History YMMV / MulanII

* JerkassHasAPoint: Mushu this go around is a huge jackass who tries to split Mulan and Shang up to keep his pedestal, but he's also not entirely wrong -- the pair are very different people with very different priorities in matters personal (Shang wants lots of children, Mulan does not) and professional (their biggest clash, over the mission, isn't even Mushu's doing). They've also only been seeing one another for a month.

* {{Anvilicious}}: Arranged marriages are bad. Always. This film hammers that message home repeatedly throughout the film.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Yao, Ling, and Chien Po's suddenly becoming charming, gentle, chivalrous, sensitive, and otherwise ''perfect'' boyfriends to the princess, especially after acting so rude earlier to other girls (and guys) during their song, begs several questions about how it came about and whether or not it was sincere. Did Mulan call them out for it offscreen?[[note]] Unlikely, since she just grins enthusiastically at them after encountering the aftermath of their little jaunt through town with no sign of disapproval or even awareness of their sentiments and actions, but it's possible.[[/note]] Did the fear, disgust, and in general "not-having-it" reactions of the townsfolk get through to them a short time later? Or, for a more cynical interpretation, are they only treating the princesses better because they're royalty? Or, for the even ''more'' cynical, are they just turning up the charm for the girls because...well...girls? Keep in mind that only the first three days of their relationship with the princesses is shown.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Yao, Ling, and Chien Po's suddenly becoming charming, gentle, chivalrous, sensitive, and otherwise ''perfect'' boyfriends to the princess, especially after acting so rude earlier to other girls (and guys) during their song, begs several questions about how it came about and whether or not it was sincere. Did Mulan call them out for it offscreen?[[note]] Unlikely, since she just grins enthusiastically at them after encountering the aftermath of their little jaunt through town with no sign of disapproval or even awareness of their sentiments and actions, but it's possible[[/note]] Did the fear, disgust, and in general "not-having-it" reactions of the townsfolk get through to them a short time later? Or, for a more cynical interpretation, are they only treating the princesses better because they're royalty? Or, for the even ''more'' cynical, are they just turning up the charm for the girls because...well...girls? Keep in mind that only the first three days of their relationship with the princesses is shown.

** The Mongols becoming the new threat to China could have made for a decent action story, but instead, the plot is about Mulan and Shang escorting three of the Emperor's daughters to Ki Gong for their arranged marriage.

* JerkassHasAPoint: Mushu this go around is an intolerable jackass who tries to split Mulan and Shang up to keep his pedestal, but he's also not entirely wrong -- the pair are very different people with very different priorities in matters personal (Shang wants lots of children, Mulan does not) and professional (their biggest clash, over the mission, isn't even Mushu's doing). They've also only been seeing one another for a month.

* JerkassHasAPoint: Mushu this go around is an intolerable jackass who tries to split Mulan and Shang up to keep his pedestal, but he's also not entirely wrong -- the pair are very different people with very different priorities in matters personal (Shang wants lots of children, Mulan does not) and professional(their biggest clash, over the mission, isn't even Mushu's doing). They've also only been seeing one another for a month.

* EsotericHappyEnding: While the princesses got to marry the ones they love, they needed to marry the Kingdom's princes to bolster their forces for the oncoming invasion. Not marrying them would cause a lot of chaos. Granted, it's implied that Mushu impersonating the Unity Dragon nullified that issue, but in any other situation, these decisions would mean China is doomed.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans were extremely disappointed when Eddie Murphy didn't reprise the role of Mushu, sticking out because ''everyone else'' did come back. That's one reason many fans ignore the sequel.

* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: One of the few aspects of the film all fans like is having unusually good animation as far as Disney sequels go.

* HilariousInHindsight: After Mulan and Shang argue, one of the things that Mushu suggests is for Mulan to "burn his letters". Twelve years after the sequel was released, Lea Salonga, the singing voice for Mulan, would do a cover of "[[Theatre/{{Hamilton}} Burn]]", which revolves around a woman burning letters to her husband because his actions put a strain on their relationship.

* ContestedSequel: It either reinforces the morals of the original or ruins the characters of the original.

* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Blog/UnshavedMouse called out "My duty is to my heart" as both an immoral and an out-of-character lesson for Mulan to teach.
-->Mulan’s duty isn’t to her heart, it’s to her DUTY! GAWD. Anyway, Mei is quite happy to learn that the morally right thing to do is always the thing that you want to do (that is the gist of what she’s saying, we all get that?) and runs off to infect her sisters.

** The Prince of Qigong constantly fiddling with a Chinese handcuff. His other manchild antics make him impossible to take seriously.

* NeverLiveItDown: Between Mushu becoming an even bigger jerkass here than in the previous film, and the unresolved matter of creating the alliance to save China due to the princesses being released from their commitment to marry, many saw this sequel as misguided and unfaithful to the original film.
* TheScrappy: Regardless whether or not someone enjoyed Mushu in the first movie, they'll most likely hate him here, as he spends most of the film trying to drive a wedge between Mulan and Shang for entirely selfish reasons; no longer being voiced by the beloved Creator/EddieMurphy didn't help his case either.

** [[https://memestatic1.fjcdn.com/comments/I+like+this+one+_f9cf1f58fe5d0d8b082de140d418d029.jpg The expression Shang makes during his argument with Mulan, like [[WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeastBellesMagicalWorld Belle's fish-eyed expression]], has become infamous due to how {{Narm}}y it looks for a Disney film.

* FanonDiscontinuity: For those who feel the first film was perfect and needed no sequel, especially since it rather undermines the original in many ways.

*** Compounding this is Mulan offering her own hand in marriage to see the alliance through; as Doug Walker pointed out, despite being a war hero Mulan hardly carries the political sway of the ''Emperor's three daughters'', and that she doesn't own anything of value, land or otherwise, to offer to the alliance. That said, it's hard to imagine how Mulan hoped to deter the Mongols through her union with the prince of Qigong.

* UnfortunateImplications: Yao, Ling, and Chien Po's relationship's with the princesses, for a couple different reasons:
** For starters, the movie shows that they have learned absolutely ''nothing'' from their close friendship with Mulan and despite her being fully responsible for them becoming war heroes, as seen when they go to the matchmaker and ask her of the following: Ling wants a girl who will treat him like a god, Yao wants a girl who will worship the ground he walks on and Chien Po wants a girl who will cook for him morning, noon, and night (Basically a servant except without pay) they then sing a song about how they ''deserve'' women like this because they saved China (never mind that their role essentially sums up to following someone else's plan serving as her back up muscle), all while stalking and harassing girls around town, before starting a fight in a bar for no real reason except they were upset with their failures. The movie then forgets this incident entirely and they never are shown learning from this or growing from it.
*** Ling, after hearing that Yao and Mei shared a "cosmic moment" [[note]]As Yao put it[[/note]] and ''outright telling Yao that he didn't think that romancing Mei was right because they weren't allowed to fraternize with the princesses'' seems to forget this sage advice almost immediately, as he is soon after seen attempting to woo princess Ting-Ting through the corniest, unfunniest jokes possible; he seems to think that if you can make a girl laugh, then that means that she will automatically be smitten with you. Despite Ting-Ting showing no interest in him whatsoever (and sending many signals that she desperately wants to be left alone)Ling persists in his endeavors, seemingly irritating and frightening her immensely. But then, just as Ling seems to ''finally'' have gotten the idea that Ting-Ting wants ''absolutely nothing to do with him'', an accident with a firecracker leads to her revealing the true reason she wasn't laughing herself to tears over his incredibly lame jokes: She has a laugh that sounds funny. Ling tells her it's adorable, they bond over their shared fondness of stealing chopsticks and sticking them up their noses, and from that scene onward Ting-Ting is as smitten with him as the other princesses are with their love-interests. Leading one to think that the moral of Ling's arc truly is, if you can make a girl laugh, even once, even completely by accident, she will be smitten with you and be your girlfriend despite any previous reservations she may have had.
*** Yao and Mei's relationship has age as its problem: While neither character has a defined age, there's the fact that Mei looks, at minimum, to be in her early to mid teens [[note]]Her innocence and childlike mannerisms do ''not'' help[[/note]] and Yao could easily pass for his early to mid-thirties Mei fawns over him exactly how you would expect from a naïve, infatuated teenager, and Yao, who is almost definitely an adult and should know better, laps up her affection with barely any reservations. Both treat it has real love, despite barely knowing each other. For some people it comes across as rather icky.

** [[https://memestatic1.fjcdn.com/comments/I+like+this+one+_f9cf1f58fe5d0d8b082de140d418d029.jpg The expression Shang makes during his argument with Mulan, like [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeastBellesMagicalWorld Belle's fish-eyed expression]], has become infamous due to how {{Narm}}y it looks for a Disney film.

* {{Sequelitis}}: ''Mulan II'' is often considered to be one of the strongest contenders for one of the worst, if not the absolute worst, Disney sequels next to ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeastBellesMagicalWorld'', ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameII'' and ''Disney/CinderellaIIDreamsComeTrue''. While the movie is decently-animated, it is ultimately overlooked and criticized for the even greater liberties taken in its portrayal of Chinese culture, Mushu [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a level in jerkass]], and for leaving the plot in which Mulan must save China unresolved. The sequel earned a 0% rating on Rotten Tomatoes[[note]]but no consensus listed, as the website hasn't accumulated enough reviews to form one[[/note]], and it didn't take long after that for John Lasseter to unplug the DTV sequel machine. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ctVjc3aZnA trailer]] for the 2013 Blu-ray debut of both ''Mulan'' movies contains no clips from ''Mulan II''.

* {{Sequelitis}}: ''Mulan II'' is often considered to be one of the strongest contenders for one of the worst, if not the absolute worst, Disney sequels next to ''Disney/BellesMagicalWorld'', ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameII'' and ''Disney/CinderellaIIDreamsComeTrue''. While the movie is decently-animated, it is ultimately overlooked and criticized for the even greater liberties taken in its portrayal of Chinese culture, Mushu [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a level in jerkass]], and for leaving the plot in which Mulan must save China unresolved. The sequel earned a 0% rating on Rotten Tomatoes[[note]]but no consensus listed, as the website hasn't accumulated enough reviews to form one[[/note]], and it didn't take long after that for John Lasseter to unplug the DTV sequel machine. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ctVjc3aZnA trailer]] for the 2013 Blu-ray debut of both ''Mulan'' movies contains no clips from ''Mulan II''.

*** Yao and Mei's relationship has age as its problem: While neither character has a defined age, there's the fact that Mei looks, at minimum, to be in her early to mid teens [[note]]Her innocence and childlike mannerisms do ''not'' help[[/note]] and Yao could easily pass for his early to mid-thirties Mei fawns over him exactly how you would expect from a naïve, infatuated teenager, and Yao, who is almost definitely an adult and should know better, laps up her affection with barely any reservations. Both treat it has real love, despite barely knowing eachother. For some people it comes across as rather icky.

* DesignatedHero: Mulan tries to talk three princesses out of an arranged marriage, forgetting that it's happening in the first place to prevent a Mongol invasion of China, meaning that she's endangering the lives of millions of innocent people by doing this, shaming the Emperor, his daughters, and herself, and the soldiers who run off with them. Made worse by the fact that one princess ''does'' want to stick to duty, but Mulan is still absolutely insistent on breaking that promise. While [[VillainProtagonist Mushu]]'s behavior is also disliked, at least he's ''supposed'' to be in the wrong.

* MemeticMutation: "spicy!" "yes" [[labelnote:explanation]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbnv37AHpvc A two-second excerpt]] of the scene that highlights the differences between Mulan and Shang ("Blue!" "Pink!" "Mild!" "Spicy!" "Yes!" "No!") while they're discussing their eventual marriage with the townspeople, originally posted on Tumblr, became inexplicably hilarious out of context.[[/labelnote]]

UncannyValley: Shang's over the top facial expressions during his argument with Mulan are either unsettling or hilarious to look at.