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** Molly, Molly, Molly. She's been unlucky in love for years, having moved to the valley after one too many heartbreaks in the city. She's pretty and she knows it, but she knows it's also led to a lot of shallow romances and short flings and [[OldMaid is worried she'll never get married and settle down]]. Her trip to the city for a friend's wedding has her old friends mocking her for being a mere waitress in a small town café. If you turn her down--or marry someone else--she spends the rest of her time in the valley unmarried, lamenting as the years go by how she's continued to be unlucky in love and dumped over and over. And if you do marry her, you'll learn [[spoiler:she was forced to grow up fast as a result of [[[[ParentalAbandonment being separated from her parents as a child]], which is why she's such a devoted mother.]]
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** Molly, Molly, Molly. She's been unlucky in love for years, having moved to the valley after one too many heartbreaks in the city. She's pretty and she knows it, but she knows it's also led to a lot of shallow romances and short flings and [[OldMaid is worried she'll never get married and settle down]]. Her trip to the city for a friend's wedding has her old friends mocking her for being a mere waitress in a small town café. If you turn her down--or marry someone else--she spends the rest of her time in the valley unmarried, lamenting as the years go by how she's continued to be unlucky in love and dumped over and over. And if you do marry her, you'll learn [[spoiler:she was forced to grow up fast as a result of [[[[ParentalAbandonment [[ParentalAbandonment being separated from her parents as a child]], which is why she's such a devoted mother.]]
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** Matthew. As with Rock, it's hard to find someone with a neutral opinion on him. Either he's a rude {{Jerkass}} being overprotective and controlling towards Cecilia, or he's just shy and awkward but has a heart of gold once you get to know him. Worsened by the remake making both him and Cecilia romancable, making him alternate sharply between being gruff but kind and berating the player if you befriend both of them. Once the remake came out, he was the most popular bachelor to romance by far-- which resulted in a backlash of complaints as many players regretted marrying him after finding out that he doesn't cook or help much with the farm, unaware that this isn't something unique to Matt-- all the candidates become house-spouses who occasionally deign to do a small chore if you're lucky with RNG, but otherwise don't contribute in a material fashion.
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** Matthew. As with Rock, it's hard to find someone with a neutral opinion on him. Either he's a rude {{Jerkass}} being ''way'' too overprotective and controlling towards Cecilia, or he's just shy and awkward but has a heart of gold once you get to know him. Worsened by the remake making both him and Cecilia romancable, making him alternate sharply between being gruff but kind and berating the player if you befriend both of them. Once the remake came out, he was the most popular bachelor to romance by far-- which far--which resulted in a backlash of complaints as many players regretted marrying him after finding out that he doesn't cook or help much with the farm, unaware that this isn't something unique to Matt-- Matt, as all the candidates become house-spouses who occasionally deign to do a small chore if you're lucky with RNG, but otherwise don't contribute in a material fashion.
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** Molly was embraced by many queer players as well, with many who grew up playing ANWL yearning to romance her as Pony due to how [[HoYay intimate her lines towards Pony are]], and the heartbreak of watching her mourn her unluckiness in love chapter after chapter.
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** Molly was embraced by many queer players as well, with many who grew up playing ANWL the original game yearning to romance her as Pony due to how [[HoYay intimate her lines towards Pony are]], and the heartbreak of watching her mourn her unluckiness in love chapter after chapter.
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** Cecilia is one of two options who will ''always'' be available to marry you at the end of the year, regardless of how much affection she has for you. Her "loveless" reverse-proposal reveals that she turned down her arranged marriage because (ironically) she believes marriage should be for love, and asks if she could maybe stay by your side forever, since you've always been so kind to her. She can say this even if you've never interacted with her[[note]] if you opted out of meeting the townsfolk at the beginning of the game and slept through the year[[/note]]. It's hard to replay the game and marry someone else with the knowledge that she's always going to turn down her shot at marriage for the player, ending up alone and jaded if the player doesn't marry her.
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** Cecilia is one of two options who will ''always'' be available to marry you at the end of the year, regardless of how much affection she has for you.you--even zero. Her "loveless" reverse-proposal reveals that she turned down her arranged marriage because (ironically) she believes marriage should be for love, and asks if she could maybe stay by your side forever, since you've always been so kind to her. She can say this even if you've never interacted with her[[note]] if her[[note]]If you opted out of meeting the townsfolk at the beginning of the game and slept through the year[[/note]]. year.[[/note]]. It's hard to replay the game and marry someone else with the knowledge that she's always going to turn down her shot at marriage for the player, ending up alone and jaded if the player doesn't marry her.her.
** Molly, Molly, Molly. She's been unlucky in love for years, having moved to the valley after one too many heartbreaks in the city. She's pretty and she knows it, but she knows it's also led to a lot of shallow romances and short flings and [[OldMaid is worried she'll never get married and settle down]]. Her trip to the city for a friend's wedding has her old friends mocking her for being a mere waitress in a small town café. If you turn her down--or marry someone else--she spends the rest of her time in the valley unmarried, lamenting as the years go by how she's continued to be unlucky in love and dumped over and over. And if you do marry her, you'll learn [[spoiler:she was forced to grow up fast as a result of [[[[ParentalAbandonment being separated from her parents as a child]], which is why she's such a devoted mother.]]
** Molly, Molly, Molly. She's been unlucky in love for years, having moved to the valley after one too many heartbreaks in the city. She's pretty and she knows it, but she knows it's also led to a lot of shallow romances and short flings and [[OldMaid is worried she'll never get married and settle down]]. Her trip to the city for a friend's wedding has her old friends mocking her for being a mere waitress in a small town café. If you turn her down--or marry someone else--she spends the rest of her time in the valley unmarried, lamenting as the years go by how she's continued to be unlucky in love and dumped over and over. And if you do marry her, you'll learn [[spoiler:she was forced to grow up fast as a result of [[[[ParentalAbandonment being separated from her parents as a child]], which is why she's such a devoted mother.]]
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** Cecilia is one of two options who will ''always'' agree to marry you, regardless of how much affection she has for you. Her "loveless" proposal reveals that she turned down her arranged marriage because (ironically) she believes marriage should be for love, and asks if she could maybe stay by your side forever, since you've always been so kind to her. She can say this even if you've never interacted with her[[note]] if you opted out of meeting the townsfolk at the beginning of the game and slept through the year[[/note]]. It's hard to replay the game and marry someone else with the knowledge that she's always going to turn down her shot at marriage for the player, ending up alone and jaded if the player doesn't marry her.
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** Cecilia is one of two options who will ''always'' agree be available to marry you, you at the end of the year, regardless of how much affection she has for you. Her "loveless" proposal reverse-proposal reveals that she turned down her arranged marriage because (ironically) she believes marriage should be for love, and asks if she could maybe stay by your side forever, since you've always been so kind to her. She can say this even if you've never interacted with her[[note]] if you opted out of meeting the townsfolk at the beginning of the game and slept through the year[[/note]]. It's hard to replay the game and marry someone else with the knowledge that she's always going to turn down her shot at marriage for the player, ending up alone and jaded if the player doesn't marry her.
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** Rock's introduction event becomes this if you marry him. Although he's quick to insist that he's happy being an unemployed bum, living the dream "just me, myself, and I!", one of his post-marriage lines has him admit that he felt aimless and lonely back then, and now that he has you and your child, he finally feels like his life has a purpose.
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** Rock's introduction event becomes this if you marry him. Although he's quick to insist that he's happy being an unemployed bum, living the dream "just me, myself, and I!", one of his post-marriage lines has him admit [[spoiler:admit that he felt aimless and lonely back then, and now that he has you and your child, he finally feels like his life has a purpose.]]
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** Rock's introduction event becomes this if you marry him. Although he's quick to insist that he's happy being an unemployed bum, living the dream "just me, myself, and I!", [[spoiler:one of his post-marriage events has him admit that he felt aimless and lonely back then, and now that he has you and your child, he finally feels like his life has a purpose.]]
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** Rock's introduction event becomes this if you marry him. Although he's quick to insist that he's happy being an unemployed bum, living the dream "just me, myself, and I!", [[spoiler:one one of his post-marriage events lines has him admit that he felt aimless and lonely back then, and now that he has you and your child, he finally feels like his life has a purpose.]]
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** Matthew. As with Rock, it's hard to find someone with a neutral opinion on him. Either he's a rude {{Jerkass}} being overprotective and controlling towards Cecilia, or he's just shy and awkward but has a heart of gold once you get to know him. Worsened by the remake making both him and Cecilia romancable, making him alternate sharply between being gruff but kind and berating the player if you befriend both of them.
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** Matthew. As with Rock, it's hard to find someone with a neutral opinion on him. Either he's a rude {{Jerkass}} being overprotective and controlling towards Cecilia, or he's just shy and awkward but has a heart of gold once you get to know him. Worsened by the remake making both him and Cecilia romancable, making him alternate sharply between being gruff but kind and berating the player if you befriend both of them. Once the remake came out, he was the most popular bachelor to romance by far-- which resulted in a backlash of complaints as many players regretted marrying him after finding out that he doesn't cook or help much with the farm, unaware that this isn't something unique to Matt-- all the candidates become house-spouses who occasionally deign to do a small chore if you're lucky with RNG, but otherwise don't contribute in a material fashion.
* HarsherInHindsight:
** Rock's introduction event becomes this if you marry him. Although he's quick to insist that he's happy being an unemployed bum, living the dream "just me, myself, and I!", [[spoiler:one of his post-marriage events has him admit that he felt aimless and lonely back then, and now that he has you and your child, he finally feels like his life has a purpose.]]
** Rock's introduction event becomes this if you marry him. Although he's quick to insist that he's happy being an unemployed bum, living the dream "just me, myself, and I!", [[spoiler:one of his post-marriage events has him admit that he felt aimless and lonely back then, and now that he has you and your child, he finally feels like his life has a purpose.]]
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* TheWoobie: There's something almost sad about Nami's history. She's a [[TheDrifter drifter]] with a MysteriousPast, including an implied bad relationship with her parents. Her father calls the inn in one heart scene, but doesn't even bother to speak to her. In the same scene she gets a letter telling her she's being cut off, making her immediately ask Tei and then the player for a job--even if you say sure, she'll say to forget she asked. Her loveless reverse proposal[[note]]Where you have at least six hearts, but never saw any romantic scenes with her.[[/note]] has her telling the player she's run out of money and will have to leave--but she ''really'' doesn't want to and asks to move in with you, saying she won't have to be looked after and she just wants a place to call home. And if you [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential reject her proposal]], she'll sadly say that she'd thought she could count on you and she had a good run there before walking out.
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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
** There's something almost sad about Nami's history. She's a [[TheDrifter drifter]] with a MysteriousPast, including an implied bad relationship with her parents. Her father calls the inn in one heart scene, but doesn't even bother to speak to her. In the same scene she gets a letter telling her she's being cut off, making her immediately ask Tei and then the player for a job--even if you say sure, she'll say to forget she asked. Her loveless reverse proposal[[note]]Where you have at least six hearts, but never saw any romantic scenes with her.[[/note]] has her telling the player she's run out of money and will have to leave--but she ''really'' doesn't want to and asks to move in with you, saying she won't have to be looked after and she just wants a place to call home. And if you [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential reject her proposal]], she'll sadly say that she'd thought she could count on you and she had a good run there before walking out.
** Cecilia is one of two options who will ''always'' agree to marry you, regardless of how much affection she has for you. Her "loveless" proposal reveals that she turned down her arranged marriage because (ironically) she believes marriage should be for love, and asks if she could maybe stay by your side forever, since you've always been so kind to her. She can say this even if you've never interacted with her[[note]] if you opted out of meeting the townsfolk at the beginning of the game and slept through the year[[/note]]. It's hard to replay the game and marry someone else with the knowledge that she's always going to turn down her shot at marriage for the player, ending up alone and jaded if the player doesn't marry her.
** There's something almost sad about Nami's history. She's a [[TheDrifter drifter]] with a MysteriousPast, including an implied bad relationship with her parents. Her father calls the inn in one heart scene, but doesn't even bother to speak to her. In the same scene she gets a letter telling her she's being cut off, making her immediately ask Tei and then the player for a job--even if you say sure, she'll say to forget she asked. Her loveless reverse proposal[[note]]Where you have at least six hearts, but never saw any romantic scenes with her.[[/note]] has her telling the player she's run out of money and will have to leave--but she ''really'' doesn't want to and asks to move in with you, saying she won't have to be looked after and she just wants a place to call home. And if you [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential reject her proposal]], she'll sadly say that she'd thought she could count on you and she had a good run there before walking out.
** Cecilia is one of two options who will ''always'' agree to marry you, regardless of how much affection she has for you. Her "loveless" proposal reveals that she turned down her arranged marriage because (ironically) she believes marriage should be for love, and asks if she could maybe stay by your side forever, since you've always been so kind to her. She can say this even if you've never interacted with her[[note]] if you opted out of meeting the townsfolk at the beginning of the game and slept through the year[[/note]]. It's hard to replay the game and marry someone else with the knowledge that she's always going to turn down her shot at marriage for the player, ending up alone and jaded if the player doesn't marry her.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Rock. Either he's seen as a {{Jerkass}} LazyBum who mooches off his family--and ''you'' if you marry him--hurts Lumina's feelings, and never grows up, or he's a hidden gem of a partner who just doesn't know how to communicate with people, but matures as marriage and parenthood grounds him. Doesn't help that older games such as ''Harvest Moon DS / DS Cute'') paint him in a bad light, with Rock in that version still flirting with the player character after they're ''married''.
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** Rock. Either he's seen as a {{Jerkass}} LazyBum who mooches off his family--and ''you'' if you marry him--hurts Lumina's feelings, and never grows up, or he's a hidden gem of a partner who just doesn't know how to communicate with people,but matures is using attempts at confidence to mask insecurities about his past, with him maturing once he has something to live for as marriage and parenthood grounds him. Doesn't help that older games such as ''Harvest Moon DS / DS Cute'') paint him in a bad light, with Rock AWL Rock's descendant Romeo (confusingly also called "Rock" by Natsume) in that version still flirting with the player character after they're ''married''. ''married''.
** Matthew. As with Rock, it's hard to find someone with a neutral opinion on him. Either he's a rude {{Jerkass}} being overprotective and controlling towards Cecilia, or he's just shy and awkward but has a heart of gold once you get to know him. Worsened by the remake making both him and Cecilia romancable, making him alternate sharply between being gruff but kind and berating the player if you befriend both of them.
** Rock. Either he's seen as a {{Jerkass}} LazyBum who mooches off his family--and ''you'' if you marry him--hurts Lumina's feelings, and never grows up, or he's a hidden gem of a partner who just doesn't know how to communicate with people,
** Matthew. As with Rock, it's hard to find someone with a neutral opinion on him. Either he's a rude {{Jerkass}} being overprotective and controlling towards Cecilia, or he's just shy and awkward but has a heart of gold once you get to know him. Worsened by the remake making both him and Cecilia romancable, making him alternate sharply between being gruff but kind and berating the player if you befriend both of them.
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** Molly was embraced by many queer players as well, with many who grew up playing ANWL yearning to romance her as Pony due to how [[HoYay intimate her lines towards Pony are]], and the heartbreak of watching her mourn her unluckiness in love chapter after chapter.
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** How one feels about the redesigned bachelors, Matthew (formerly Marlin) in particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original games. Some fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes, while others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out from the more {{Bishonen}} bachelor designs in later games.
** Some fans have expressed disappointment upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat (such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, Murray being replaced with the more well kempt and positive Pui, and Takakura's tattoos being removed) has also displeased fans of the original.
** The teddy bear that can activate certain scenes with your child now costs an over-the-top 1 million gold. It was a mere 1200 before.
** Some fans have expressed disappointment upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat (such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, Murray being replaced with the more well kempt and positive Pui, and Takakura's tattoos being removed) has also displeased fans of the original.
** The teddy bear that can activate certain scenes with your child now costs an over-the-top 1 million gold. It was a mere 1200 before.
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** How one feels about the redesigned bachelors, Matthew (formerly Marlin) in particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original games. Some fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes, eyes rather than eccentric characters that were never designed to be romanced, while others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out from the more {{Bishonen}} bachelor designs in later games.
** Some fans have expressed disappointment upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors [[RealIsBrown suited the atmosphere of the gamebetter. and its plot better]]. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat (such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, dying if neglected, the cartoon-iness of some animals, scruffy homeless Murray being replaced with the more well kempt well-kempt and positive forest-like Pui, and Takakura's tattoos being removed) has also displeased fans of the original.
** The teddy bear that can activate certain scenes with your child now costs an over-the-top1 [[GoldSink one million gold. gold]]. It was a mere 1200 before.before, and if not obtained during the chapters those scenes are in, then it's PermanentlyMissableContent.
** Some fans have expressed disappointment upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors [[RealIsBrown suited the atmosphere of the game
** The teddy bear that can activate certain scenes with your child now costs an over-the-top
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Rock. Either he's seen as a {{Jerkass}} LazyBum who mooches off his family--and ''you'' if you marry him--who hurts Lumina's feelings and never grows up, or he's a hidden gem of a partner who matures as marriage and parenthood grounds him. Doesn't help that older games (or future set, in the case of ''Harvest Moon DS / DS Cute'') paint him in a bad light, with him still flirting with the player character after they're ''married''.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Rock. Either he's seen as a {{Jerkass}} LazyBum who mooches off his family--and ''you'' if you marry him--who hurts him--hurts Lumina's feelings feelings, and never grows up, or he's a hidden gem of a partner who just doesn't know how to communicate with people, but matures as marriage and parenthood grounds him. Doesn't help that older games (or future set, in the case of such as ''Harvest Moon DS / DS Cute'') paint him in a bad light, with him Rock in that version still flirting with the player character after they're ''married''.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Rock. Either he's seen as a {{Jerkass}} LazyBum who mooches off his family--and ''you'' if you marry him--who hurts Lumina's feelings and never grows up, or he's a hidden gem of a partner who matures as marriage and parenthood grounds him. Doesn't help that older games (or future set, in the case of ''Harvest Moon DS / DS Cute'') paint him in a bad light, with him still flirting with the player character after they're ''married''.
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* BetterOffSold:
** Golden produce or byproducts, such as golden sheep wool or golden eggs. Some characters--like Molly--have the items as a liked or loved gift, and the eggs can be cooked with same as normal eggs, but their value means you're better selling or shipping them.
** Golden items dug out of the dig site. While they can be given as gifts, they're worth a thousand gold minimally, so they're better sold to Van to earn money when cheaper gifts are available.
** Golden produce or byproducts, such as golden sheep wool or golden eggs. Some characters--like Molly--have the items as a liked or loved gift, and the eggs can be cooked with same as normal eggs, but their value means you're better selling or shipping them.
** Golden items dug out of the dig site. While they can be given as gifts, they're worth a thousand gold minimally, so they're better sold to Van to earn money when cheaper gifts are available.
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** The game not only allows the player to marry any of the eight love interests, allowing for same-sex marriage (including a child), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary using pronouns. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
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** The game not only allows the player to marry any of the eight love interests, allowing for same-sex marriage (including a child), child between you and your spouse), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary using pronouns. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
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** The teddy bear that can activate certain scenes with your child now costs an over-the-top 1 million gold. It was a mere 1200 before.
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* TheWoobie: There's something almost sad about Nami's history. She's a [[TheDrifter drifter]] with a MysteriousPast, including an implied bad relationship with her parents. Her father calls the inn in one heart scene, but doesn't even bother to speak to her. In the same scene she gets a letter telling her she's being cut off, making her immediately ask Tei and then the player for a job--even if you say sure, she'll say to forget she asked. Her loveless reverse proposal[[note]]Where you have at least six hearts, but never saw any romantic scenes with her.[[/note]] has her telling the player she's run out of money and will have to leave--but she ''really'' doesn't want to and asks to move in with you, saying she won't have to be looked after and she just wants a place to call home. And if you [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential reject her proposal]], she'll sadly say that she'd thought she could count on you and she had a good run there before walking out.
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** {{Tomboy}}ish Nami is very popular with queer players owing to her BoyishShortHair and never changing in later chapters into anything more "dressy" or ladylike as the years pass, keeping her cuffed pants, t-shirts, and flannel (unlike Lumina ([[spoiler:who [[ExpositoryHairstyleChange cuts her hair to her chin]] and wears a dress after chapter 1)]]. A lot of queer players in older versions of the games eagerly pursued her as "Mark" to imply a same-sex marriage best they could, and she's still highly popular for same sex marriage now that it exists. She can even be interpreted as nonbinary or genderfluid.
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** {{Tomboy}}ish Nami is very popular with queer players owing to her BoyishShortHair and never changing in later chapters into anything more "dressy" or ladylike as the years pass, keeping her cuffed pants, t-shirts, and flannel (unlike Lumina ([[spoiler:who [[spoiler:who [[ExpositoryHairstyleChange cuts her hair to her chin]] and wears a dress after chapter Chapter 1)]]. A lot of queer players in older versions of the games eagerly pursued her as "Mark" to imply a same-sex marriage best they could, and she's still highly popular for same sex marriage now that it exists. She can even be interpreted as nonbinary or genderfluid.
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** {{Tomboy}}ish Nami is very popular with queer players owing to her BoyishShortHair, wearing pants and never changing to anything more "girly" in later chapters into anything more "dressy" or ladylike as the years pass, keeping her cuffed pants, t-shirts, and flannel (unlike Lumina ([[spoiler:who [[ExpositoryHairstyleChange cuts her hair to her chin]] and wears a dress after chapter 1)]]. A lot of queer players in older versions of the games eagerly pursued her as "Mark" to imply a same-sex marriage best they could, and she's still highly popular for same sex marriage now that it exists. She can even be interpreted as nonbinary or genderfluid.
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** {{Tomboy}}ish Nami is very popular with queer players owing to her BoyishShortHair, wearing pants BoyishShortHair and never changing to anything more "girly" in later chapters into anything more "dressy" or ladylike as the years pass, keeping her cuffed pants, t-shirts, and flannel (unlike Lumina ([[spoiler:who [[ExpositoryHairstyleChange cuts her hair to her chin]] and wears a dress after chapter 1)]]. A lot of queer players in older versions of the games eagerly pursued her as "Mark" to imply a same-sex marriage best they could, and she's still highly popular for same sex marriage now that it exists. She can even be interpreted as nonbinary or genderfluid.
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* LGBTFanbase: The game not only allows the player to marry any of the eight love interests, allowing for same-sex marriage (including a child), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary using pronouns. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
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** The game not only allows the player to marry any of the eight love interests, allowing for same-sex marriage (including a child), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary using pronouns. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a niceoption.option.
** {{Tomboy}}ish Nami is very popular with queer players owing to her BoyishShortHair, wearing pants and never changing to anything more "girly" in later chapters into anything more "dressy" or ladylike as the years pass, keeping her cuffed pants, t-shirts, and flannel (unlike Lumina ([[spoiler:who [[ExpositoryHairstyleChange cuts her hair to her chin]] and wears a dress after chapter 1)]]. A lot of queer players in older versions of the games eagerly pursued her as "Mark" to imply a same-sex marriage best they could, and she's still highly popular for same sex marriage now that it exists. She can even be interpreted as nonbinary or genderfluid.
** The game not only allows the player to marry any of the eight love interests, allowing for same-sex marriage (including a child), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary using pronouns. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice
** {{Tomboy}}ish Nami is very popular with queer players owing to her BoyishShortHair, wearing pants and never changing to anything more "girly" in later chapters into anything more "dressy" or ladylike as the years pass, keeping her cuffed pants, t-shirts, and flannel (unlike Lumina ([[spoiler:who [[ExpositoryHairstyleChange cuts her hair to her chin]] and wears a dress after chapter 1)]]. A lot of queer players in older versions of the games eagerly pursued her as "Mark" to imply a same-sex marriage best they could, and she's still highly popular for same sex marriage now that it exists. She can even be interpreted as nonbinary or genderfluid.
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** How one would feel feels about the redesigned bachelors, Matthew (formerly Marlin) in particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original game. games. Some fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes, while others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out from the more {{Bishonen}} bachelor designs in later games.
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* AlternativeJokeInterpretation: The line about phantom thieves in the curry recipe was most likely meant to be a reference to Skye in ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonDSCute'', but many players online thought it was a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' reference.
* LGBTFanbase: The game not only allows the player to marry either gendered love interest, allowing for same-sex marriage (including a child), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
* LGBTFanbase: The game not only allows the player to marry either gendered love interest, allowing for same-sex marriage (including a child), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
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* AlternativeJokeInterpretation: The line about phantom thieves in the curry recipe was most likely meant to be a reference to Skye in from ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonDSCute'', but many players online thought it was a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' reference.
* LGBTFanbase: The game not only allows the player to marryeither gendered any of the eight love interest, interests, allowing for same-sex marriage (including a child), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary.non-binary using pronouns. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
* LGBTFanbase: The game not only allows the player to marry
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** How one would feel about the redesigned bachelors, Marlin[=/=]Matthew in particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original game. Some fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes, while others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out from the more {{Bishonen}} designs in later games.
** Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat, such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, Murray being replaced with the more well kempt and positive Pui, and Takakura's tattoos being removed has also displeased fans of the original.
** Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat, such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, Murray being replaced with the more well kempt and positive Pui, and Takakura's tattoos being removed has also displeased fans of the original.
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** How one would feel about the redesigned bachelors, Marlin[=/=]Matthew Matthew (formerly Marlin) in particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original game. Some fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes, while others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out from the more {{Bishonen}} designs in later games.
** Some fans have expresseddisappointed disappointment upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat, such somewhat (such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, Murray being replaced with the more well kempt and positive Pui, and Takakura's tattoos being removed removed) has also displeased fans of the original.
** Some fans have expressed
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* AlternativeJokeInterpretation: The line about phantom thieves in the curry recipe was most likely meant to be a reference to ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonDSCute'', but many players online thought it was a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' reference.
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* AlternativeJokeInterpretation: The line about phantom thieves in the curry recipe was most likely meant to be a reference to Skye in ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonDSCute'', but many players online thought it was a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' reference.
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* AlternativeJokeInterpretation: The line about phantom thieves in the curry recipe was most likely meant to be a reference to ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonDSCute'', but many players online thought it was a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' reference.
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** Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat, such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, and Takakura's tattoos being removed has also displeased fans of the original.
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** Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat, such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, Murray being replaced with the more well kempt and positive Pui, and Takakura's tattoos being removed has also displeased fans of the original.
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** Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better.
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** Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better.
better. The content being LighterAndSofter and sanitized somewhat, such as the bar being changed to a cafe, animals no longer dying, and Takakura's tattoos being removed has also displeased fans of the original.
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We're not supposed to add any Broken Base entries until at least six months after the work's release. Otherwise it's just a typical disagreement within fandom. Moving the example to They Changed It Now It Sucks since that's probably more fitting for the time being.
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* BrokenBase: How one would feel about the redesigned bachelors, Marlin[=/=]Matthew in particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original game. Some fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes, while others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out from the more {{Bishonen}} designs in later games.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** How one would feel about the redesigned bachelors, Marlin[=/=]Matthew in particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original game. Some fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes, while others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out from the more {{Bishonen}} designs in later games.
** Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better.
** How one would feel about the redesigned bachelors, Marlin[=/=]Matthew in particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original game. Some fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes, while others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out from the more {{Bishonen}} designs in later games.
** Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better.
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** One of the most contentious changes in the Friends of Mineral Town remake was how drastic the redesigns were. Making many of the characters almost unrecognizable. The new designs for this game was kept to a minimum with only a few characters with a new design.
** Lumina, who was PromotedToLoveInterest, is now significantly taller. Making her appear to be older, whereas her previous appearances used her previous, non-love-interest models where she looked too young to be a bachelorette.
** One of the most contentious changes in the Friends of Mineral Town remake was how drastic the redesigns were. Making many of the characters almost unrecognizable. The new designs for this game was kept to a minimum with only a few characters with a new design.
** Lumina, who was PromotedToLoveInterest, is now significantly taller. Making her appear to be older, whereas her previous appearances used her previous, non-love-interest models where she looked too young to be a bachelorette.
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* LGBTFanbase: The game not only allows the player to marry either gendered love interest, allowing for same-sex marriage (including [[HasTwoMommies a child]]), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
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* LGBTFanbase: The game not only allows the player to marry either gendered love interest, allowing for same-sex marriage (including [[HasTwoMommies a child]]), child), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
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** One of the most contentious changes in the Friends of Mineral Town remake was how drastic the redesigns were. Making many of the characters almost unrecognizable. The new designs for this game was kept to a minimum with only a few characters with a nee design.
** Lumina, who was PromotedToLoveInterest, is now significantly taller. Making her appear to be older where her prior design made her look too young to be a bachelorette.
** Lumina, who was PromotedToLoveInterest, is now significantly taller. Making her appear to be older where her prior design made her look too young to be a bachelorette.
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** One of the most contentious changes in the Friends of Mineral Town remake was how drastic the redesigns were. Making many of the characters almost unrecognizable. The new designs for this game was kept to a minimum with only a few characters with a nee new design.
** Lumina, who was PromotedToLoveInterest, is now significantly taller. Making her appear to beolder older, whereas her previous appearances used her previous, non-love-interest models where her prior design made her look she looked too young to be a bachelorette. bachelorette.
** Lumina, who was PromotedToLoveInterest, is now significantly taller. Making her appear to be
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** One of the most contentious changes in the Friends of Mineral Town remake was how drastic the redesigns were. Making many of the characters almost unrecognizable. The new designs for this game was kept to a minimum with only a few characters with a nee design.
** Lumina, who was PromotedToLoveInterest, is now significantly taller. Making her appear to be older where her prior design made her look too young to be a bachelorette.
* BrokenBase: How one would feel about the redesigned bachelors, Marlin[=/=]Matthew inparticular , particular, depends on how one felt about their designs in the original game. Some prefer fans welcome the new designs for being more attractive and easier on the eyes eyes, while other others preferred the older designs because of their unconventionality that made them stand out.out from the more {{Bishonen}} designs in later games.
** One of the most contentious changes in the Friends of Mineral Town remake was how drastic the redesigns were. Making many of the characters almost unrecognizable. The new designs for this game was kept to a minimum with only a few characters with a nee design.
** Lumina, who was PromotedToLoveInterest, is now significantly taller. Making her appear to be older where her prior design made her look too young to be a bachelorette.
* BrokenBase: How one would feel about the redesigned bachelors, Marlin[=/=]Matthew in
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* LGBTFanbase: The game not only allows the player to marry either gendered love interest, allowing for same-sex marriage (including [[HasTwoMommies a child]]), it also lets player opt to officially designate their character as male, female, or non-binary. Said gender identity doesn't explicitly add anything to the game, but the representation is a nice option.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some fans have expressed disappointed upon screenshots being revealed of the brighter colors the remake uses, citing that the less vibrant, more somber colors suited the atmosphere of the game better.
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