History YMMV / SupermanVsTheElite

* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Like the story it's based on, the film seemingly hand-waved the ideal that killing is wrong regardless of how justified within the first half, but later on when Superman pretends to adopt the take-no-prisoners approach, everyone's initial reaction was "This isn't right". The true anvil was that society does not always know what's best for it and that they need guidance, not the threat of punishment to progress.

* MisaimedFandom: Manchester Black. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll leave it at that.]]

** This is also what Superman believes he would cross over if he behaved like the Elite do. And judging by ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', he's right. Thankfully, nothing about Injustice is even remotely in canon, or in-character for that matter.

** Manchester Black may be a WellIntentionedExtremist [[WhatTheHellHero lambasted]] by Superman for his unethical and amoral methods, but it's also shown that some of his questionable actions have prevented worse harm in the future.

* CreepyAwesome: [[spoiler: While he's faking it, Superman when he pretends to be like the Elite makes for one of the most terrifying depictions of the character. Just look at the all the entries on the NightmareFuel page related to him, but even if it's exemplify how Superman shouldn't act, it still can't help but be badass.]]

* {{Squick}}: Menagerie's urges towards promiscuity combined with [[BodyHorror the nature of her superpowers]].

* HarsherInHindsight: Superman's disapproval of the Elite's means in light of ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' which has [[spoiler:an alternate Superman using similar methods after a FaceHeelTurn after the Joker tricked him into killing Lois Lane and their unborn child, which in turn led to Metropolis being nuked]]. The fact that Creator/GeorgeNewbern reprised the role again in the game adds to the harshness. Not only that, but Newbern did it in the voice of one of the most well-known examples of FallenHero ever: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth.]]

** Menagerie crosses it in her very first scene by having her parasitic monsters eat an innocent dog alive ([[GoryDiscretionShot offscreen]]) simply for barking at her.

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GifKfwDWq9Q main theme]] is appropriately heroic.

* GeniusBonus: The opening credits music is in the style of classic British hard rock/punk, which is appropriate considering the BigBad.

* CreepyAwesome: [[spoiler: While he's faking it, Superman when he pretends to be like the Elite makes for one of the most terrifying depictions of the character. Just look at the all the entries on the NightmareFuel page related to him.]]

* MisaimedFandom: A lot of fans towards Manchester Black. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll leave it at that.]]

* EarWorm: The music in the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMahz1OrFhs opening credits]].

** This is also what Superman believes he would cross over if he behaved like the Elite do. And judging by ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', he's right. Thankfully, nothing about Injustice is even remotely in canon, or in character for that matter.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: Manchester Black may be a WellIntentionedExtremist [[WhatTheHellHero lambasted]] by Superman for his unethical and amoral methods, but it's also shown that some of his questionable actions have prevented worse harm in the future.
-->'''Manchester Black:''' People don't want babysitters in spandex to spank them when they're bad. They want surgeons to cut out the cancers that fester in us and make sure they never come back.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A lot of fans dislike the change of [[spoiler:Superman actually depowering the Elite (he only had them imprisoned in the comic)]], as they felt it kinda went against his point, to say nothing of begging the question of why something similar wasn't done to Atomic Skull.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A lot of fans dislike the change of [[spoiler:Superman actually depowering the Elite (he only had them imprisoned in the comic)]], as they felt it kinda went against his point.

* BetterThanCanon: Widely preferred to the comic book story it's based on, thanks to a film of over an hour in length can do more than a single comic book issue.

* EarWorm: The music in the opening credits.

* AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GifKfwDWq9Q main theme]] is appropriately heroic.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Elite fall into this for some, for their {{Hypocrite}} moments (e.g., even while they're still [[AntiHero Anti-Heroes]] instead of the {{Big Bad}}s, they're already okay with things like torturing innocent animals (see Menagerie's entry under MoralEventHorizon) and [[spoiler:enslaving an innocent GeniusLoci as their ship]]). And their SmugSnake demeanors throughout the movie don't help, either.

* BetterThanCanon: Widely preferred to the comic book story it's based on.

* MagnificentBastard: Superman. He proves GoodIsNotDumb [[spoiler: when he fakes turning violent against the Elite. He proves to be a ConsummateLiar and has dozens of civilians to who are in on the act to make it more convincing while having dozens of robots around to make sure it only looks like his fight with the Elite is killing people.]]

* {{Anvilicious}}: SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped about nonviolent discourse, sure, but did Supes ''really'' need to deliver a coda to an already cheesy speech after Manchester yells at him? Yes. Yes he did.

* {{Anvilicious}}: SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped about nonviolent discourse, sure, but did Supes ''really'' need to deliver a coda to an already cheesy speech after Manchester yells at him?
** Yes. Yes he did.

* MightMakesRight: Manchester Black is portrayed in the wrong for arguing that. Later on, Superman [[spoiler: completely deconstructs this by faking his MoralEventHorizon and pretending to kill Manchester's team, showing that his might does ''not'' make it right at all.]]

* MightMakesRight: Manchester Black is portrayed in the wrong for arguing that. Later on, Superman [[spoiler: completely deconstructs this by faking his MoralEventHorizon and pretending to kill Manchester's team, showing that his might does ''not'' make it right at all.

** You can sympathize with the Elite's motivation during the whole movie, due to StrawmanHasAPoint. Even after [[spoiler:they try to kill Superman, you can, to an extent, feel sorry for them due to how Superman apparently reacts]]. However, Black does cross it when he [[spoiler:explicitly states his intention to obliterate the city in order to escape Superman's wrath]].

** Manchester Black is portrayed in the wrong for arguing MightMakesRight. However, Superman only succeeds because [[spoiler: he manages to overpower the Elite his his superior powers]].