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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation
** Mitsuzane's attempts to protect his friends bring to mind several interpretations:
*** In telling Kouta to abandon his Driver, is he really looking out for him and finding a way to boycott Yggdrasil or is he just manipulating him into doing so to save his own skin? Is what he said to Kouta about no longer keeping secrets or worrying Mai something he's telling Kouta or himself? This can be applied earlier on, when he warns Kouta against going public with the story about Yggdrasil. Is he seriously concerned for the safety of his friends or is he trying to make sure Takatora doesn't find out about his double life?
*** To further illustrate this, a later episode has Mitsuzane sneaking in Yggdrasil and getting data from them, then claims to his brother that he plans to use it against Yggdrasil, though his brother believes he's just doing it to challenge him.
*** Later events of Mitsuzane's [[spoiler:fall to the dark side]] make audiences wonder if [[spoiler:he was EvilAllAlong or was warped into being evil through a combination of desiring power, knowing the AwfulTruth of the Helheim Forest, and wanting a piece of Takatora's ControlFreak habit]]. His actions and reactions throughout the series can suggest either route.
*** Considering Mitsuzane's [[spoiler:descent began with knowing the AwfulTruth]] followed by being put in a situation where he must [[spoiler:choose between what he thinks is right and those he cares for]], there's room to interpret Mitsuzane as [[spoiler:being DrivenToMadness by a combination of said AwfulTruth and the stress he's put through.]]
*** With the release of the [[DayInTheLimelight Zangetsu Gaiden]] movie, people have been quick to point out that it may not have just been Takatora's influence that [[spoiler:caused Micchy to turn evil, but also ''their father's'']].
** Was Hase's descent into madness a result of PTSD brought on by the stresses of being BroughtDownToNormal, having his friend backstab him, and essentially losing everything that he loved or is it a result of his Sengoku Driver being broken and him going into a biologically induced shock? One interpretation is that there were [[http://kamentexters.tumblr.com/post/109133417563/revieloutionne-replied-to-your-post-massive-gaim multiple factors]].
** Sigurd telling Kouta about how hunting down monsters is part of being a Rider split the fanbase (see below). One question remains: was he actually serious and considered the job akin to ShootTheDog? Or was he just trying to break Kouta's spirits by telling him that hunting down [[spoiler:humans who have turned into]] monsters is all a Rider is good for? Or perhaps he's just trolling ForTheEvulz? Considering Sigurd is [[spoiler:Sid]], chances are that the "actually serious" explanation isn't that likely.
** Also, how much does Kaito really buy into his own SocialDarwinist philosophy? He talks a good talk, but his actions tend to be suspiciously altruistic whenever things get serious. It doesn't help that he's similar to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyoko Sakura]], another Urobuchi-written character with a selfish philosophy that she doesn't actually seem to follow.
*** [[spoiler:Is Kaito becoming a villainous Overlord simply because of his drive for more power with the Overlords gone or was it a move of despair and rage from Ryoma killing Mai and causing Kouta's death via Mitsuzane? Consider that he didn't do this until after he learns that Kouta too is dead, angering him so much he takes the chance to becoming an Overlord. The answer is that his intentions were indeed altruistic, that the world he wanted to make was one where the weak were never suppressed, above all else. Kouta himself notes that they both want the same thing, but the problem was Kaito went about it the way of the cynic that he was, amassing power and forcibly remaking the world to achieve such ends]].
** Two scenes at the end of Rosyuo's [[spoiler:last battle]] shows different interpretations.
*** When Redyue [[spoiler:grabs the Forbidden Fruit and sees it rot, is it because Rosyuo used up all its power, is it because the time of the Overlords was thematically done, or is it because someone not chosen by the fruit was holding it]]?
*** When [[spoiler:Rosyuo's wife shows up, is it a ghost or did Redyue's machine actually worked?]]
** Sagara in the penultimate episode brings up an interpretation. [[spoiler:When Kouta decides what to do with Helheim Forest, Sagara expresses concern for him and Mai. [[VillainousBreakdown Concern over the fact that they're screwing him over]] or the fact that they're rejecting Earth to go to somewhere barren? Him being fine with it after Kouta states that he won't be lonely, encouraging Kouta and Mai to go through with it, and beginning a new trial for a distant alien planet brings evidence for both ends]].
** Mitsuzane's attempts to protect his friends bring to mind several interpretations:
*** In telling Kouta to abandon his Driver, is he really looking out for him and finding a way to boycott Yggdrasil or is he just manipulating him into doing so to save his own skin? Is what he said to Kouta about no longer keeping secrets or worrying Mai something he's telling Kouta or himself? This can be applied earlier on, when he warns Kouta against going public with the story about Yggdrasil. Is he seriously concerned for the safety of his friends or is he trying to make sure Takatora doesn't find out about his double life?
*** To further illustrate this, a later episode has Mitsuzane sneaking in Yggdrasil and getting data from them, then claims to his brother that he plans to use it against Yggdrasil, though his brother believes he's just doing it to challenge him.
*** Later events of Mitsuzane's [[spoiler:fall to the dark side]] make audiences wonder if [[spoiler:he was EvilAllAlong or was warped into being evil through a combination of desiring power, knowing the AwfulTruth of the Helheim Forest, and wanting a piece of Takatora's ControlFreak habit]]. His actions and reactions throughout the series can suggest either route.
*** Considering Mitsuzane's [[spoiler:descent began with knowing the AwfulTruth]] followed by being put in a situation where he must [[spoiler:choose between what he thinks is right and those he cares for]], there's room to interpret Mitsuzane as [[spoiler:being DrivenToMadness by a combination of said AwfulTruth and the stress he's put through.]]
*** With the release of the [[DayInTheLimelight Zangetsu Gaiden]] movie, people have been quick to point out that it may not have just been Takatora's influence that [[spoiler:caused Micchy to turn evil, but also ''their father's'']].
** Was Hase's descent into madness a result of PTSD brought on by the stresses of being BroughtDownToNormal, having his friend backstab him, and essentially losing everything that he loved or is it a result of his Sengoku Driver being broken and him going into a biologically induced shock? One interpretation is that there were [[http://kamentexters.tumblr.com/post/109133417563/revieloutionne-replied-to-your-post-massive-gaim multiple factors]].
** Sigurd telling Kouta about how hunting down monsters is part of being a Rider split the fanbase (see below). One question remains: was he actually serious and considered the job akin to ShootTheDog? Or was he just trying to break Kouta's spirits by telling him that hunting down [[spoiler:humans who have turned into]] monsters is all a Rider is good for? Or perhaps he's just trolling ForTheEvulz? Considering Sigurd is [[spoiler:Sid]], chances are that the "actually serious" explanation isn't that likely.
** Also, how much does Kaito really buy into his own SocialDarwinist philosophy? He talks a good talk, but his actions tend to be suspiciously altruistic whenever things get serious. It doesn't help that he's similar to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyoko Sakura]], another Urobuchi-written character with a selfish philosophy that she doesn't actually seem to follow.
*** [[spoiler:Is Kaito becoming a villainous Overlord simply because of his drive for more power with the Overlords gone or was it a move of despair and rage from Ryoma killing Mai and causing Kouta's death via Mitsuzane? Consider that he didn't do this until after he learns that Kouta too is dead, angering him so much he takes the chance to becoming an Overlord. The answer is that his intentions were indeed altruistic, that the world he wanted to make was one where the weak were never suppressed, above all else. Kouta himself notes that they both want the same thing, but the problem was Kaito went about it the way of the cynic that he was, amassing power and forcibly remaking the world to achieve such ends]].
** Two scenes at the end of Rosyuo's [[spoiler:last battle]] shows different interpretations.
*** When Redyue [[spoiler:grabs the Forbidden Fruit and sees it rot, is it because Rosyuo used up all its power, is it because the time of the Overlords was thematically done, or is it because someone not chosen by the fruit was holding it]]?
*** When [[spoiler:Rosyuo's wife shows up, is it a ghost or did Redyue's machine actually worked?]]
** Sagara in the penultimate episode brings up an interpretation. [[spoiler:When Kouta decides what to do with Helheim Forest, Sagara expresses concern for him and Mai. [[VillainousBreakdown Concern over the fact that they're screwing him over]] or the fact that they're rejecting Earth to go to somewhere barren? Him being fine with it after Kouta states that he won't be lonely, encouraging Kouta and Mai to go through with it, and beginning a new trial for a distant alien planet brings evidence for both ends]].
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*AlternativeCharacterInterpretation
** Mitsuzane's attempts to protect his friends bring to mind several interpretations:
***[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation/KamenRiderGaim Alternative Character Interpretation]]
* [[HilariousInHindsight/KamenRiderGaim Hilarious Intelling Kouta to abandon his Driver, is he really looking out for him and finding a way to boycott Yggdrasil or is he just manipulating him into doing so to save his own skin? Is what he said to Kouta about no longer keeping secrets or worrying Mai something he's telling Kouta or himself? This can be applied earlier on, when he warns Kouta against going public with the story about Yggdrasil. Is he seriously concerned for the safety of his friends or is he trying to make sure Takatora doesn't find out about his double life?
*** To further illustrate this, a later episode has Mitsuzane sneaking in Yggdrasil and getting data from them, then claims to his brother that he plans to use it against Yggdrasil, though his brother believes he's just doing it to challenge him.
*** Later events of Mitsuzane's [[spoiler:fall to the dark side]] make audiences wonder if [[spoiler:he was EvilAllAlong or was warped into being evil through a combination of desiring power, knowing the AwfulTruth of the Helheim Forest, and wanting a piece of Takatora's ControlFreak habit]]. His actions and reactions throughout the series can suggest either route.
*** Considering Mitsuzane's [[spoiler:descent began with knowing the AwfulTruth]] followed by being put in a situation where he must [[spoiler:choose between what he thinks is right and those he cares for]], there's room to interpret Mitsuzane as [[spoiler:being DrivenToMadness by a combination of said AwfulTruth and the stress he's put through.]]
*** With the release of the [[DayInTheLimelight Zangetsu Gaiden]] movie, people have been quick to point out that it may not have just been Takatora's influence that [[spoiler:caused Micchy to turn evil, but also ''their father's'']].
** Was Hase's descent into madness a result of PTSD brought on by the stresses of being BroughtDownToNormal, having his friend backstab him, and essentially losing everything that he loved or is it a result of his Sengoku Driver being broken and him going into a biologically induced shock? One interpretation is that there were [[http://kamentexters.tumblr.com/post/109133417563/revieloutionne-replied-to-your-post-massive-gaim multiple factors]].
** Sigurd telling Kouta about how hunting down monsters is part of being a Rider split the fanbase (see below). One question remains: was he actually serious and considered the job akin to ShootTheDog? Or was he just trying to break Kouta's spirits by telling him that hunting down [[spoiler:humans who have turned into]] monsters is all a Rider is good for? Or perhaps he's just trolling ForTheEvulz? Considering Sigurd is [[spoiler:Sid]], chances are that the "actually serious" explanation isn't that likely.
** Also, how much does Kaito really buy into his own SocialDarwinist philosophy? He talks a good talk, but his actions tend to be suspiciously altruistic whenever things get serious. It doesn't help that he's similar to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyoko Sakura]], another Urobuchi-written character with a selfish philosophy that she doesn't actually seem to follow.
*** [[spoiler:Is Kaito becoming a villainous Overlord simply because of his drive for more power with the Overlords gone or was it a move of despair and rage from Ryoma killing Mai and causing Kouta's death via Mitsuzane? Consider that he didn't do this until after he learns that Kouta too is dead, angering him so much he takes the chance to becoming an Overlord. The answer is that his intentions were indeed altruistic, that the world he wanted to make was one where the weak were never suppressed, above all else. Kouta himself notes that they both want the same thing, but the problem was Kaito went about it the way of the cynic that he was, amassing power and forcibly remaking the world to achieve such ends]].
** Two scenes at the end of Rosyuo's [[spoiler:last battle]] shows different interpretations.
*** When Redyue [[spoiler:grabs the Forbidden Fruit and sees it rot, is it because Rosyuo used up all its power, is it because the time of the Overlords was thematically done, or is it because someone not chosen by the fruit was holding it]]?
*** When [[spoiler:Rosyuo's wife shows up, is it a ghost or did Redyue's machine actually worked?]]
** Sagara in the penultimate episode brings up an interpretation. [[spoiler:When Kouta decides what to do with Helheim Forest, Sagara expresses concern for him and Mai. [[VillainousBreakdown Concern over the fact that they're screwing him over]] or the fact that they're rejecting Earth to go to somewhere barren? Him being fine with it after Kouta states that he won't be lonely, encouraging Kouta and Mai to go through with it, and beginning a new trial for a distant alien planet brings evidence for both ends]].Hindsight]]
[[/index]]
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** Mitsuzane's attempts to protect his friends bring to mind several interpretations:
***
* [[HilariousInHindsight/KamenRiderGaim Hilarious In
*** To further illustrate this, a later episode has Mitsuzane sneaking in Yggdrasil and getting data from them, then claims to his brother that he plans to use it against Yggdrasil, though his brother believes he's just doing it to challenge him.
*** Later events of Mitsuzane's [[spoiler:fall to the dark side]] make audiences wonder if [[spoiler:he was EvilAllAlong or was warped into being evil through a combination of desiring power, knowing the AwfulTruth of the Helheim Forest, and wanting a piece of Takatora's ControlFreak habit]]. His actions and reactions throughout the series can suggest either route.
*** Considering Mitsuzane's [[spoiler:descent began with knowing the AwfulTruth]] followed by being put in a situation where he must [[spoiler:choose between what he thinks is right and those he cares for]], there's room to interpret Mitsuzane as [[spoiler:being DrivenToMadness by a combination of said AwfulTruth and the stress he's put through.]]
*** With the release of the [[DayInTheLimelight Zangetsu Gaiden]] movie, people have been quick to point out that it may not have just been Takatora's influence that [[spoiler:caused Micchy to turn evil, but also ''their father's'']].
** Was Hase's descent into madness a result of PTSD brought on by the stresses of being BroughtDownToNormal, having his friend backstab him, and essentially losing everything that he loved or is it a result of his Sengoku Driver being broken and him going into a biologically induced shock? One interpretation is that there were [[http://kamentexters.tumblr.com/post/109133417563/revieloutionne-replied-to-your-post-massive-gaim multiple factors]].
** Sigurd telling Kouta about how hunting down monsters is part of being a Rider split the fanbase (see below). One question remains: was he actually serious and considered the job akin to ShootTheDog? Or was he just trying to break Kouta's spirits by telling him that hunting down [[spoiler:humans who have turned into]] monsters is all a Rider is good for? Or perhaps he's just trolling ForTheEvulz? Considering Sigurd is [[spoiler:Sid]], chances are that the "actually serious" explanation isn't that likely.
** Also, how much does Kaito really buy into his own SocialDarwinist philosophy? He talks a good talk, but his actions tend to be suspiciously altruistic whenever things get serious. It doesn't help that he's similar to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyoko Sakura]], another Urobuchi-written character with a selfish philosophy that she doesn't actually seem to follow.
*** [[spoiler:Is Kaito becoming a villainous Overlord simply because of his drive for more power with the Overlords gone or was it a move of despair and rage from Ryoma killing Mai and causing Kouta's death via Mitsuzane? Consider that he didn't do this until after he learns that Kouta too is dead, angering him so much he takes the chance to becoming an Overlord. The answer is that his intentions were indeed altruistic, that the world he wanted to make was one where the weak were never suppressed, above all else. Kouta himself notes that they both want the same thing, but the problem was Kaito went about it the way of the cynic that he was, amassing power and forcibly remaking the world to achieve such ends]].
** Two scenes at the end of Rosyuo's [[spoiler:last battle]] shows different interpretations.
*** When Redyue [[spoiler:grabs the Forbidden Fruit and sees it rot, is it because Rosyuo used up all its power, is it because the time of the Overlords was thematically done, or is it because someone not chosen by the fruit was holding it]]?
*** When [[spoiler:Rosyuo's wife shows up, is it a ghost or did Redyue's machine actually worked?]]
** Sagara in the penultimate episode brings up an interpretation. [[spoiler:When Kouta decides what to do with Helheim Forest, Sagara expresses concern for him and Mai. [[VillainousBreakdown Concern over the fact that they're screwing him over]] or the fact that they're rejecting Earth to go to somewhere barren? Him being fine with it after Kouta states that he won't be lonely, encouraging Kouta and Mai to go through with it, and beginning a new trial for a distant alien planet brings evidence for both ends]].
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** During its run, ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' had concepts and characters that were often compared to ''Series/KamenRiderRyuki'' and vice versa with ''Series/KamenRiderWizard''. Creator/GenUrobuchi is writing this series. Perhaps Toei approved...
*** In addition, Gen was famous for writing a show that only ''looks'' like a children's show, and now he's writing an actual children's show.
** The original Franchise/KamenRider is usually called Kamen Rider Ichigo, so that people can differentiate him from Kamen Rider Nigo. Here, a powerup called "Strawberry Arms" exist. Strawberry in Japanese is 'ichigo'[[note]]though with a short 'o' instead of a long one[[/note]].
*** Maybe we'll have another one if Gaim in Strawberry Arms vs Zangetsu, making Manga/{{Bleach}} fans love this possibility.
*** Then it got more hilarious considering that Gaim got ''the'' Kamen Rider Ichigou's lockseed in the ''Showa vs. Heisei'' movie.
** The last Second Rider to not have a debut in a movie was also named [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Kaito]].
** For that matter, Morning Rescue, an orange juice, was associated with Madoka due to the ad airing alongside the series. Now, Urobuchi IS doing an orange-themed Rider...
** At the same time that this show was airing, the season premiere of a [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic well-known show]] had the plot of its own [[EldritchLocation forest]] invading the normal world. Soon after that, Helheim starts its own invasion.
** It just so happens that, while Kamen Rider has the lock in 2013, [[Series/PowerRangersMegaforce Power Rangers has the key]].
** Fans are wondering what will happen if Zangetsu (a melon rider) meet a [[Manga/ZatchBell melon-loving Mamodo]] that even has a song and dance for his favourite fruit.
** [[http://beautifuldecay.com/2014/03/07/jun-kitagawas-giant-zippers-open-large-public-spaces/ This]] has apparently been going on for a few years now.
*** Speaking of giant zippers, [[Series/KamenRiderDenO the last time]] Sid's actor was in a Kamen Rider show, he was a victim of the week... and during the second part of his two-parter, the Denliner travels back in time... and one piece of graffiti present was a giant zipper as well.
** Before the show debuted, [[WordOfGod we heard that Zangetsu would be playing a similar role to]] [[Series/KamenRiderRyuki Ouja]]. [[spoiler:Well, now we see that Takatora, the primary Zangetsu user, is a nice guy while his brother, using Zangetsu's identity, is out to murder Kouta.]]
** Hase may have gotten the connections to Tomoe Mami, but there's one thing [[spoiler:his killer took from him. All the jokes made related to a CruelAndUnusualDeath]].
** In #11, Sid has a brief monologue about how kids just want power and how no adult would ever dive into that danger. [[spoiler:Twenty episodes later and he's diving into said danger... and paying the ultimate price]].
** With all the talk of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' elements sneaking into ''Gaim'', it should come as no surprise that [[spoiler:Madoka]]'s eventual fate actually becomes a plot point. But not for Kota as expected. [[spoiler:It's Mai. Though still played straight when Kouta wins the Forbidden Fruit and ascends to godhood, albeit as a PhysicalGod, complete with his taking a third option in defiance of the Kyubey expy's expectations. The other difference, though, is that Sagara, after getting over his disbelief and disappointment, shows his support and accepts his defeat.]]
** People have compared the basic plot of Game of Thrones to Kamen Rider Gaim, and now they can have a chuckle knowing that both share the following trait: one of the most gruesome deaths in the show involves someone getting crushed by a mountain.
** It's common practice for fans to make expanded arsenal for a Rider, with here being Lockseeds going past #13 (Kiwi, the last of the canonical numbered regular Lockseeds). [[spoiler:In the Kamen Rider Duke Gaiden movie, Duke uses a regular Lemon Lockseed, which has a Lockseed number of ''99''! That means there are ''at least'' 100 variations of Lockseeds, and those are just the normal ones!]]
** Despite being a rider, Takatora never used a Rider Kick in the series, despite officially having one. [[Series/UchuSentaiKyuranger The next time he would play an older brother]], he used a rider kick.
** Creator/HochuOtsuka, the narrator of this series, voiced a character in the [[HumongousMecha mecha]] anime ''[[Anime/HeavyMetalLGaim Heavy Metal L-Gaim]]''.
** The comparisons to the UsefulNotes/SengokuPeriod become this when [[Series/KamenRiderDrive the next series]] casts someone who's descended from UsefulNotes/AkechiMitsuhide, one of the more (in)famous warlords from said period.
** The fact that Kaito's actor [[WhatCouldHaveBeen auditioned for]] [[Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger Captain Marvelous]] becomes this when an actor who played Kamen Rider ''Proto'' Baron ends up playing [[Series/KikaiSentaiZenkaiger Zocks]], the Gokaiger-themed Twokaizer.
** During its run, ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' had concepts and characters that were often compared to ''Series/KamenRiderRyuki'' and vice versa with ''Series/KamenRiderWizard''. Creator/GenUrobuchi is writing this series. Perhaps Toei approved...
*** In addition, Gen was famous for writing a show that only ''looks'' like a children's show, and now he's writing an actual children's show.
** The original Franchise/KamenRider is usually called Kamen Rider Ichigo, so that people can differentiate him from Kamen Rider Nigo. Here, a powerup called "Strawberry Arms" exist. Strawberry in Japanese is 'ichigo'[[note]]though with a short 'o' instead of a long one[[/note]].
*** Maybe we'll have another one if Gaim in Strawberry Arms vs Zangetsu, making Manga/{{Bleach}} fans love this possibility.
*** Then it got more hilarious considering that Gaim got ''the'' Kamen Rider Ichigou's lockseed in the ''Showa vs. Heisei'' movie.
** The last Second Rider to not have a debut in a movie was also named [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Kaito]].
** For that matter, Morning Rescue, an orange juice, was associated with Madoka due to the ad airing alongside the series. Now, Urobuchi IS doing an orange-themed Rider...
** At the same time that this show was airing, the season premiere of a [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic well-known show]] had the plot of its own [[EldritchLocation forest]] invading the normal world. Soon after that, Helheim starts its own invasion.
** It just so happens that, while Kamen Rider has the lock in 2013, [[Series/PowerRangersMegaforce Power Rangers has the key]].
** Fans are wondering what will happen if Zangetsu (a melon rider) meet a [[Manga/ZatchBell melon-loving Mamodo]] that even has a song and dance for his favourite fruit.
** [[http://beautifuldecay.com/2014/03/07/jun-kitagawas-giant-zippers-open-large-public-spaces/ This]] has apparently been going on for a few years now.
*** Speaking of giant zippers, [[Series/KamenRiderDenO the last time]] Sid's actor was in a Kamen Rider show, he was a victim of the week... and during the second part of his two-parter, the Denliner travels back in time... and one piece of graffiti present was a giant zipper as well.
** Before the show debuted, [[WordOfGod we heard that Zangetsu would be playing a similar role to]] [[Series/KamenRiderRyuki Ouja]]. [[spoiler:Well, now we see that Takatora, the primary Zangetsu user, is a nice guy while his brother, using Zangetsu's identity, is out to murder Kouta.]]
** Hase may have gotten the connections to Tomoe Mami, but there's one thing [[spoiler:his killer took from him. All the jokes made related to a CruelAndUnusualDeath]].
** In #11, Sid has a brief monologue about how kids just want power and how no adult would ever dive into that danger. [[spoiler:Twenty episodes later and he's diving into said danger... and paying the ultimate price]].
** With all the talk of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' elements sneaking into ''Gaim'', it should come as no surprise that [[spoiler:Madoka]]'s eventual fate actually becomes a plot point. But not for Kota as expected. [[spoiler:It's Mai. Though still played straight when Kouta wins the Forbidden Fruit and ascends to godhood, albeit as a PhysicalGod, complete with his taking a third option in defiance of the Kyubey expy's expectations. The other difference, though, is that Sagara, after getting over his disbelief and disappointment, shows his support and accepts his defeat.]]
** People have compared the basic plot of Game of Thrones to Kamen Rider Gaim, and now they can have a chuckle knowing that both share the following trait: one of the most gruesome deaths in the show involves someone getting crushed by a mountain.
** It's common practice for fans to make expanded arsenal for a Rider, with here being Lockseeds going past #13 (Kiwi, the last of the canonical numbered regular Lockseeds). [[spoiler:In the Kamen Rider Duke Gaiden movie, Duke uses a regular Lemon Lockseed, which has a Lockseed number of ''99''! That means there are ''at least'' 100 variations of Lockseeds, and those are just the normal ones!]]
** Despite being a rider, Takatora never used a Rider Kick in the series, despite officially having one. [[Series/UchuSentaiKyuranger The next time he would play an older brother]], he used a rider kick.
** Creator/HochuOtsuka, the narrator of this series, voiced a character in the [[HumongousMecha mecha]] anime ''[[Anime/HeavyMetalLGaim Heavy Metal L-Gaim]]''.
** The comparisons to the UsefulNotes/SengokuPeriod become this when [[Series/KamenRiderDrive the next series]] casts someone who's descended from UsefulNotes/AkechiMitsuhide, one of the more (in)famous warlords from said period.
** The fact that Kaito's actor [[WhatCouldHaveBeen auditioned for]] [[Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger Captain Marvelous]] becomes this when an actor who played Kamen Rider ''Proto'' Baron ends up playing [[Series/KikaiSentaiZenkaiger Zocks]], the Gokaiger-themed Twokaizer.
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** Western fans also consider Mai annoying and forgettable. Some also view her as a "prize" for the male characters with little agency, who only serves to push the LoveTriangle[[note]]Some fans thought that Kaito and Mai have ShipTease, but WordOfGod is that they're just friends[[/note]] between Kota and Michy. Despite having a lot of plot relevance, she barely does anything, and most of her screentime is dedicated to chewing out Kota, [[spoiler: until the final arc where she's suddenly elevated to a pseudo-goddess. The fact that she chose to forgive Micchy, a '''really controversial''' character in the series, didn't help matters]]. Users on the r/KamenRider subreddit often state that Mai is the worst part of the show.
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** Western fans also consider Mai annoying and forgettable. Some also view her as a "prize" for the male characters with little agency, who only serves to push the LoveTriangle[[note]]Some fans thought that Kaito and Mai have ShipTease, but WordOfGod is that they're just friends[[/note]] between Kota and Michy. Despite having a lot of plot relevance, she barely does anything, and most of her screentime is dedicated to chewing out Kota, [[spoiler: until the final arc where she's suddenly elevated to a pseudo-goddess. The fact that she chose to forgive Micchy, a '''really controversial''' character in the series, didn't help matters]]. pseudo-goddess]]. Users on the r/KamenRider [=r/KamenRider=] subreddit often state that Mai is the worst part of the show.
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**[[spoiler: When Kaito went to save the LivingMacGuffin, was he doing it for power or for Mai? WordOfGod also said that he has no feelings for Mai, supporting the former.]]
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* TheScrappy: Thanks in part to ValuesDissonance, there are some who took a disliking towards Akira after her speech in #3.
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** Thanks in part to ValuesDissonance, there are some who took a disliking towards Akira after her speech in#3.#3.
**Western fans also consider Mai annoying and forgettable. Some also view her as a "prize" for the male characters with little agency, who only serves to push the LoveTriangle[[note]]Some fans thought that Kaito and Mai have ShipTease, but WordOfGod is that they're just friends[[/note]] between Kota and Michy. Despite having a lot of plot relevance, she barely does anything, and most of her screentime is dedicated to chewing out Kota, [[spoiler: until the final arc where she's suddenly elevated to a pseudo-goddess. The fact that she chose to forgive Micchy, a '''really controversial''' character in the series, didn't help matters]]. Users on the r/KamenRider subreddit often state that Mai is the worst part of the show.
** Thanks in part to ValuesDissonance, there are some who took a disliking towards Akira after her speech in
**Western fans also consider Mai annoying and forgettable. Some also view her as a "prize" for the male characters with little agency, who only serves to push the LoveTriangle[[note]]Some fans thought that Kaito and Mai have ShipTease, but WordOfGod is that they're just friends[[/note]] between Kota and Michy. Despite having a lot of plot relevance, she barely does anything, and most of her screentime is dedicated to chewing out Kota, [[spoiler: until the final arc where she's suddenly elevated to a pseudo-goddess. The fact that she chose to forgive Micchy, a '''really controversial''' character in the series, didn't help matters]]. Users on the r/KamenRider subreddit often state that Mai is the worst part of the show.
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** While it does look odd to a Western Audience, Kiwami Arms (specifically the helmet) is based off of Oba Nobunaga's armor. While he's been portrayed as both good and evil in culture, Nobunaga is considered a powerful warlord and one of Japan's greatest rulers, so with that in mind, basing Gaim, a Samurai's, ultimate form off his armor makes sense when Nobunaga's cultural significance is taken into account (something western audiences may be less aware of).
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** While it does look odd odd[[note]]Why, you ask? [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/krga_gaimkiwami.png Err]]...[[/note]] to a Western Audience, Kiwami Arms (specifically the helmet) is based off of Oba Nobunaga's armor. While he's been portrayed as both good and evil in culture, Nobunaga is considered a powerful warlord and one of Japan's greatest rulers, so with that in mind, basing Gaim, a Samurai's, ultimate form off his armor makes sense when Nobunaga's cultural significance is taken into account (something western audiences may be less aware of).[[note]]
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*** The helmet also in some ways resembles a design commonly attributed to another Sengoku-era warlord of note: Uesugi Kenshin.
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*** The helmet also in some ways resembles a design commonly attributed to another Sengoku-era warlord of note: Uesugi Kenshin.[[/note]]
**As stated in AlternativeCharacterInterpretation and TheScrappy above, many Western fans [[spoiler: hated how Mai was handled in the end and thought it was sexist and objectifying.]]
**As stated in AlternativeCharacterInterpretation and TheScrappy above, many Western fans [[spoiler: hated how Mai was handled in the end and thought it was sexist and objectifying.]]
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does argue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does argue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he long since crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times at this point in the series and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
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* QuestionableCasting: While he's not an actor, many people had this reaction when [[FanNickname Urobutcher]] was announced as the writer. They end up thanking Toei for this decision afterwards, though.
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* WTHCastingAgency: While he's not an actor, many people had this reaction when [[FanNickname Urobutcher]] was announced as the writer. They end up thanking Toei for this decision afterwards, though.
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I think shouldn't bring down other series (particularly as I think Micchy is even more Easily Forgiven, and technically is a Karma Houdini to not end up being punished/dead, other than him wanting to atone)
* IronWoobie: By #26, Kouta. [[spoiler:He find out that the end of the world is coming, that the only company with the power to do so is going to go for the WellIntentionedExtremist route, that he accidentally killed HIS MENTOR in Team Gaim. His best friend/comrade in arms have been slowly going behind his back and outright shot him, he's alone in his fight against an alien forest, and when he try to communicate with someone that can possibly stop Helhelm he got beat up for his efforts.]] [[TheDeterminator And he]] ''[[TheDeterminator still not break.]]'' He nearly did in #40. [[spoiler:Finding out that he's slowly becoming Overlord-like AND got a healthy dose of MindRape from Redyue wasn't good for his psyche]]. However, it actually managed to make him even ''more'' of an Iron Woobie.
*** In the end, [[spoiler:Kouta found himself going up against nearly everyone, from [[GangBangers rival Beat Riders]], [[{{Mooks}} the Inves]], and [[MegaCorp Yggdrassil]], to [[EvilFormerFriend Micchy]], [[EliteMooks the]] [[MonsterOfTheWeek Overlords]], [[FinalBoss and ultimately Kaito]] [[HumanoidAbomination after he becomes one]]. He even had to fight ''[[Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai Takeshi Hongo]]'' at one point, and at the end of it all, he emerges as the true victor and finally saves the world after everything he's gone through, hoping that everyone left will finally be happy again. [[EarnYourHappyEnding He truly deserved to be the one to come out on top]].]]
*** In the end, [[spoiler:Kouta found himself going up against nearly everyone, from [[GangBangers rival Beat Riders]], [[{{Mooks}} the Inves]], and [[MegaCorp Yggdrassil]], to [[EvilFormerFriend Micchy]], [[EliteMooks the]] [[MonsterOfTheWeek Overlords]], [[FinalBoss and ultimately Kaito]] [[HumanoidAbomination after he becomes one]]. He even had to fight ''[[Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai Takeshi Hongo]]'' at one point, and at the end of it all, he emerges as the true victor and finally saves the world after everything he's gone through, hoping that everyone left will finally be happy again. [[EarnYourHappyEnding He truly deserved to be the one to come out on top]].]]
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* JerkassWoobie: Mitsuzane Kureshima. [[spoiler:He lost everything, ranging from his crush on Mai to his total control due to him being ended up being as an UnwittingPawn for both Redyue and Ryoma Sengoku all along. Also, the fact that he unwillingly injured Kouta to a temporary death ended up in vain. As a result, [[TheAtoner he's atoning for his misdeeds]].]]
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** Ryoji Hase. By #12, he's lost ''everything''. He has no Sengoku Driver, Jounochi states that he was being used, his teammates disown him...damn. [[spoiler:And to make matters worse, he is transformed into an Inves. And was then put down like a rabid dog by Sigurd. This guy could not catch a break...]]
** Mitsuzane Kureshima. [[spoiler:He lost everything, ranging from his crush on Mai to his total control due to him being ended up being as an UnwittingPawn for both Redyue and Ryoma Sengoku all along. Also, the fact that he unwillingly injured Kouta to a temporary death ended up in vain. As a result, [[TheAtoner he's atoning for his misdeeds]].]]
** [[spoiler:Takatora doesn't fare any better than Kouta does. Its revealed that he's the only one in Yggdrasil who actually cares about humanity, and is only going for the WellIntentionedExtremist route which involves wiping out an enormous portion of the population because he thinks that he had ran out of options. When Kouta presents a new path that doesn't involve a mass genocide, he grabs it the second he realizes that he can save the world. However, he is quickly betrayed by Sid, Yoko, and Ryoma, the last of which he thought of as a close friend, and told his brother who stood by watching him to help Kouta in any way he can, not knowing that Mitsuzane had already fallen. When he comes back to Zawame City, not only is his worst fear is true, but he discovers that his brother had been trying to kill Kouta. He takes upon himself to defeat Mitsuzane in #36, but fails to deliver the finishing blow because he remembered the brother he loved and hoped was still inside Mitsuzane, who took advantage of his hesitation to smash his armor and send him underneath the waters of Zawame City. Near the end, it turns out he was hospitalized with brain damage, but Kouta had already saved the world and fixes it, giving him and his brother (as Kouta's last request) another chance with their lives.]]
** Ryoji Hase. By #12, he's lost ''everything''. He has no Sengoku Driver, Jounochi states that he was being used, his teammates disown him...damn. [[spoiler:And to make matters worse, he is transformed into an Inves. And was then put down like a rabid dog by Sigurd. This guy could not catch a break...]]
** Mitsuzane Kureshima. [[spoiler:He lost everything, ranging from his crush on Mai to his total control due to him being ended up being as an UnwittingPawn for both Redyue and Ryoma Sengoku all along. Also, the fact that he unwillingly injured Kouta to a temporary death ended up in vain. As a result, [[TheAtoner he's atoning for his misdeeds]].]]
** [[spoiler:Takatora doesn't fare any better than Kouta does. Its revealed that he's the only one in Yggdrasil who actually cares about humanity, and is only going for the WellIntentionedExtremist route which involves wiping out an enormous portion of the population because he thinks that he had ran out of options. When Kouta presents a new path that doesn't involve a mass genocide, he grabs it the second he realizes that he can save the world. However, he is quickly betrayed by Sid, Yoko, and Ryoma, the last of which he thought of as a close friend, and told his brother who stood by watching him to help Kouta in any way he can, not knowing that Mitsuzane had already fallen. When he comes back to Zawame City, not only is his worst fear is true, but he discovers that his brother had been trying to kill Kouta. He takes upon himself to defeat Mitsuzane in #36, but fails to deliver the finishing blow because he remembered the brother he loved and hoped was still inside Mitsuzane, who took advantage of his hesitation to smash his armor and send him underneath the waters of Zawame City. Near the end, it turns out he was hospitalized with brain damage, but Kouta had already saved the world and fixes it, giving him and his brother (as Kouta's last request) another chance with their lives.]]
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* VindicatedByHistory: Mitsuzane was an incredibly polarizing character back when the show finished [[spoiler:with many fans believing he didn't deserve his redemption due to everything he has done throughout the series. However, in contrast to future ''Rider'' shows in the Reiwa era like ''Series/KamenRiderZeroOne'' or ''Series/KamenRiderGeats'' which feature villains who commit equally bad (if not worse) acts and still [[KarmaHoudini get let off]] with a [[EasilyForgiven slap on the wrist]] after giving a very vague apology at best or flat out nothing at worst, most fans (even Mitsuzane's biggest detractors) are at least willing to give Mitchy credit for owning up to what he did and [[TheAtoner devoting the rest of his life to making up for it]].]]
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* VindicatedByHistory: Mitsuzane was an [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly polarizing character character]] back when the show finished [[spoiler:with many fans believing finished, sparking arguments if he didn't deserve started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his redemption due quest to save his friends, or that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons, leading for him to gain similar hatedom as [[Series/KamenRider555 Kusaka]] for everything he has done throughout the series. series, [[spoiler:and fans feeling that he didn't deserve his redemption]]. However, as time goes by, Micchy gets more appreciation in contrast to future ''Rider'' shows in the Reiwa era like ''Series/KamenRiderZeroOne'' or ''Series/KamenRiderGeats'' which feature villains who commit equally bad (if not worse) acts a LoveToHate way, as well as getting his arc and still [[KarmaHoudini get let off]] with a [[EasilyForgiven slap on the wrist]] after giving a very vague apology at best or flat out nothing at worst, most fans (even Mitsuzane's biggest detractors) are at least willing descent to give Mitchy credit madness praised for owning up to what he did being smooth and [[TheAtoner devoting the rest of believable, leading for more CryForTheDevil towards him and a bit appreciation to his life to making up for it]].]]HeelFaceTurn that got triggered by his PTSD.
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** Ryoji Hase. By #12, he's lost ''everything''. He has no Sengoku Driver, Jounochi states that he was being used, his teammates disown him...damn. [[spoiler:And to make matters worse, he is transformed into an Inves. And was then put down like a rabid dog by Sigurd. This guy could not catch a break...]]
** IronWoobie: By #26, Kouta. [[spoiler:He find out that the end of the world is coming, that the only company with the power to do so is going to go for the WellIntentionedExtremist route, that he accidentally killed HIS MENTOR in Team Gaim. His best friend/comrade in arms have been slowly going behind his back and outright shot him, he's alone in his fight against an alien forest, and when he try to communicate with someone that can possibly stop Helhelm he got beat up for his efforts.]] [[TheDeterminator And he]] ''[[TheDeterminator still not break.]]'' He nearly did in #40. [[spoiler:Finding out that he's slowly becoming Overlord-like AND got a healthy dose of MindRape from Redyue wasn't good for his psyche]]. However, it actually managed to make him even ''more'' of an Iron Woobie.
*** In the end, [[spoiler:Kouta found himself going up against nearly everyone, from [[GangBangers rival Beat Riders]], [[{{Mooks}} the Inves]], and [[MegaCorp Yggdrassil]], to [[EvilFormerFriend Micchy]], [[EliteMooks the]] [[MonsterOfTheWeek Overlords]], [[FinalBoss and ultimately Kaito]] [[HumanoidAbomination after he becomes one]]. He even had to fight ''[[Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai Takeshi Hongo]]'' at one point, and at the end of it all, he emerges as the true victor and finally saves the world after everything he's gone through, hoping that everyone left will finally be happy again. [[EarnYourHappyEnding He truly deserved to be the one to come out on top]].]]
** [[spoiler:Takatora doesn't fare any better than Kouta does. Its revealed that he's the only one in Yggdrasil who actually cares about humanity, and is only going for the WellIntentionedExtremist route which involves wiping out an enormous portion of the population because he thinks that he had ran out of options. When Kouta presents a new path that doesn't involve a mass genocide, he grabs it the second he realizes that he can save the world. However, he is quickly betrayed by Sid, Yoko, and Ryoma, the last of which he thought of as a close friend, and told his brother who stood by watching him to help Kouta in any way he can, not knowing that Mitsuzane had already fallen. When he comes back to Zawame City, not only is his worst fear is true, but he discovers that his brother had been trying to kill Kouta. He takes upon himself to defeat Mitsuzane in #36, but fails to deliver the finishing blow because he remembered the brother he loved and hoped was still inside Mitsuzane, who took advantage of his hesitation to smash his armor and send him underneath the waters of Zawame City. Near the end, it turns out he was hospitalized with brain damage, but Kouta had already saved the world and fixes it, giving him and his brother (as Kouta's last request) another chance with their lives.]]
** Ryoji Hase. By #12, he's lost ''everything''. He has no Sengoku Driver, Jounochi states that he was being used, his teammates disown him...damn. [[spoiler:And to make matters worse, he is transformed into an Inves. And was then put down like a rabid dog by Sigurd. This guy could not catch a break...]]
** IronWoobie: By #26, Kouta. [[spoiler:He find out that the end of the world is coming, that the only company with the power to do so is going to go for the WellIntentionedExtremist route, that he accidentally killed HIS MENTOR in Team Gaim. His best friend/comrade in arms have been slowly going behind his back and outright shot him, he's alone in his fight against an alien forest, and when he try to communicate with someone that can possibly stop Helhelm he got beat up for his efforts.]] [[TheDeterminator And he]] ''[[TheDeterminator still not break.]]'' He nearly did in #40. [[spoiler:Finding out that he's slowly becoming Overlord-like AND got a healthy dose of MindRape from Redyue wasn't good for his psyche]]. However, it actually managed to make him even ''more'' of an Iron Woobie.
*** In the end, [[spoiler:Kouta found himself going up against nearly everyone, from [[GangBangers rival Beat Riders]], [[{{Mooks}} the Inves]], and [[MegaCorp Yggdrassil]], to [[EvilFormerFriend Micchy]], [[EliteMooks the]] [[MonsterOfTheWeek Overlords]], [[FinalBoss and ultimately Kaito]] [[HumanoidAbomination after he becomes one]]. He even had to fight ''[[Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai Takeshi Hongo]]'' at one point, and at the end of it all, he emerges as the true victor and finally saves the world after everything he's gone through, hoping that everyone left will finally be happy again. [[EarnYourHappyEnding He truly deserved to be the one to come out on top]].]]
** [[spoiler:Takatora doesn't fare any better than Kouta does. Its revealed that he's the only one in Yggdrasil who actually cares about humanity, and is only going for the WellIntentionedExtremist route which involves wiping out an enormous portion of the population because he thinks that he had ran out of options. When Kouta presents a new path that doesn't involve a mass genocide, he grabs it the second he realizes that he can save the world. However, he is quickly betrayed by Sid, Yoko, and Ryoma, the last of which he thought of as a close friend, and told his brother who stood by watching him to help Kouta in any way he can, not knowing that Mitsuzane had already fallen. When he comes back to Zawame City, not only is his worst fear is true, but he discovers that his brother had been trying to kill Kouta. He takes upon himself to defeat Mitsuzane in #36, but fails to deliver the finishing blow because he remembered the brother he loved and hoped was still inside Mitsuzane, who took advantage of his hesitation to smash his armor and send him underneath the waters of Zawame City. Near the end, it turns out he was hospitalized with brain damage, but Kouta had already saved the world and fixes it, giving him and his brother (as Kouta's last request) another chance with their lives.]]
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* VindicatedByHistory: Mitsuzane was an incredibly polarizing character at the time the show finished [[spoiler:with many fans believing he didn't deserve his redemption due to everything he'd done. However, in contrast to later ''Rider'' shows in the Reiwa era like ''Series/KamenRiderZeroOne'' which feature villains who commit equally bad (if not worse) acts and still [[KarmaHoudini get let off]] after giving at most a very vague apology, most fans are at least willing to give Mitchy credit for owning up to what he did and [[TheAtoner devoting the rest of his life to making up for it]].]]
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* VindicatedByHistory: Mitsuzane was an incredibly polarizing character at the time back when the show finished [[spoiler:with many fans believing he didn't deserve his redemption due to everything he'd done. he has done throughout the series. However, in contrast to later future ''Rider'' shows in the Reiwa era like ''Series/KamenRiderZeroOne'' or ''Series/KamenRiderGeats'' which feature villains who commit equally bad (if not worse) acts and still [[KarmaHoudini get let off]] with a [[EasilyForgiven slap on the wrist]] after giving at most a very vague apology, apology at best or flat out nothing at worst, most fans (even Mitsuzane's biggest detractors) are at least willing to give Mitchy credit for owning up to what he did and [[TheAtoner devoting the rest of his life to making up for it]].]]
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does agrue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does agrue argue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
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** [[TheDogWasTheMastermind DJ Sagara]], the [[GeniusLoci avatar]] of [[Characters/KamenRiderGaimHelheimForest Helheim Forest]], is the hidden mover behind the Helheim crisis who seeks to stoke change and evolution using Helheim's flora. Having absorbed the Femushinmu civilization in the past, Sagara comes to Earth after the Femushinmu Overlords prove lazy rulers to begin a new race for the Forbidden Fruit. Infiltrating the [[Characters/KamenRiderGaimYggdrasillCorporation Yggdrasill Corporation]] as the host of "Beat Rider Radio", Sagara uses the Inves Games to select candidates for his game, secretly giving the Beat Riders information and powerups to make sure things stay even. When the Overlords intervene to invade Earth, Sagara persuades the Overlord King to hold back and give humanity a chance. Later, when Mai Takatsukasa becomes the host for the Golden Fruit, Sagara tricks her into going back in time and letting his past self know everything he needs to do to bring about Helheim's chosen, making his plans go even more swimmingly. In the end, Sagara gets exactly what he wanted with [[Characters/KamenRiderGaimKoutaKazuraba Kouta Kazuraba]] claiming the Forbidden Fruit and becoming the new Man of the Beginning of Helheim, moving Helheim to a different planet to begin the cycle anew.
** [[Characters/KamenRiderGaimKaitoKumon Kaito Kumon/Kamen Rider Baron]], leader of Team Baron, proved both a key ally and WorthyOpponent to Kouta Kazuraba. Believing strength is everything, Kaito is ruthless in combating Team Gaim's lead in the Inves Games. Growing suspect of Yggdrasill's conspiracy, Kaito [[EnemyMine joins forces]] with Kouta to uncover the truth. After learning of the Helheim invasion, Kaito joins Ryoma Sengoku's inner circle, obtaining a Genesis Driver in the process. When the Overlord Inves attack Zawame, Kaito quickly organizes the Armored Riders into a united defense, earning the loyalty of a disaffected Yoko Minato. Once the Overlords are destroyed, Kaito turns to seeking the Forbidden Fruit and becoming Helheim's champion, giving up his own humanity to become an Overlord. As Lord Baron, Kaito assembles an army of Inves to claim the Forbidden Fruit and [[InTheirOwnImage remake the old world]] to one [[WellIntentionedExtremist where the weak are not oppressed by the strong]]. Defeated ultimately by Kouta, with his dying breath Kaito acknowledges Kouta as a truly worthy rival. Revived by Megahex, Kaito rebels against the being and joins Kouta in fighting it, encouraging Kouta to defend the future he fought hard for.
** [[Characters/KamenRiderGaimKaitoKumon Kaito Kumon/Kamen Rider Baron]], leader of Team Baron, proved both a key ally and WorthyOpponent to Kouta Kazuraba. Believing strength is everything, Kaito is ruthless in combating Team Gaim's lead in the Inves Games. Growing suspect of Yggdrasill's conspiracy, Kaito [[EnemyMine joins forces]] with Kouta to uncover the truth. After learning of the Helheim invasion, Kaito joins Ryoma Sengoku's inner circle, obtaining a Genesis Driver in the process. When the Overlord Inves attack Zawame, Kaito quickly organizes the Armored Riders into a united defense, earning the loyalty of a disaffected Yoko Minato. Once the Overlords are destroyed, Kaito turns to seeking the Forbidden Fruit and becoming Helheim's champion, giving up his own humanity to become an Overlord. As Lord Baron, Kaito assembles an army of Inves to claim the Forbidden Fruit and [[InTheirOwnImage remake the old world]] to one [[WellIntentionedExtremist where the weak are not oppressed by the strong]]. Defeated ultimately by Kouta, with his dying breath Kaito acknowledges Kouta as a truly worthy rival. Revived by Megahex, Kaito rebels against the being and joins Kouta in fighting it, encouraging Kouta to defend the future he fought hard for.
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** Kouta and fellow Urobuchi heroes [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka]] and [[LightNovel/FateZero Saber]] have been dubbed by some as the "[[Creator/GenUrobuchi Urobutcher]] Trinity".
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** Kouta and fellow Urobuchi heroes [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka]] and [[LightNovel/FateZero [[Literature/FateZero Saber]] have been dubbed by some as the "[[Creator/GenUrobuchi Urobutcher]] Trinity".
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** Kaito stealing a Sengoku Driver in #15 from Yggdrasil becomes hard to watch when [[spoiler:Yutaka Kobayashi gets caught for shoplifting in October 2021, and ultimately got fired from his agency in April 2022 when they got word of the incident.]]
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** Kaito stealing a Sengoku Driver in #15 from Yggdrasil becomes hard to watch when [[spoiler:Yutaka Yutaka Kobayashi gets got caught for shoplifting in October 2021, and ultimately got fired from his agency in April 2022 when they got word of the incident.]]
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** Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does agrue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
** Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does agrue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
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**BaseBreakingCharacter: Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does agrue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
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* WhatAnIdiot:
** Takatora Kureshima. You work with a trio of ObviouslyEvil individuals and are actually shocked when they betray you. Potentially mitigating (or amplifying) this sentiment is that he has seemingly worked with these people for years prior to the show's start. Slightly justified in that it was Ryou]ma who hired Sid and Yoko, and Takatora was friends with Ryoma.
** His brother isn't much better. [[spoiler:Sure, Micchy, leave an unconscious Mai who has the Forbidden Fruit inside her alone with Ryoma. I'm sure the amoral MadScientist won't cut her open to get the Fruit or anything... oh. By this point, Micchy has been driven to insanity by desperation, so he has a slight excuse for this massive lapse in judgement.]]
** Takatora Kureshima. You work with a trio of ObviouslyEvil individuals and are actually shocked when they betray you. Potentially mitigating (or amplifying) this sentiment is that he has seemingly worked with these people for years prior to the show's start. Slightly justified in that it was Ryou]ma who hired Sid and Yoko, and Takatora was friends with Ryoma.
** His brother isn't much better. [[spoiler:Sure, Micchy, leave an unconscious Mai who has the Forbidden Fruit inside her alone with Ryoma. I'm sure the amoral MadScientist won't cut her open to get the Fruit or anything... oh. By this point, Micchy has been driven to insanity by desperation, so he has a slight excuse for this massive lapse in judgement.]]
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* BaseBreakingCharacter
**Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does agrue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
**Mitsuzane is one of the most polarizing character in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does agrue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
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** [[BaseBreakingCharacter Mitsuzane as whole is one of the most polarizing character]] in Gaim and most of the debate comes from whether he ''deserve'' to be redeemed?. Those who believe he does agrue that he started off [[WellIntentionedExtremist with good intentions]] and was ultimately more of a misguided kid who suffered SanitySlippage in his quest to save his friends. Those who believe he doesn't argue that said SanitySlippage lead to some serious MotiveDecay, that he crossed the MoralEventHorizon several times and his [[MurderTheHypotenuse multiple attempted murder of one of his best friends]] was actually for petty and stupid reasons. Kota and Takatota's forgiveness of Micchy and his subsequent redemption in episode 47 and the [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive crossover film]] deepened the divide and leaves Micchy as either an misguided person who deserves an second chance or an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini who crossed too many lines.
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** Kaito stealing a Sengoku Driver in #15 from Yggdrasil becomes hard to watch when [[spoiler:Yutaka Kobayashi gets caught for shoplifting in October 2021, and ultimately got fired from his agency in April 2022 when they got word of the incident.]]
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** Likewise, Mai giving an ArmorPiercingSlap to the aformentioned [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #26 is also equally satisfying and well-deserved after [[spoiler:his actions in his growing obsessive phase. Unfortunately though, this makes Micchy even worse and cements his turn into the villainous side further.]]
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** Likewise, Mai giving an ArmorPiercingSlap to slapping the aformentioned [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #26 is also equally satisfying and well-deserved after [[spoiler:his actions in his growing obsessive phase. Unfortunately though, this makes Micchy even worse and cements his turn into the villainous side further.]]
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** Creator/HochuOtsuka, the narrator of this series, voiced a character in the [[HumongousMecha mecha]] anime ''[[Anime/HeavyMetalLGaim Heavy Metal L-]][[NamesTheSame Gaim]]''.
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** Creator/HochuOtsuka, the narrator of this series, voiced a character in the [[HumongousMecha mecha]] anime ''[[Anime/HeavyMetalLGaim Heavy Metal L-]][[NamesTheSame Gaim]]''.L-Gaim]]''.
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**The Sengoku Driver has a grand total of 4 tracks... and that's only for the ''standby loops''.
***The drivers used by (Bujin) Gaim, Kamuro, Zangetsu, Kurokage and Mars/Jam play Japanese horagai music and announce "Soiya" before every transformation, particularly fitting the series Japanese samurai motif.
***The drivers used by Baron, Gridon, Duke, and Idunn play European trumpet music and announce "Come On" in perfect English. Given the amount of class featured by all but Gridon, this is rather fitting.
***The drivers used by Oren and Zack play American rock & roll music and emit a guitar riff sound before every transformation. Both are very flashy and bombastic and have become fan favorites very quickly, and this standby in particular fits very well with them.
***The fourth track variation is used ''exclusively'' by Mitsuzane, and plays Chinese erhu & gong music and announces "Hai" before every transformation. Given Micchy's status as the ''Gaim'' cast's black sheep, it's not ''too'' inappropriate.
***The drivers used by (Bujin) Gaim, Kamuro, Zangetsu, Kurokage and Mars/Jam play Japanese horagai music and announce "Soiya" before every transformation, particularly fitting the series Japanese samurai motif.
***The drivers used by Baron, Gridon, Duke, and Idunn play European trumpet music and announce "Come On" in perfect English. Given the amount of class featured by all but Gridon, this is rather fitting.
***The drivers used by Oren and Zack play American rock & roll music and emit a guitar riff sound before every transformation. Both are very flashy and bombastic and have become fan favorites very quickly, and this standby in particular fits very well with them.
***The fourth track variation is used ''exclusively'' by Mitsuzane, and plays Chinese erhu & gong music and announces "Hai" before every transformation. Given Micchy's status as the ''Gaim'' cast's black sheep, it's not ''too'' inappropriate.
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** Likewise, Mai giving an ArmorPiercingSlap to the aformentioned [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #26 is also equally satisfying and well-deserved after [[his actions in his growing obsessive phase. Unfortunately though, this makes Micchy even worse and cements his turn into the villainous side further.]]
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** Likewise, Mai giving an ArmorPiercingSlap to the aformentioned [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #26 is also equally satisfying and well-deserved after [[his [[spoiler:his actions in his growing obsessive phase. Unfortunately though, this makes Micchy even worse and cements his turn into the villainous side further.]]
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* CatharsisFactor: It must be very satisfying for a lot of viewers to see [[spoiler:Yoko Minato]] deliver an extremely well-deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #34. [[spoiler:At that time, Micchi has stabbed Kouta behind his back so many times and has already committed so many questionable acts that seeing her telling him off like that is incredibly wonderful. He totally deserved that speech.]]
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* CatharsisFactor: CatharsisFactor:
** It must be very satisfying for a lot of viewers to see [[spoiler:Yoko Minato]] deliver an extremely well-deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #34. [[spoiler:At that time, Micchi has stabbed Kouta behind his back so many times and has already committed so many questionable acts that seeing her telling him off like that is incredibly wonderful. He totally deserved that speech.]]
** Likewise, Mai giving an ArmorPiercingSlap to the aformentioned [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #26 is also equally satisfying and well-deserved after [[his actions in his growing obsessive phase. Unfortunately though, this makes Micchy even worse and cements his turn into the villainous side further.]]
** It must be very satisfying for a lot of viewers to see [[spoiler:Yoko Minato]] deliver an extremely well-deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #34. [[spoiler:At that time, Micchi has stabbed Kouta behind his back so many times and has already committed so many questionable acts that seeing her telling him off like that is incredibly wonderful. He totally deserved that speech.]]
** Likewise, Mai giving an ArmorPiercingSlap to the aformentioned [[spoiler:Micchy]] in #26 is also equally satisfying and well-deserved after [[his actions in his growing obsessive phase. Unfortunately though, this makes Micchy even worse and cements his turn into the villainous side further.]]
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* RefrainFromAssuming: The song for Gaim's final form isn't "Kiwami Escalation" like some have thought, but rather "''Ranbu'' Escalation".
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** Another nickname relating to translations but not involving the subs this time, Takatora is sometimes called "Hawktiger" because his given name is a homophone for the Japanese words for those animals (though it actually translates as "Noble Tiger"). Of course, ''Kamen Rider'' fans would recognize those as two of the three animals which make up Series/KamenRiderOOO's Tatoba Combo, leading to the creation of a humorous picture of our Overseer with grasshopper legs to complete the trio. Doubles as AwesomeMcCoolname.
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** Another nickname relating to translations but not involving the subs this time, Takatora is sometimes called "Hawktiger" because his given name is a homophone for the Japanese words for those animals (though it actually translates as "Noble Tiger"). Of course, ''Kamen Rider'' fans would recognize those as two of the three animals which make up Series/KamenRiderOOO's Tatoba Combo, leading to the creation of a humorous picture of our Overseer with grasshopper legs to complete the trio. Doubles as AwesomeMcCoolname.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff:
** Gaim is likely one of the most beloved series in the Western fandom. While it's certainly not hated, Gaim's reputation in Japan is significantly more mixed, being only the 12th most popular Kamen Rider series in NHK's poll. Detractors most frequently cite the goofiness of the fruits motif, and the much darker tone of the series as reasons for their distaste.
** Gaim is likely one of the most beloved series in the Western fandom. While it's certainly not hated, Gaim's reputation in Japan is significantly more mixed, being only the 12th most popular Kamen Rider series in NHK's poll. Detractors most frequently cite the goofiness of the fruits motif, and the much darker tone of the series as reasons for their distaste.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff:
**GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Gaim is likely one of the most beloved series in the Western fandom. While it's certainly not hated, Gaim's reputation in Japan is significantly more mixed, being only the 12th most popular Kamen Rider series in NHK's poll. Detractors most frequently cite the goofiness of the fruits motif, and the much darker tone of the series as reasons for their distaste.
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