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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a [[AbusiveParents physically and verbally abusive father]], and he often got into skirmishes with random people. Of course, any sympathy you might have for him is immediately disintegrated when he shows how much of a [[CompleteMonster monster]] he really is by assaulting Erina and [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals immolating Jonathan's dog in the furnace]] at the end of the first episode.
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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a [[AbusiveParents physically and verbally abusive father]], and he often got into skirmishes with random people. Of course, any sympathy you might have for him is immediately disintegrated when he shows how much of a [[CompleteMonster monster]] he really is by assaulting assaults Erina and [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals immolating immolates Jonathan's dog in the furnace]] at the end of the first episode.
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** [[CaptainObvious "Even Speedwagon is afraid!"]][[labelnote:Explanation]]A panel of a frightened Speedwagon with Jonathan NarratingTheObvious after Dio reveals his newfound vampire powers. Some interpret this as Speedwagon himself talking in third person, which wouldn't seem out of place due to his personality.[[/labelnote]]
*** It's fun to make variations of his name: Speedbump, Rapidtrolley, Fastkart, Velocityvehicle, [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit Co-Producer Speed Weed]]... who is nervous, impressed, timid, astounded...
*** "Speedwagon withdraws coolly."
*** Speedwagon also has the FanNickname {{Moe}}wagon, due to his devotion and support of Jonathan.
*** Speedwagon is best girl.
** "You thought this would be [X], but it was I, Dio!" (alternatively for the one after comma: "Kono Dio da!") [[labelnote:Explanation]]Another Dio classic. Originally, it was a boast to Erina about [[ForcefulKiss stealing her first kiss]] from Jonathan during the start of ''Phantom Blood''. The phrase got so popular that it's used as a punchline for a BaitAndSwitch joke for just about everything, to the point that it's on the verge of becoming a DiscreditedMeme for many Jojo fans.[[/labelnote]]
*** Dio's ''Stardust Crusaders'' [[Creator/PatrickSeitz dub VA]] seemed to be aware enough of this [[https://twitter.com/Seitz_Unseen/status/481290750089392128 to use it as confirmation to who he was voicing.]]
*** The English dub even uses that specific phrasing when the original line was closer to "Your first [kiss] wasn't [=JoJo=]. It was I, Dio!"
---->'''Dio:''' You thought your first kiss would be [=JoJo=], but it was I, Dio!
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjtA30DQdDU "Bastard... How many lives have you sucked to heal those wounds?"]]
*** [[ButForMeItWasTuesday "Do you remember how many]] [[{{Narm}} breads you have eaten in your life?"]][[labelnote:Explanation]]One of the oldest memes in the fandom. The comparison is so silly it's funny. Just change "lifes sucked" and "bread" with other words and it's hilariously exploitable.[[/labelnote]]
** "NANI WO SURUNDA!? [[ThisIsUnforgivable YURUSAN!!!]]" [[labelnote: Explanation]]Jonathan's surprise/shock when Dio [[KickTheDog kicks his dog for no reason]], with the phrase itself being a typo. Despite saying it only once as a kid it became his CatchPhrase and videogame taunt (likely due to the aforementioned grammatical error). It was used a lot on forums to show surprise/shock.[[/labelnote]]
*** [[SayMyName "DIOOOOOOOOO!!!"]][[labelnote:Explanation]]Said when Jonathan discovers [[BerserkButton Dio kissed Erina by force]], and picks a fight with him. People usually make use of this quote when Dio appears or does something evil.[[/labelnote]]
** "[[GreaterScopeVillain Dio]] [[DracoInLeatherPants did]] [[AxCrazy no]][[KickTheDog thi]][[HeroKiller ng]] [[FreudianExcuse wrong]]!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]A tongue-in-cheek way of justifying the absolutely horrid acts Dio did, such as: "Danny attacked Dio first", or "Dio accidentally bought poison from Wang Chan thinking it was medicine and gave it to George".[[/labelnote]]
** [[http://youtu.be/gsxXvKnuZ7s Goodbye, JoJo!]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]Dio has a propensity for GratuitousEnglish in the 2012 anime, and delivers the line with some pretty awkward pronunciation and emphasis, along with the fact that he sounds like Kermit the Frog as he says it.[[/labelnote]]
** You Fell for It Fool! Thunder Cross Split Attack! [[labelnote:Explanation]]Used as a form of BaitAndSwitch, the Jojo fandom's form of JustForFun/{{Rickroll}}[[/labelnote]]
*** It's fun to make variations of his name: Speedbump, Rapidtrolley, Fastkart, Velocityvehicle, [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit Co-Producer Speed Weed]]... who is nervous, impressed, timid, astounded...
*** "Speedwagon withdraws coolly."
*** Speedwagon also has the FanNickname {{Moe}}wagon, due to his devotion and support of Jonathan.
*** Speedwagon is best girl.
** "You thought this would be [X], but it was I, Dio!" (alternatively for the one after comma: "Kono Dio da!") [[labelnote:Explanation]]Another Dio classic. Originally, it was a boast to Erina about [[ForcefulKiss stealing her first kiss]] from Jonathan during the start of ''Phantom Blood''. The phrase got so popular that it's used as a punchline for a BaitAndSwitch joke for just about everything, to the point that it's on the verge of becoming a DiscreditedMeme for many Jojo fans.[[/labelnote]]
*** Dio's ''Stardust Crusaders'' [[Creator/PatrickSeitz dub VA]] seemed to be aware enough of this [[https://twitter.com/Seitz_Unseen/status/481290750089392128 to use it as confirmation to who he was voicing.]]
*** The English dub even uses that specific phrasing when the original line was closer to "Your first [kiss] wasn't [=JoJo=]. It was I, Dio!"
---->'''Dio:''' You thought your first kiss would be [=JoJo=], but it was I, Dio!
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjtA30DQdDU "Bastard... How many lives have you sucked to heal those wounds?"]]
*** [[ButForMeItWasTuesday "Do you remember how many]] [[{{Narm}} breads you have eaten in your life?"]][[labelnote:Explanation]]One of the oldest memes in the fandom. The comparison is so silly it's funny. Just change "lifes sucked" and "bread" with other words and it's hilariously exploitable.[[/labelnote]]
** "NANI WO SURUNDA!? [[ThisIsUnforgivable YURUSAN!!!]]" [[labelnote: Explanation]]Jonathan's surprise/shock when Dio [[KickTheDog kicks his dog for no reason]], with the phrase itself being a typo. Despite saying it only once as a kid it became his CatchPhrase and videogame taunt (likely due to the aforementioned grammatical error). It was used a lot on forums to show surprise/shock.[[/labelnote]]
*** [[SayMyName "DIOOOOOOOOO!!!"]][[labelnote:Explanation]]Said when Jonathan discovers [[BerserkButton Dio kissed Erina by force]], and picks a fight with him. People usually make use of this quote when Dio appears or does something evil.[[/labelnote]]
** "[[GreaterScopeVillain Dio]] [[DracoInLeatherPants did]] [[AxCrazy no]][[KickTheDog thi]][[HeroKiller ng]] [[FreudianExcuse wrong]]!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]A tongue-in-cheek way of justifying the absolutely horrid acts Dio did, such as: "Danny attacked Dio first", or "Dio accidentally bought poison from Wang Chan thinking it was medicine and gave it to George".[[/labelnote]]
** [[http://youtu.be/gsxXvKnuZ7s Goodbye, JoJo!]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]Dio has a propensity for GratuitousEnglish in the 2012 anime, and delivers the line with some pretty awkward pronunciation and emphasis, along with the fact that he sounds like Kermit the Frog as he says it.[[/labelnote]]
** You Fell for It Fool! Thunder Cross Split Attack! [[labelnote:Explanation]]Used as a form of BaitAndSwitch, the Jojo fandom's form of JustForFun/{{Rickroll}}[[/labelnote]]
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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a [[AbusiveParents physically and verbally abusive father, father]], and he often got into skirmishes with random people. Of course, any sympathy you might have for him is immediately disintegrated when he shows how much of a [[CompleteMonster monster]] he really is by assaulting Erina and [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals immolating Jonathan's dog in the furnace furnace]] at the end of the first episode.
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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a physically and verbally abusive father, and he often got into skirmishes with random people. Of course, any sympathy you might have for him is immediately disintegrated when he shows how much of a [[CompleteMonster monster]] he really is by assaulting Erina and immolating Jonathan's dog in the furnace at the end of the first episode.
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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a physically and verbally abusive father, and he often got into skirmishes with random people. Of course, any sympathy you might have for him is immediately disintegrated when he shows how much of a [[CompeteMonster [[CompleteMonster monster]] he is by assaulting Erina and immolating Jonathan's dog in the furnace at the end of the first episode.
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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a physically and verbally abusive father, and he often got into skirmishes with random people. Of course, any and all sympathy you might have for him is immediately disintegrated when he assaults shows how much of a [[CompeteMonster monster]] he is by assaulting Erina and immolates immolating Jonathan's dog in the furnace at the end of the first episode.
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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a physically and verbally abusive father, and he was often on the losing end of fights got into skirmishes with other random people. Of course, any and all sympathy you have for him is immediately disintegrated when he assaults Erina and immolates Jonathan's dog at the end of the first episode.
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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a physically and verbally abusive father, and he was often on the losing end of fights with other people. Of course, any and all sympathy you could have for him is immediately disintegrated when he assaults Erina and immolates Jonathan's dog at the end of the first episode.
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* CryForTheDevil: Despite how horrible he is, it's easy to feel a bit bad for Dio in the beginning - he grew up poor and impoverished in the slums, his mother died when he was young, forcing him to grow up with a physically and verbally abusive father, and he was often on the losing end of fights with other people. Of course, any sympathy you could have for him is immediately disintegrated when he assaults Erina and immolates Jonathan's dog at the end of the first episode.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 game based off of Part 1 is generally less well received compared to either the ''Stardust Crusaders'' or ''Golden Wind'' games. The game's clunky combat system, where the lack of a lockon feature combined with CameraScrew means having to constantly redirect Jonathan and center the camera just by pressing block while enemies move around far faster and thrash the player, and the Heat move mechanic can't decide if rotating the stick just about fails to fill the entire bar or doesn't even make it budge. The difficulty curve is schizophrenic too with battles either being comically easy or horrid slogs. The game's slavish devotion to being an adaptation of ''Phantom Blood'' ultimately hurts it as not only does it reproduce manga panels with ingame graphics poorly, but half of the game's combat system, the Hamon mechanic, is locked out for the first half of the story for the sake of plot, making Jonathan feel extremely clunky, and making some battles far harder than they need to be (such as the bullies somehow being harder than Dio). While LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters are present, many of them are redundant as many are either alternate versions of Jonathan or Dio, or play identical to another character anyway (Sledgehammer Speedwagon and Spear Jonathan play exactly the same, for one) and its still let down by the lack of a free battle mode letting players really take advantage of the roster. Those, coupled with bland art and sound direction led to the game being panned compared to its predecessors.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 game based off of Part 1 is generally less well received compared to either the ''Stardust Crusaders'' or ''Golden Wind'' games. The game's clunky combat system, where the lack of a lockon feature combined with CameraScrew means having to constantly redirect Jonathan and center the camera just by pressing block while enemies move around far faster and thrash the player, and the Heat move mechanic can't decide if rotating the stick just about fails to fill the entire bar or doesn't even make it budge. The difficulty curve is schizophrenic too with battles either being comically easy or horrid slogs. The game's slavish devotion to being an adaptation of ''Phantom Blood'' ultimately hurts it as not only does it reproduce manga panels with ingame graphics poorly, but half of the game's combat system, the Hamon mechanic, is locked out for the first half of the story for the sake of plot, making Jonathan feel extremely clunky, and making some battles far harder than they need to be (such as the bullies somehow being harder than Dio). While LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters many characters are present, many of them are redundant as many are either alternate versions of Jonathan or Dio, or play identical to another character anyway (Sledgehammer Speedwagon and Spear Jonathan play exactly the same, for one) and its still let down by the lack of a free battle mode letting players really take advantage of the roster. Those, coupled with bland art and sound direction led to the game being panned compared to its predecessors.
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*** It's fun to make variations of [[AwesomeMcCoolname his name]]: Speedbump, Rapidtrolley, Fastkart, Velocityvehicle, [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit Co-Producer Speed Weed]]... who is nervous, impressed, timid, astounded...
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*** It's fun to make variations of [[AwesomeMcCoolname his name]]: name: Speedbump, Rapidtrolley, Fastkart, Velocityvehicle, [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit Co-Producer Speed Weed]]... who is nervous, impressed, timid, astounded...
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I'm sure there's a more succinct way to put this but the general vibe I got from fans about PS 2 Phantom Blood was that it generally wasn't very good. We actually have it listed on the main "PWLG" page anyway.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 game based off of Part 1 is generally less well received compared to either the ''Stardust Crusaders'' or ''Golden Wind'' games. The game's clunky combat system, where the lack of a lockon feature combined with CameraScrew means having to constantly redirect Jonathan and center the camera just by pressing block while enemies move around far faster and thrash the player, and the Heat move mechanic can't decide if rotating the stick just about fails to fill the entire bar or doesn't even make it budge. The difficulty curve is schizophrenic too with battles either being comically easy or horrid slogs. The game's slavish devotion to being an adaptation of ''Phantom Blood'' ultimately hurts it as not only does it reproduce manga panels with ingame graphics poorly, but half of the game's combat system, the Hamon mechanic, is locked out for the first half of the story for the sake of plot, making Jonathan feel extremely clunky, and making some battles far harder than they need to be (such as the bullies somehow being harder than Dio). While LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters are present, many of them are redundant as many are either alternate versions of Jonathan or Dio, or play identical to another character anyway (Sledgehammer Speedwagon and Spear Jonathan play exactly the same, for one) and its still let down by the lack of a free battle mode letting players really take advantage of the roster. Those, coupled with bland art and sound direction led to the game being panned compared to its predecessors.
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* StoicWoobie: Erina has lost her first kiss, her newlywed husband, her son (indirectly), and her daughter-in-law (though she did find her again eventually) to Dio by the time in ''Battle Tendency'' where she's in her 70s, yet keeps a stoic, but exceptionally kind personality that normally wouldn't be seen from women born in her time.
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* StoicWoobie: Erina has lost her first kiss, her newlywed husband, her son (indirectly), and her daughter-in-law (though she did find her again eventually) to Dio by the time in of ''Battle Tendency'' where she's in her 70s, yet keeps a stoic, but exceptionally kind personality that normally wouldn't be seen from women born in her time.
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* MemeticBadass: Speedwagon, despite being a BadassNormal, is treated as this by the fanbase, with many proclaiming him to be the strongest character in the franchise.
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* {{Narm}}: The way Poco calls out [[TheNameless “MY SISTER!”]] After finding out she was taken by Dio. Even Poco doesn’t know his sister’s name it seems.
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* {{Narm}}: The way Poco calls out [[TheNameless “MY SISTER!”]] "MY SISTER!"]] After finding out she was taken by Dio. Even Poco doesn’t doesn't know his sister’s name sister's name, it seems.seems.
* NoYay: Jonathan and Dio could be considered this, despite Jonathan's [[spoiler:continued forgiveness of Dio and Part 3's scenes of Dio feeling up Jonathan's body]]. They are regardless adoptive siblings with George referring to them both as his children and Jonathan's love for Dio being more brotherly than anything.
* NoYay: Jonathan and Dio could be considered this, despite Jonathan's [[spoiler:continued forgiveness of Dio and Part 3's scenes of Dio feeling up Jonathan's body]]. They are regardless adoptive siblings with George referring to them both as his children and Jonathan's love for Dio being more brotherly than anything.
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* {{No Yay}} Jonathan and Dio could be considered this, despite Jonathan's [[spoiler: continued forgiveness of Dio and Part 3's scene's of Dio feeling up Jonathan's body.]] they are regardless adoptive siblings with George referring to them both as his children and Jonathan's love for Dio being more brotherly than anything.
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** The dub changes one of Dio's lines from "A monkey cannot stand against a human!" to "A mere monkey can never defeat a lion!" While the original line calls to mind an evolutionary hierarchy appropriate to Dio transcending humanity, primates certainly ''can'' stand against humans in a fight. Dio instead comparing himself to the KingOfBeasts is perfectly appropriate.
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** The dub changes one of Dio's lines from "A monkey cannot stand against a human!" to "A mere monkey can never defeat a lion!" While the original line calls to mind an evolutionary hierarchy appropriate to Dio transcending humanity, primates certainly ''can'' stand against humans in a fight. Dio instead comparing himself to the KingOfBeasts is perfectly appropriate.appropriate.
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* UncannyValley: The anime often falls into this thanks to the very still and inexpressive characters that resulted from its low animation budget. Jonathan is the most common victim of this, though the Blu-ray/DVD releases fixed most of the faces.
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* StoicWoobie: Erina has lost her first kiss, her newlywed husband, her son (indirectly), and her daughter-in-law (though she did find her again eventually) to Dio by the time in ''Battle Tendency'' where she's in her 70s, yet keeps a stoic, but has an exceptionally kind personality that normally wouldn't be seen from women born in her time.
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* StoicWoobie: Erina has lost her first kiss, her newlywed husband, her son (indirectly), and her daughter-in-law (though she did find her again eventually) to Dio by the time in ''Battle Tendency'' where she's in her 70s, yet keeps a stoic, but has an exceptionally kind personality that normally wouldn't be seen from women born in her time.
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* {{Starboarding}}: Speedwagon → Jonathan. Speedwagon's extraordinary devotion to Jonathan is obviously very commonly interpreted as HoYay, but Jonathan ends up in an OfficialCouple with Erina, and [[spoiler:gets killed by Dio on the first night of their honeymoon]], so there's no way that a relationship between the two can fit in canon. Because of this, fans commonly interpret Speedwagon as having a one-sided crush on Jonathan, who [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy still supports his relationship with Erina]] despite the heartbreak. This is further supported by ''Manga/BattleTendency'''s epilogue, which states that [[spoiler:Speedwagon died of a heart attack at an old age, while having never married ("he never married" was used in England as an euphemism for homosexuality)]], implying that Speedwagon was never able to move on from his feelings for Jonathan.
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* {{Starboarding}}: Speedwagon → Jonathan. Speedwagon's extraordinary devotion to Jonathan is obviously very commonly interpreted as HoYay, but Jonathan ends up in an OfficialCouple with Erina, and [[spoiler:gets killed by Dio on the first night of their honeymoon]], so there's no way that a relationship between the two can fit in canon. Because of this, fans commonly interpret Speedwagon as having a one-sided crush on Jonathan, who [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy still supports his relationship with Erina]] despite the heartbreak. This is further supported by ''Manga/BattleTendency'''s epilogue, which states that [[spoiler:Speedwagon died of a heart attack at an old age, while having never married ("he never married" married/[[ConfirmedBachelor lifelong bachelor]]" was used in England as an euphemism for homosexuality)]], implying that Speedwagon was never able to move on from his feelings for Jonathan.
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** Jonathan Joestar is definitely this amongst the fanbase when it comes to ranking him amongst the other Jojos. Some fans admire him for being an AllLovingHero with a [[IncorruptiblePurePureness heart of gold]] [[spoiler: [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth whose death is absolutely heartbreaking,]]]] while his detractors see him as a [[VanillaProtagonist bland, generic good guy]] whose descendants are much more entertaining to watch due to being [[GoodIsNotNice the exact opposite of him.]] That being said, nobody really ''dislikes'' Jonathan in the traditional sense of BaseBreakingCharacter (he's fairly well-liked), it's more an argument of how he stacks up against the other Jojos.
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** Jonathan Joestar is definitely this amongst the fanbase when it comes to ranking him amongst the other Jojos. Some fans admire him for being an AllLovingHero with a [[IncorruptiblePurePureness heart of gold]] [[spoiler: [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth whose death is absolutely heartbreaking,]]]] while his detractors see him as a [[VanillaProtagonist bland, generic good guy]] whose descendants are much more entertaining to watch due to being [[GoodIsNotNice the exact opposite of him.]] That being said, nobody really ''dislikes'' Jonathan in the traditional sense of BaseBreakingCharacter (he's fairly well-liked), it's more an argument of how he stacks up against the other Jojos.
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** Jonathan Joestar is definitely this amongst the fanbase when it comes to ranking him amongst the other Jojos. Some fans admire him for being an AllLovingHero with a [[IncorruptiblePurePureness heart of gold]] [[spoiler: [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth whose death is absolutely heartbreaking,]]]] while his detractors see him as a [[VanillaProtagonist bland, generic good guy]] whose descendants are much more entertaining to watch due to being [[GoodIsNotNice the exact opposite of him.]]
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** Jonathan Joestar is definitely this amongst the fanbase when it comes to ranking him amongst the other Jojos. Some fans admire him for being an AllLovingHero with a [[IncorruptiblePurePureness heart of gold]] [[spoiler: [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth whose death is absolutely heartbreaking,]]]] while his detractors see him as a [[VanillaProtagonist bland, generic good guy]] whose descendants are much more entertaining to watch due to being [[GoodIsNotNice the exact opposite of him.]]]] That being said, nobody really ''dislikes'' Jonathan in the traditional sense of BaseBreakingCharacter (he's fairly well-liked), it's more an argument of how he stacks up against the other Jojos.
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* FanPreferredCouple: While the canon pairing of Jonathan/Erina is well-liked, in Japan, Jonathan/Dio is a lot more popular due to their charged conflict with high amounts of FoeYay, fueled by Dio's own bisexuality and obsession with Jonathan.
* FoeYay: Jonathan x Dio, especially when you consider that [[spoiler: when Jonathan dies he still considers Dio a brother, and Dio would end up using Jonathan's body to support his head.]]
* FoeYay: Jonathan x Dio, especially when you consider that [[spoiler: when Jonathan dies he still considers Dio a brother, and Dio would end up using Jonathan's body to support his head.]]
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* FanPreferredCouple: While the canon pairing of Jonathan/Erina is well-liked, in Japan, Jonathan/Dio [[FoeYayShipping Jonathan/Dio]] is a lot more popular due to their charged conflict being charged with high amounts of FoeYay, perceived subtext, fueled by Dio's own bisexuality and obsession with Jonathan.
*FoeYay: FoeYayShipping: Jonathan x Dio, Dio is a surprisingly popular, if controversial, pairing. Obviously, Dio's obsession with Jonathan is easy to read as romantic in nature, especially towards the end when you consider that [[spoiler: when Jonathan dies he still considers Dio a brother, and Dio would end up using literally tries to [[GrandTheftMe take over Jonathan's body to support body]]. Jonathan [[spoiler:[[GoOutWithASmile going out with a smile]] while cradling Dio's head in his head.]]arms]] doesn't help.
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** Jonathan Joestar is definitely this amongst the fanbase when it comes to ranking him amongst the other Jojos. Some fans admire him for being an AllLovingHero with a [[IncorruptiblePurePureness heart of gold]] [[spoiler: [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth whose death is all the more heartbreaking,]]]] while his detractors see him as a [[VanillaProtagonist bland, generic good guy]] whose descendants are much more entertaining to watch due to being [[GoodIsNotNice the exact opposite of him.]]
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** Jonathan Joestar is definitely this amongst the fanbase when it comes to ranking him amongst the other Jojos. Some fans admire him for being an AllLovingHero with a [[IncorruptiblePurePureness heart of gold]] [[spoiler: [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth whose death is all the more absolutely heartbreaking,]]]] while his detractors see him as a [[VanillaProtagonist bland, generic good guy]] whose descendants are much more entertaining to watch due to being [[GoodIsNotNice the exact opposite of him.]]
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: George Joestar. While some fans admire him for being a prime example of TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth and HonorBeforeReason in taking in Dio and forgiving both Dio and Dario despite knowing how evil they are, others decry his preferential treatment of Dio over Jonathan as unfair and even abusive towards the latter. Some fans even claim that said treatment and George's HorribleJudgeOfCharacter regarding the Brandos in general is what ultimately [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom enabled Dio to become the villain he is]].
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** Jonathan Joestar is definitely this amongst the fanbase when it comes to ranking him amongst the other Jojos. Some fans admire him for being an AllLovingHero with a [[IncorruptiblePurePureness heart of gold]] [[spoiler: [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth whose death is all the more heartbreaking,]]]] while his detractors see him as a [[VanillaProtagonist bland, generic good guy]] whose descendants are much more entertaining to watch due to being [[GoodIsNotNice the exact opposite of him.]]
** George Joestar. While some fans admire him for being a prime example of TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth and HonorBeforeReason in taking in Dio and forgiving both Dio and Dario despite knowing how evil they are, others decry his preferential treatment of Dio over Jonathan as unfair and even abusive towards the latter. Some fans even claim that said treatment and George's HorribleJudgeOfCharacter regarding the Brandos in general is what ultimately [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom enabled Dio to become the villain he is]].
** Jonathan Joestar is definitely this amongst the fanbase when it comes to ranking him amongst the other Jojos. Some fans admire him for being an AllLovingHero with a [[IncorruptiblePurePureness heart of gold]] [[spoiler: [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth whose death is all the more heartbreaking,]]]] while his detractors see him as a [[VanillaProtagonist bland, generic good guy]] whose descendants are much more entertaining to watch due to being [[GoodIsNotNice the exact opposite of him.]]
** George Joestar. While some fans admire him for being a prime example of TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth and HonorBeforeReason in taking in Dio and forgiving both Dio and Dario despite knowing how evil they are, others decry his preferential treatment of Dio over Jonathan as unfair and even abusive towards the latter. Some fans even claim that said treatment and George's HorribleJudgeOfCharacter regarding the Brandos in general is what ultimately [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom enabled Dio to become the villain he is]].
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** In the Latin American Spanish dub, Jonathan's voice actor, Ricardo Bautista, previously voiced the vampire Kanato Sakamaki in the dub of ''VisualNovel/DiabolikLovers'', whose main speciality is to [[ForcedKiss force his love interest, Yui Komori, to kiss him]]. In this series, Jonathan's own love interest, Erina Pendleton, was force-kissed by Dio, through he did it before he became a vampire later on. This is even more hilarious (or worse) if you take into account Jonathan and Erina's voice actors in that dub are a couple in real life.
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** In the Latin American Spanish dub, Jonathan's voice actor, Ricardo Bautista, previously voiced the vampire Kanato Ayato Sakamaki in the dub of ''VisualNovel/DiabolikLovers'', whose main speciality is to [[ForcedKiss force his love interest, Yui Komori, to kiss him]]. In this series, Jonathan's own love interest, Erina Pendleton, was force-kissed by Dio, through he did it before he became a vampire later on. This is even more hilarious (or worse) if you take into account Jonathan and Erina's voice actors in that dub are a couple in real life.
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** In the Latin American Spanish dub, Jonathan's voice actor, Ricardo Bautista, previously voiced the vampire Kanato Sakamaki in the dub of ''VisualNovel/DiabolikLovers'', whose main speciality is to [[ForcedKiss force his love interest, Yui Komori, to kiss him]]. In this series, Jonathan's own love interest, Erina Pendleton, was force-kissed by Dio, through he did it before he became a vampire later on. This is even more hilarious (or worse) if you take into account Jonathan and Erina's voice actors in that dub are a couple in real life.
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** When being attacked by a drunkard-turned-vampire, Dio quips "Must my last sight on Earth be this damnable sun?!". [[spoiler: After being eviscerated and drained of his blood in [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Part 3]], the sun is indeed what finishes him off.]]
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** When being attacked by a drunkard-turned-vampire, Dio quips "Must my last sight on Earth be this damnable sun?!". [[spoiler: After being eviscerated and drained of his blood in [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Part 3]], the sun is indeed what finishes him off.]]
