History YMMV / Lunar

* NarmCharm: The ham and cheese voice acting in the Working Designs games, while unacceptable by today's dubbing standards, is beloved by a lot of fans. John Truitt's Ghaleon, easily the second hammiest character in the series after Leo, is especially fondly remembered.

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: It can be ''really,'' '''''really''''' hard for people who got into video gaming in at the turn of the millenium or so to get what the big deal with these games is, and can't really grok the ''massive'' leap in production value and narrative complexity that the games represented in their original release (to say nothing of the fact that their anime artstyle was very unique in the West, when they were first released). Nowadays, the plot elements involved are old hat and animesque games are a dime a dozen, so ''Lunar''[='=]s significance can be hard for contemporary gamers to grasp. The sheer amount of traditionally animated 2D cutscenes in the remakes still stand out, however. Most modern JRPGs will have a 2d opening theme at best.

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: It can be ''really,'' '''''really''''' hard for people who got into video gaming in at the turn of the millenium or so to get what the big deal with these games is, and can't really grok the ''massive'' leap in production value and narrative complexity that the games represented in their original release (to say nothing of the fact that their anime artstyle was very unique in the West, when they were first released). Nowadays, the plot elements involved are old hat and animesque games are a dime a dozen, so ''Lunar''[='=]s significance can be hard for contemporary gamers to grasp.

** In the ''Childhood's End'' manga, [[spoiler:Xenobia]] says that "Ghaleon-sama's heart always held dear only one person... a human male..." alongside an image of Dyne. They're quite close in the ''Airship of Vane'' manga, and the final pages, taking place after [[spoiler:Dyne's apparent death]], say that Ghaleon 'will never recover from the wounds on his heart' before showing Dyne's WeaponTombstone. A good amount of Ghaleon's FreudianExcuse is his belief that Althena not only abandoned the world, but caused Dyne's death to achieve it, and Ghaleon's [[VideoGame/LunarEternalBlue last words]] are to Dyne, musing that the young heroes "shine with your light."

** In the ''Childhood's End'' manga, [[spoiler:Xenobia]] says that "Ghaleon-sama's heart always held dear only one person... a human male..." alongside an image of Dyne. They're quite close in the ''Airship of Vane'' manga, and the final pages, taking place after [[spoiler:Dyne's apparent death]], say that Ghaleon 'will never recover from the wounds on his heart' before showing Dyne's WeaponTombstone.

** In the ''Childhood's End'' manga, [[spoiler:Xenobia]] says that "Ghaleon-sama's heart always held dear only one person... a human male..." alongside an image of Dyne. They're quite close in the ''Airship of Vane'' manga and the final pages, taking place after [[spoiler:Dyne's apparent death]], says that Ghaleon 'will never recover from the wounds on his heart' before showing Dyne's WeaponTombstone.

* CanonFodder: What happened to [[spoiler:Nall]] in the thousand years between the two games. It doesn't help that one interview with Kubooka outright stated that he went on an adventure "rivaling the war on the Magic Emperor".

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: It can be ''really,'' '''''really''''' hard for people who got into video gaming in at the turn of the millenium or so to get what the big deal with these games is, and can't really grok the ''massive'' leap in production value and narrative complexity that the games represented in their original release (to say nothing of the fact that their anime artstyle was very unique in the West, when they were first released). These games even introduced the EvilAlbino to most Western gamers, ''Final Fantasy VII''! Nowadays, the plot elements involved are old hat and animesque games are a dime a dozen, so ''Lunar''[='=]s significance can be hard for contemporary gamers to grasp.

* HoYay: It's sparse, though not absent. The Working Designs versions of ''Lunar 2'' make a RunningGag of Ruby willfully misinterpreting Leo's attempts to get Hiro to join him as come-ons. Also, some have managed to interpret Dyne and Ghaleon's friendship as a bit more than friendship.

* OlderThanTheyThink: More people are probably familiar with the [=PlayStation=] versions of the two games, without knowing that they were actually playing a ''remake'' of two Sega CD games -- made at least ''two'' years before the [=PlayStation=] was released. (Heck, if you were to go by Japanese release dates... the first ''Lunar'' remake was at most year before ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', same with the [[NoExportForYou Sega Saturn]] version.)

* ScrappyMechanic: Among ''Dragon Song's'' problems was the fact that running ''drained health''. If you can get past that, you'll eventually face wave after wave of enemies that can break your equipment. Not fun.
** There's also the fact that you can't choose which enemy you attack, the game having each character's A.I. choose their target instead and taking much of the strategy out of the player's hands. Not to mention Combat and Virtue modes, which boils down to having to choose between getting XP from a fight or items. Really, much of the combat system suffers from the designers overcomplicating even the simplest, most basic RPG mechanics.

* WhatAnIdiot: A minor example. Luna, ocarinas and ''string instruments'' sound nothing alike.

** In the ''Childhood's End'' manga, [[spoiler:Xenobia]] says that "Ghaleon-sama's heart always held dear only one person... a human male..." alongside an image of Dyne. They're quite close in the ''Airship of Vane'' manga and the final pages, taking place after [[spoiler:Dyne and Althena's "death"]], says that Ghaleon 'will never recover from the wounds on his heart' before showing Dyne's WeaponTombstone.

** It's even less subtle in the ''Childhood's End'' manga, where [[spoiler:Xenobia]] states outright that "Ghaleon-sama's heart always held dear only one person... a human male..." In the same frame, there's a faded outline of Dyne. Combining that with the intro to ''Silver Star Harmony'', which hints at Dyne/Althena as a GenerationXerox of Alex/Luna and shows that Gheleon is quite devoted to his goddess creates an OT3. [[spoiler:Xenobia's]] still out of luck, though.

* NeedsMoreLove: ''Lunar: Eternal Blue''. ''The Silver Star'' has been remade ''three'' times and ''Silver Star Story'' even got a (Japan and South Korean-only) Windows PC port, while ''Eternal Blue'' only got one remake on the [=PlayStation=]. While you can still find it if you look hard enough, those ''Eternal Blue Complete'' [=CD=]s aren't gonna last forever!

* NeedsMoreLove: Lunar 2. ''Silver Star'' has been remade ''three times'', while ''Eternal Blue'' only got one remake on the PS1. While you can still find it if you look hard enough, those EB Complete CD's aren't gonna last forever!
* OlderThanTheyThink: More people are probably familiar with the Playstation versions of the two games, without knowing that they were actually playing a ''remake'' of two Sega CD games - made at least ''two'' years before the Playstation was released. (Heck, if you were to go by Japanese release dates...the first Lunar remake was at most year before Final Fantasy VII, same with the [[NoExportForYou Sega Saturn version]].)

** There's also the fact that you can't choose which enemy you attack, the game having each character's AI choose their target instead and taking much of the strategy out of the player's hands. Not to mention Combat and Virtue modes, which boils down to having to choose between getting XP from a fight or items. Really, much of the combat system suffers from the designers overcomplicating even the simplest, most basic RPG mechanics.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: It can be ''really,'' '''''really''''' hard for people who got into videogaming in at the turn of the millenium or so to get what the big deal with these games is, and can't really grok the ''massive'' leap in production value and narrative complexity that the games represented in their original release (to say nothing of the fact that their anime artstyle was very unique in the West, when they were first released). These games even introduced the EvilAlbino to most Western gamers, FFS! Nowadays, the plot elements involved are old hat and animesque games are a dime a dozen, so ''Lunar''[='=]s significance can be hard for contemporary gamers to grasp.

* {{Woolseyism}}: WorkingDesigns ratcheted up the humor in the process of localization. The concentration of FourthWall jokes and {{Shout Out}}s in the Working Designs versions comes close to taking the games out of {{Troperiffic}} zone and into the AffectionateParody zone. [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Not everyone ]][[{{Macekre}} liked the jokes]], though.

* TheScrappy: ''Dragon Song'' can be seen as the scrappy ''game'' in the series.

* LargeHam: The head writer and president of WorkingDesigns has been accused of not being able to distinguish between drama and melodrama, leading to an abundance of Grade A ham.

* TheScrappy: ''Dragon Song'' can be seen as the scrappy ''game'' in the series.
* ScrappyMechanic: Among ''Dragon Song's'' problems was the fact that running ''drained health''. If you can get past that, you'll eventually face wave after wave of enemies that can break your equipment. Not fun.
** There's also the fact that you can't choose which enemy you attack, the game having each character's AI choose their target instead and taking much of the strategy out of the player's hands. Not to mention Combat and Virtue modes, which boils down to having to choose between getting XP from a fight or items. Really, much of the combat system suffers from the designers overcomplicating even the simplest, most basic RPG mechanics.

** There's also the fact that you can't choose which enemy you attack, eliminating much of the strategy from the game. Not to mention the whole "Combat and Virtue" modes, meaning you had to choose between getting XP from a fight or items. Really, much of the combat system suffers from the designers overcomplicating even the simplest, most basic RPG mechanics.

* SoBadItsHorrible: The general consensus on ''Lunar: Dragon Song'' for the Nintendo DS.