned elf down one side of his body and half black-with-rot corpse or living shadow down the other, wielding powerful sorcery and an almost Loki-like skilled planner and manipulator.
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: Much like what Jason Aaron's Last Days of Magic arc would do to magic by barely portraying it as a force of good worth saving later on, the Gorr the God-Butcher story-line is mainly used as a vehicle for the Jerkass Gods and The Gods Must Be Lazy message with barely any good counterpoints against it. It even went as far as to make Thor unworthy afterwards because most, if not all the gods that Gorr killed just happened to fit the tropes listed earlier. It is not a big surprise if you had reached this conclusion due to how the plot conveniently makes the overall argument constantly on Gorr's side rather than an actual debate, which also makes it hard to root for Thor as he is the moral loser in this story. And it doesn't even make a good case for Gorr's side as the run is dreadfully prone to not only ignore Show, Don't Tell, but actively contradicting what it's showing and expecting you to believe what it's telling. (Ie. it's full of atrocities committed against gods but shows almost none perpetrated by them (with the exception of the Shi'ar ones), but they totes deserved it because it says so.)
  • Dork Age: Pretty much every time Thor loses his powers or switches bodies, it causes this:
    • The period where Thunderstrike was impersonating Thor. The character himself was well-liked once he stopped using Thor's name, but it really didn't feel like a Thor book, with barely any of the established characters being used.
    • The Godpack era under Roy Thomas, where Thor got an absolutely abysmal new costume and started palling around with a team of immortals created by the High Evolutionary.
    • The first half of Dan Jurgens' run, where Thor was bonded to a paramedic that Loki had killed.
    • The new female Thor is starting to be seen as this by some, with comparisons to the disliked for similar reasons Red Hulk though this isn't universal.
    • The Lost Gods/Heroes Reborn. The late nineties in general were not a good time for Thor.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • Leah, Hela's handmaiden and Kid Loki's proclaimed "BFF", has gained an incredible popularity for her dynamic with Kid Loki.
    • The Warriors Three in general but especially Volstagg, for being a boisterous Lovable Coward while also being an awesome father to his kids.
    • Thunderball, as the lone smart guy, tends to get plenty of solo appearances and more prominent usage than the rest of the Wrecking Crew.
    • There's also Beta Ray Bill, due to being one of the few heroes other than Thor who's worthy of wielding Mjolnir.
    • Absorbing Man, largely for being one of the few Earth-based enemies for Thor who's managed to keep being a legitimate threat to him.
    • Thunderstrike became this after he stopped impersonating Thor and grew into his own character.
    • Kid Loki became one very quickly, and eventually, Teen Loki.
  • Evil Is Cool:
    • Loki, whenever he's playing the role of bad guy.
    • Surtur the Flaming Giant, during Walt Simonson's run.
    • Gorr the God-Butcher especially in Jason Aaron's signature storyline with him, the original 11 issue arc in Thor: God of Thunder, has quickly become one of the greater new villains in the Marvel Universe.
  • Evil Is Sexy:
    • Amora the Enchantress has a lot of male fans, and for good reason too. Her sister Lorelei and Hela also count as well.
    • Loki for a lot of female fans, though its a case of Depending on the Artist.
  • Gateway Series: The character and series has been noted by various Norse mythology enthusiasts as the catalyst for their interest on the subject matter, such as Neil Gaiman.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Loki got reincarnated as a boy, and Asgard wants him dead? Not only that, but he's also solving the mysteries that surround him with his female sidekick? And adding to that, he solves a mystery which involved extracting evil nightmares from suffering dreamers? Sounds sort of familiar...
    • Since the Fem!Thor is Jane Foster, the "What If?" story on her finding Thor's Hammer became unintentional prediction in hindsight.
  • Jerkass Woobie: No matter how you feel about Kid Loki, his methods, or if Ikol has a bigger plan in store for him, watching him in the new Mighty Thor issues eight and nine, first struggling to remember his brother and then after achieving that having to deal with the fact that no one else does just makes you want to hug him. He also only really acted like a jerk to Donald Blake after the doctor asked how Loki could forget Tanarus, driving the knife deeper.
    • He does however quickly get an ally and recovers Mjolnir, and that ally just so happens to be The Silver Surfer.
    • Gorr the God Butcher. He may be a murderer who wants to slaughter the Asgardians, but dear God is his backstory screwed up.
    • The Executioner. The only reason he's even a villain to begin with is because of the Enchantress stringing him on and manipulating him.
  • Idiot Plot: Any plot that involves Thor or anyone else trusting Loki becomes one of these after, oh, his tenth betrayal (so, since the mid-1960s). Not that not trusting him changes anything really, if Loki want to manipulate you he will manipulate you.
    • Notably, Balder keeps falling for this again and again throughout JMS's run.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Loki himself, Thor's wicked younger brother, is the God of Mischief and frequently forms schemes to embarrass or damage Thor and Asgard itself, which he has repeatedly taken over in some gambit or another. It is later revealed Loki even used time travel to arrange his own adoption at the hands of Odin, murdering his own abusive biological father Laufey, in a clever gambit to get revenge against Asgard in the future. Even when killed, Loki arranges to bring back his younger self and takes him over to return, simultaneously one of Thor's deadliest enemies and beloved brother, rarely lost for his charming smile and a backup plan, who defends Asgard and its people as much as he threatens it.
  • Memetic Badass: Heimdall both in and out of universe, especially his MCU incarnation.
    • Thor himself is this in and out of universe as well. He was originally made to be even stronger than the HULK. Despite Hulk later regaining the title of "strongest one there is" in later storylines, Thor tends to be the only one that can be counted on to fight evenly with and have high chances of winning against the Green Goliath more often than not. To put things into perspective in JLA/Avengers, Superman, while eventually victorious against him, stated that Thor was the strongest opponent he ever faced, arguably more so than Darkseid and friggin Doomsday. The absurd amount of smack talk that he can almost always back up adds to this.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "My god has a hammer. Your argument is invalid."
    • And the distinctly more confrontational: "Your god was nailed to a cross. My god has a hammer. Any questions?"
    • The reveal that Female Thor has cancer led to a massive amount of call backs to an infamous Spider-Man meme.
  • Moral Event Horizon: In one issue, the first thing Malekith the Accursed does after escaping Niffleheim is to massacre an entire dark elf village in Svartalfheim, his home world. He stays past the line when he decides to kill many other dark elves that have scattered throughout the nine realms with his own loyal army, believing that they are no longer the people he used to rule.
  • My Real Daddy: First off, many consider Jack, rather than Stan, to be Thor's "true" creator, as Jack was much more invested in and ambitious with the character. Taking the entire history of the character into account, though, the stories and art of Walt Simonson will probably never be surpassed, and are universally beloved by both fans and creators.
  • Narm Charm:
    • Some of the Shakespearean dialogue can be downright silly. But when you have a god with a hammer that shoots lightning engaged in mortal combat with thirty-foot frost giants, it just seems appropriate. And, well, awesome.
    • This is the only reason Frog Thor works. The whole storyline seems ridiculous, but the frogs are just so... noble. And once you're sucked in, you can ignore how absolutely bizarre the actual Frog Thor looks.
  • Older Than They Think:
    • The idea that Thor is blond and clean-shaven is not Marvel's. There's a painting done by a Swedish artist in 1872 that features a similar Thor.
    • The concept of a woman being worthy to wield Mjolnir is not new, as Storm and Rogue and even Wonder Woman (in a crossover) have all used it.
    • The concept of a mild-mannered person with some form of PHD turning into Thor was previously featured in a 1959 Batman story.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap:
    • Thunderstrike, after he stopped impersonating Thor and was able to grow into his own character.
    • Thanks to the mediocre reception of Thor: The Dark World and Malekith's characterisation as a Generic Doomsday Villain, Malekith became infamous for being among the MCU's most forgettable villains, and newcomers to the comics transfer their dislike for the character to his comics self. But thanks to Jason Aaron, Comics Malekith comes back with a vengeance. Despite the divisiveness of Aaron's later run, Malekith is considered by readers to be one of the run's best parts for being a Creepy Awesome villain.
  • Seasonal Rot: Jason Aaron's run was initially lauded by many during the God-Butcher arc, with some comparing it to the best of Walt Simonson's works. However, once his run on the Female Thor arc began, a lot of fans began to lose interest due to a divisive lead character, Thor being shelved to the background and the dragged out plot with Malekith.
  • Ship-to-Ship Combat: Thor/Jane Vs. Thor/Sif. Some feel that Jane humanizes Thor in ways that Sif can't, while others feel that Jane is too boring for Thor (even when she's masquerading as the new female Thor) and feel that Thor has better chemistry with the fiery Sif. And that's not even getting started on the Thor/Jane versus Donald/Jane ship.
  • Signature Series Arc:
    • In the Lee-Kirby era, there was "Tales of Asgard", "Ego the Living Planet", and "Mangog".
    • In the Walt Simonson era, there are two major story arcs, "The Ballad of Beta Ray Bill" and "The Surtur Saga".
    • In Jason Aaron's run it's the opening "The God Butcher/Godbomb" 12 issue story arc running in Thor, God of Thunder.
  • Theme Pairing: Thor / Storm has a substantial following due to the fact that both of them are associated with weather and thunder. Image like this just encourages comments like "Bring on the biracial thunder babies".
  • Tough Act to Follow:
    • The original Lee-Kirby run was such a defining classic that it took a long while for later writers to measure up to it.
    • Walt Simonson was the major exception to the above and his epic run in The '80s as writer/artist is the definitive run on The Mighty Thor, and a classic superhero run.
    • J. Michael Straczynski and the succeeding run by Kieron Gillen were likewise this to Matt Fraction's, which was considered by most to be a Dork Age.
    • Divisive as it is, Jason Aaron's run on Thor is also considered one for the record books, and whoever follows him will have a lot to step in to.
  • The Woobie: Kurse. The poor guy just gets shit on time and time again. Betrayed by his master Malekith, turned into a monster, briefly rendered amnesiac and mentally disturbed, and finally killed during Ragnarok.
  • Uncanny Valley: Loki's female form (as drawn by Olivier Coipel) is unsettling and creepy despite him inhabiting a beautiful body. The reason? No eyebrows.


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