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* ThatOneAttack: Ugh. So many of these. Many, many bosses have devastating full-party attacks that will likely leave you in critical health, (if not totally wipe you out) and the [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]] of [[BonusDungeon the four Towers]] use two different attacks each. Both attacks are full-party, deal a large amount of damage, ''and'' inflict a nasty status effect.

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* ThatOneAttack: Ugh. So many of these. Many, many bosses have devastating full-party attacks that will likely leave you in critical health, (if not totally wipe you out) and the [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]] bosses of [[BonusDungeon the four Towers]] use two different attacks each. Both attacks are full-party, deal a large amount of damage, ''and'' inflict a nasty status effect.

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* LowTierLetdown: Thorve and Randolph. The former is essentially the game's first "mage" character and is sort of a JackOfAllStats, but sadly a MasterOfNone. Once you get Lorenza, Thorve will most likely be benched unless Lorenza's out of the party. The latter similarly is basically a "Tank" character, which unfortunately doesn't have much of an effect in a turn-based RPG with no real draw-aggro mechanic.



* TierInducedScrappy: Thorve and Randolph are Low Tier examples. The former is essentially the game's first "mage" character and is sort of a JackOfAllStats, but sadly a MasterOfNone. Once you get Lorenza, Thorve will most likely be benched unless Lorenza's out of the party. The latter similarly is basically a "Tank" character, which unfortunately doesn't have much of an effect in a turn-based RPG with no real draw-aggro mechanic.
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** The Riftgate is more annoying than hard, being immune to both normal attacks and elemental spells. You can only damage it with the Pierce spell (which Ethan has equipped when he joins) or by using non-elemental attacks items (like the grenades that can be stollen from goblins), needless dragging on the fight.

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** The Riftgate is more annoying than hard, being immune to both normal attacks and elemental spells. You can only damage it with the Pierce Laser spell (which Ethan has equipped when he joins) or by using non-elemental attacks items (like the grenades that can be stollen from goblins), needless dragging on the fight.

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* GoddamnedBoss: The Viviones. They don't hit that hard, but there's [[WolfpackBoss five of them]], and they constantly heal and revive each other. They're [[ThatOneBoss an infuriating nightmare]] unless you [[PuzzleBoss figure out that they each only heal/revive the one directly clockwise from them and make judicious use of Mindblow]].

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* GoddamnedBoss: GoddamnedBoss:
** The Riftgate is more annoying than hard, being immune to both normal attacks and elemental spells. You can only damage it with the Pierce spell (which Ethan has equipped when he joins) or by using non-elemental attacks items (like the grenades that can be stollen from goblins), needless dragging on the fight.
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The Viviones. They don't hit that hard, but there's [[WolfpackBoss five of them]], and they constantly heal and revive each other. They're [[ThatOneBoss an infuriating nightmare]] unless you [[PuzzleBoss figure out that they each only heal/revive the one directly clockwise from them and make judicious use of Mindblow]].



** The final showdown with the Omega Team, as not only do you have to fight all three of them at once, they've all gotten at least five times stronger then they ever were. (Yes, even [[BreatherBoss Earp]])
** Also the Riftgate, what with it being completely unbeatable without spamming a certain spell that costs a truckload of MP. In a game where MP restoration items are extremely rare. [[spoiler:"This won't be enough to kill you", Zawu says. Yeah right.]]
*** The Riftgate is much easier to kill once you realise it's also vulnerable to one-use attack items that deal 'normal' damage. That includes grenades that are easily obtainable by stealing from goblins. They deal almost the same amount of damage that the spell does, but are useable by anyone without any MP cost.
** And Yad al-Jauza, who relentlessly spams you with extremely nasty full-party status effects and HP/MP draining attacks; better hope you've got the right status protection.

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** The final showdown with the Omega Team, as not only do you have to fight all three of them at once, they've all gotten at least five times stronger then they ever were. (Yes, even [[BreatherBoss Earp]])
** Also the Riftgate, what with it being completely unbeatable without spamming a certain spell that costs a truckload of MP. In a game where MP restoration items are extremely rare. [[spoiler:"This won't be enough to kill you", Zawu says. Yeah right.]]
*** The Riftgate is much easier to kill once you realise it's also vulnerable to one-use attack items that deal 'normal' damage. That includes grenades that are easily obtainable by stealing from goblins. They deal almost the same amount of damage that the spell does, but are useable by anyone without any MP cost.
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Yad al-Jauza, who relentlessly spams you with extremely nasty full-party status effects and HP/MP draining attacks; better hope you've got the right status protection.


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** The final showdown with the Omega Team in Serinal Port, as not only do you have to fight all three of them at once, they've all gotten at least five times stronger then they ever were. (Yes, even [[BreatherBoss Earp]])

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* TierInducedScrappy:
** Thorve and Randolph. Thorve is essentially the game's first "mage" character and is sort of a JackOfAllStats, but sadly a MasterOfNone. Once you get Lorenza, Thorve will most likely be benched unless Lorenza's out of the party. Randolph similarly is basically a "Tank" character. Which unfortunately doesn't have much of an effect in a turn-based RPG with no real draw-aggro mechanic.

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TierInducedScrappy: Thorve and Randolph. Thorve Randolph are Low Tier examples. The former is essentially the game's first "mage" character and is sort of a JackOfAllStats, but sadly a MasterOfNone. Once you get Lorenza, Thorve will most likely be benched unless Lorenza's out of the party. Randolph The latter similarly is basically a "Tank" character. Which character, which unfortunately doesn't have much of an effect in a turn-based RPG with no real draw-aggro mechanic.
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* FoeYay: Castor is fixated on and fascinated by Hilbert, which makes it easy to interpret him this way.
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** Castor's "Maelstrom" is also up there as one of the worst. It causes [[StandardStatusEffects Chaos, Berserk, Slow, and Petrify]] all at once while also doing a good bit of damage, and since you have to fight him several times, you'll see it a ''lot''.

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** Castor's "Maelstrom" is also up there as one of the worst. It causes [[StandardStatusEffects [[StatusEffects Chaos, Berserk, Slow, and Petrify]] all at once while also doing a good bit of damage, and since you have to fight him several times, you'll see it a ''lot''.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Pretty much every player will only use Hilbert, Matilda, Ethan, and Lorenza. ''Maybe'' Zawu instead of Matilda or Ethan. Due to the way magic works, buffs are just as effective no matter ''who'' uses them. Lorenza's the only one worth casting offensive magic with, while Matilda and Ethan all do the highest physical damage. Hilbert [[CantDropTheHero is locked]] but he is at least pretty fast.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Pretty much every player Many players will only use Hilbert, Matilda, Ethan, and Lorenza. ''Maybe'' Zawu instead of Matilda or Ethan. Due to the way magic works, buffs are just as effective no matter ''who'' uses them. Lorenza's the only one worth casting offensive magic with, while Matilda and Ethan all do the highest physical damage. Hilbert [[CantDropTheHero is locked]] but he is at least pretty fast.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Pretty much every player will only use Hilbert, Matilda, Ethan, and Lorenza. ''Maybe'' Zawu instead of Matilda or Ethan. Due to the way magic works, buffs are just as effective no matter ''who'' uses them. Lorenza's the only one worth casting offensive magic with, while Matilda and Ethan all do the highest physical damage. Hilbert [[CantDropTheHero is locked]] but he is at least pretty fast.


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* TierInducedScrappy:
** Thorve and Randolph. Thorve is essentially the game's first "mage" character and is sort of a JackOfAllStats, but sadly a MasterOfNone. Once you get Lorenza, Thorve will most likely be benched unless Lorenza's out of the party. Randolph similarly is basically a "Tank" character. Which unfortunately doesn't have much of an effect in a turn-based RPG with no real draw-aggro mechanic.

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* CryForTheDevil: You ''will'' feel sorry for [[spoiler:Ortas]] after [[AlasPoorVillain he dies]]. He ends up brutally betrayed by his allies and reduced to utter despair as all his carefully-laid plans collapse around him, with a death speech that highlights his FreudianExcuse.



** Subverted with Thorve, who has the DarkAndTroubledPast, but turns out to be over the worst of it already.
* CryForTheDevil: You ''will'' feel sorry for [[spoiler:Ortas]] after [[AlasPoorVillain he dies]]. He ends up brutally betrayed by his allies and reduced to utter despair as all his carefully-laid plans collapse around him, with a death speech that highlights his FreudianExcuse.

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** Subverted with Thorve, who has the DarkAndTroubledPast, but turns out to be over the worst of it already.
* CryForTheDevil: You ''will'' feel sorry for [[spoiler:Ortas]] after [[AlasPoorVillain he dies]]. He ends up brutally betrayed by his allies and reduced to utter despair as all his carefully-laid plans collapse around him, with a death speech that highlights his FreudianExcuse.
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** The battle themes for Felgorn ([=Boss3=]), the Omega Team and [[spoiler:Ortas]], Zawu's theme ([=Slow05=]), Lorenza's theme ([=Peace03=]), and the music of the Towers ([=Farewell2=]). Though the game's soundtrack consists of standard [[VideoGame/RPGMaker RTP]] content.

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** The battle themes for Felgorn ([=Boss3=]), the Omega Team and [[spoiler:Ortas]], Zawu's theme ([=Slow05=]), Lorenza's theme ([=Peace03=]), and the music of the Towers ([=Farewell2=]). Though the game's soundtrack consists of standard [[VideoGame/RPGMaker [[UsefulNotes/RPGMaker RTP]] content.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[TheChessmaster Augustus]] worked himself to the top so he could become the Empire's minister and seeks to prove that even commoners can get the throne. He effortlessly manipulates Felgorn to murder the Emperor so that the SpoiledBrat princess Helga could take over, then let her run the Empire into the ground so that when he covertly assasinated her, everyone rejoices and appoints him Emperor. And when Felgorn finally wises up and turns on him, Augustus allows him to kill him, stating before dying that he was content and that, with his desire fulfilled, he had already won.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[TheChessmaster [[EvilChancellor Augustus]] worked works himself to the top so he could can become [[TheEmpire the Empire's Empire's]] minister and seeks to prove that even commoners can get achieve the throne. He effortlessly manipulates Felgorn to murder into murdering the Emperor so that the SpoiledBrat princess Helga could can take over, over. He then let lets her run the Empire into the ground so that when he covertly assasinated assassinates her, everyone rejoices the Empire's citizen rejoice and appoints appoint him Emperor. And when When Felgorn finally wises up and turns on him, Augustus allows him Felgorn to kill him, stating before dying that he was is content and that, with his desire fulfilled, he had has already won.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[TheChessmaster Augustus]] worked himself to the top so he could become the Republic's minister and seeks to prove that even commoners can get the throne. He effortlessly manipulates Felgorn to murder the Emperor so that the SpoiledBrat princess Helga could take over, then let her run the Empire into the ground so that when he covertly assasinated her, everyone rejoices and appoints him Emperor. And when Felgorn finally wises up and turns on him, Augustus allows him to kill him, stating before dying that he was content and that, with his desire fulfilled, he had already won.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[TheChessmaster Augustus]] worked himself to the top so he could become the Republic's Empire's minister and seeks to prove that even commoners can get the throne. He effortlessly manipulates Felgorn to murder the Emperor so that the SpoiledBrat princess Helga could take over, then let her run the Empire into the ground so that when he covertly assasinated her, everyone rejoices and appoints him Emperor. And when Felgorn finally wises up and turns on him, Augustus allows him to kill him, stating before dying that he was content and that, with his desire fulfilled, he had already won.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[TheChessmaster Augustus]] worked himself to the top so he could become the Republic's minister and seeks to prove that even commoners can get the throne. He effortlessly manipulates Felgorn to murder the Emperor so that the SpoiledBrat princess Helga could take over, then let her run the Empire into the ground so that when he covertly assasinated her, everyone rejoices and appoints him Emperor. And when Felgorn finally wises up and turns on him, Augustus allows him to kill him, stating before dying that he was content and that, with his desire fulfilled, he had already won.
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* MagnificentBastard:
** Augustus, who is behind most of the political intrigue in the first half of the game and plays nearly everyone like fiddles. However, his reputation is probably most cemented by the utterly ruthless speech he gives to [[spoiler:Helga]] as he kills her, which many fans say is their favorite speech in the game.
--->'''[[spoiler:Helga]]:''' I... I trusted you!\\
'''Augustus:''' Well, that was a stupid move. But then, you never were very bright, were you?
** Castor. Deconstructed in that when [[spoiler:Castor loses at full power, he's so unable to cope with the fact that he's just ''not as good'' that he goes into a VillainousBreakdown.]]
** Despite only being a backstory character, [[spoiler:King Valkiris]] almost certainly qualifies, managing to dupe his entire army into fighting an hideously unjust war for him with undying loyalty, and [[WrittenByTheVictors ensuring that he went down in history as a good guy afterwards]].

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* CatharsisFactor: Replay with a NewGamePlus and [[EvilLaugh laugh]] at all those NintendoHard bosses that took you four tries to beat the first time through.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:

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* CatharsisFactor: Replay with a NewGamePlus and [[EvilLaugh laugh]] at all those NintendoHard bosses that took you four tries to beat the first time through.
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** Also the battle themes for Felgorn ([=Boss3=]), the Omega Team and [[spoiler:Ortas]], Zawu's theme ([=Slow05=]), Lorenza's theme ([=Peace03=]), and the music of the Towers ([=Farewell2=]). Though the game's soundtrack consists of standard [[VideoGame/RPGMaker RTP]] content.

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** Also the The battle themes for Felgorn ([=Boss3=]), the Omega Team and [[spoiler:Ortas]], Zawu's theme ([=Slow05=]), Lorenza's theme ([=Peace03=]), and the music of the Towers ([=Farewell2=]). Though the game's soundtrack consists of standard [[VideoGame/RPGMaker RTP]] content.


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* CatharsisFactor: Replay with a NewGamePlus and [[EvilLaugh laugh]] at all those NintendoHard bosses that took you four tries to beat the first time through.
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** Also the battle themes for Felgorn ([=Boss3=]), the Omega Team and [[spoiler:Ortas]], Zawu's theme ([=Slow05=]), Lorenza's theme ([=Peace03=]), and the music of the Towers ([=Farewell2=]). Though the game's soundtrack consists of standard [[RPGMaker RTP]] content.

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** Also the battle themes for Felgorn ([=Boss3=]), the Omega Team and [[spoiler:Ortas]], Zawu's theme ([=Slow05=]), Lorenza's theme ([=Peace03=]), and the music of the Towers ([=Farewell2=]). Though the game's soundtrack consists of standard [[RPGMaker [[VideoGame/RPGMaker RTP]] content.
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** Also the battle themes for Felgorn (Boss3), the Omega Team and [[spoiler:Ortas]], Zawu's theme (Slow05), Lorenza's theme (Peace03), and the music of the Towers (Farewell2). Though the game's soundtrack consists of standard [[RPGMaker RTP]] content.

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** Also the battle themes for Felgorn (Boss3), ([=Boss3=]), the Omega Team and [[spoiler:Ortas]], Zawu's theme (Slow05), ([=Slow05=]), Lorenza's theme (Peace03), ([=Peace03=]), and the music of the Towers (Farewell2).([=Farewell2=]). Though the game's soundtrack consists of standard [[RPGMaker RTP]] content.
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* HellIsThatNoise: Castor's boss fight music, both on its own merits and because it means [[ThatOneAttack you're about to get hit with about ten status effects at once]].
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* UnfortunateImplications:
** Esmeralda's GoMadFromTheRevelation at the knowledge that [[spoiler:all life originated as a HiveMind in the Cluster]] wouldn't be a problem on its own -- but Castor, a man, is able to bear the exact same knowledge without becoming an AxCrazy OmnicidalManiac. This potentially plays into the stereotypes of women being hysterical, overemotional idiots who can't handle reality and men being the calm, rational decision-makers.
** Helga being an incompetent SpoiledBrat while her brother Wilhelm is TheWisePrince carries similar unfortunate implications. This is exacerbated by [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Helga being the only female ruler in the entire game]].

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* ItGetsBetter: The story really starts to pick up after [[spoiler:the Imperial civil war arc]]. It also begins to get better after the first arc, but that's where you start actually learning about the plot instead of just participating in a bunch of wars.


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* SlowPacedBeginning: The story really starts to pick up after [[spoiler:the Imperial civil war arc]]. It also begins to get better after the first arc, but that's where you start actually learning about the plot instead of just participating in a bunch of wars.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: In the final dungeon.

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* HilariousInHindsight: minor, but when struck by lightning during battle, Matilda looks like the character Lightning.

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* HilariousInHindsight: minor, Minor, but when struck by lightning during battle, Matilda looks like the character Lightning.



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** Augustus.Augustus, who is behind most of the political intrigue in the first half of the game and plays nearly everyone like fiddles. However, his reputation is probably most cemented by the utterly ruthless speech he gives to [[spoiler:Helga]] as he kills her, which many fans say is their favorite speech in the game.
--->'''[[spoiler:Helga]]:''' I... I trusted you!\\
'''Augustus:''' Well, that was a stupid move. But then, you never were very bright, were you?



** Despite only being a backstory character, [[spoiler:King Valkiris]] almost certainly qualifies.

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** Despite only being a backstory character, [[spoiler:King Valkiris]] almost certainly qualifies.qualifies, managing to dupe his entire army into fighting an hideously unjust war for him with undying loyalty, and [[WrittenByTheVictors ensuring that he went down in history as a good guy afterwards]].



** The FinalBoss ''will'' rip you to shreds the first time you fight him unless you've collected all the cool swag from the bonus dungeons. If you finished any of the hardest ones, though, he'll be ridiculously underlevelled and can be ''[[CurbStompBattle soundly]]'' beaten.

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** The FinalBoss ''will'' rip you to shreds the first time you fight him unless you've collected all the cool swag from the bonus dungeons. If you finished any of the hardest ones, though, he'll be ridiculously underlevelled underleveled and can be ''[[CurbStompBattle soundly]]'' beaten.



* TheWoobie: Ethan does not have a happy life. Also a StoicWoobie and IronWoobie.

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* TheWoobie: UnfortunateImplications:
** Esmeralda's GoMadFromTheRevelation at the knowledge that [[spoiler:all life originated as a HiveMind in the Cluster]] wouldn't be a problem on its own -- but Castor, a man, is able to bear the exact same knowledge without becoming an AxCrazy OmnicidalManiac. This potentially plays into the stereotypes of women being hysterical, overemotional idiots who can't handle reality and men being the calm, rational decision-makers.
** Helga being an incompetent SpoiledBrat while her brother Wilhelm is TheWisePrince carries similar unfortunate implications. This is exacerbated by [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Helga being the only female ruler in the entire game]].
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Ethan does not have a happy life. Also a StoicWoobie and IronWoobie.



* CryForTheDevil: You ''will'' feel sorry for [[spoiler:Ortas after he dies]].

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* CryForTheDevil: You ''will'' feel sorry for [[spoiler:Ortas [[spoiler:Ortas]] after [[AlasPoorVillain he dies]].dies]]. He ends up brutally betrayed by his allies and reduced to utter despair as all his carefully-laid plans collapse around him, with a death speech that highlights his FreudianExcuse.
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*** Also used in the game is standard RPG Maker 2003 content, and they all receive a quality boost due to how MIDI's work. The Omega Team, [[spoiler:Ortas]] and many dungeons receive this treatment.

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*** Also used in the game is standard RPG Maker 2003 content, and they all receive a quality boost due to how MIDI's [=MIDIs=] work. The Omega Team, [[spoiler:Ortas]] and many dungeons receive this treatment.
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** Subverted with Thorve, who has the DarkAndTroubledPast, but turns out to be over the worst of it already.

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** Subverted with Thorve, who has the DarkAndTroubledPast, but turns out to be over the worst of it already.already.
* CryForTheDevil: You ''will'' feel sorry for [[spoiler:Ortas after he dies]].

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* FoeYay: Castor is rather... interested in Hilbert.

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* FoeYay: Castor is rather... interested in Hilbert.fixated on and fascinated by Hilbert, which makes it easy to interpret him this way.


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* JerkassDissonance: Even ''the creator himself'' [[http://blog.scfworks.com/?p=615 drew Helio in chibi style]].
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Hyperion]] isn't easy, but if you have protection against instant death, he's not particularly hard, either. Since he comes right after [[ThatOneBoss the hardest boss in the game]], this makes him look like a bit of a wuss in comparison.

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