History YMMV / Hololive

** Following the above rumor being dispelled, the inverse began to circulate in its place as a continued dig at the branch, that certain interactions with Holostars were being "forced" on Hololive or that management is conspiring to astroturf their presence. No sound evidence exists to support any of these claims, and attempts to spread them are frequently rebuffed as so.

** As [=EVO=] 2023 and prolific creators like Koefficient have shown, there is an oddly large overlap between the UsefulNotes/FightingGameCommunity and hololive.

*** [[https://youtu.be/_wZB2vmqPuU Her 3D "dance lesson" collaboration with Marine]] was bound to have this happen, given their personalities. Highlights include getting Marine to say [[LovableSexManiac "I'm horny!"]] enthusiastically in English, as well as [[AssShove helping her use Insertion-type Asacoco]] twice; the first time the screen was blurred out, but the second time it was fully visible; it stands to reason that at that point the supervising staff just gave up on trying to stop them. They eventually revealed that the reason it was allowed was simply that Marine is already considered "impure" enough that it didn't matter that the content was quite sexualized. Had it been one of the more "pure" idol-like members such as Luna, Aki Rose or Sora, the managers would have put a stop to it.

** As [=EVO=] 2023 and prolific creators like Koefficient have shown there is an oddly large overlap between the UsefulNotes/FightingGameCommunity and hololive.

** As [=EVO=] 2023 and prolific creators like Koefficient have shown there is a oddly large overlap between the UsefulNotes/FightingGameCommunity and hololive.

*** Building more on the JP Idol culture's reaction to male/female interactions we can see this pretty heavily in the way the JP fans and talents treat Holostars compared to EN and ID. While Cover Corp has no restriction on male/female interaction, there is virtually no interaction between Hololive JP and Holostars outside of special events and when asked it's a nigh-universal hard "'''NO'''" on collabs, and the exceptions amongst the Hololive JP talents being the minority[[labelnote:The talents in question]]Sora, Fubuki, Matsuri, Roboco, Subaru, Suisei, Choco, Towa, Polka, Mel, La+, Akirose, and the [=ReGLOSS=] members[[/labelnote]]. EN fares somewhat better, with a higher proportion of talents interacting with the Stars, but still remaining a minority to those who do not (with some who won't so much as acknowledge them) -- a matter complicated by occasional {{Flame War}}s & related pushbacks from trolls and particularly rabid fans. The ID girls, by complete contrast with both, have all been frequently collaborating with the boys since the beginning of the branch with almost zero complaints. The very few times someone tries to make a stink out of it they are mercilessly mocked by both the talents and the fanbase. That said things are slowly changing with the JP branch, with more and more collabs happening everyday as hardcore idol culture is beginning to be looked down on as toxic, not to mention Stars themselves growing more and more popular.

*** Building more on the JP Idol culture's reaction to male/female interactions we can see this pretty heavily in the way the JP fans and talents treat Holostars compared to EN and ID. While Cover Corp has no restriction on male/female interaction, there is virtually no interaction between Hololive JP and Holostars outside of special events and when asked it's a nigh-universal hard "'''NO'''" on collabs, and the exceptions amongst the Hololive JP talents being the minority[[labelnote:The talents in question]]Sora, Fubuki, Matsuri, Roboco, Subaru, Suisei, Choco, Towa, Polka, Mel, La+, Akirose, and the [=ReGLOSS=] members[[/labelnote]]. EN fares better, with most talents interacting with the stars, but there are still some that won't so much acknowledge them and there's occasional pushback from particularly rabid fans. The ID girls, by complete contrast with both, have all been frequently collaborating with the boys since the beginning of the branch with almost zero complaints. The very few times someone tries to make a stink out of it they are mercilessly mocked by both the talents and the fanbase. That said things are slowly changing with the JP branch, with more and more collabs happening everyday as hardcore idol culture is beginning to be looked down on as toxic, not to mention Stars themselves growing more and more popular.

** Due to his cute appearance and ability to put on a female voice, there have been instances of viewers mistaking Miyabi for a girl in his own chat, much to his amusement.

** Due to his cute appearance, there have been instances of viewers mistaking Miyabi for a girl in his own chat, much to his amusement.

*** Building more on the JP Idol culture's reaction to male/female interactions we can see this pretty heavily in the way the JP fans and talents treat Holostars compared to EN and ID. While Cover Corp has no restriction on male/female interaction, there is virtually no interaction between Hololive JP and Holostars outside of special events and when asked it's a nigh-universal hard "'''NO'''" on collabs, and the exceptions amongst the Hololive JP talents being the minority[[labelnote:The talents in question]]Sora, Fubuki, Matsuri, Roboco, Subaru, Suisei, Choco, Towa, Polka, Mel, La+, Akirose, and the [=ReGLOSS=] members[[/labelnote]]. In contrast, especially after the debuts of Tempus, EN and especially ID are much more open to collabing and interacting with the Holostars. That said things are slowly changing with more and more collabs happening everyday as hardcore idol culture is beginning to be looked down on as toxic, not to mention Stars themselves growing more and more popular.

** Yozora Mel's "banpire" nickname suddenly takes on a much darker tone in light of her termination from the company in January 2024.

** Yozora Mel's "banpire" nickname suddenly takes on a much darker tone in light of her termination from the company in January 2016.

** The RunningGag of Mel getting banned from [=YouTube=] over and over again quickly became this when she was [[https://cover-corp.com/en/news/detail/20240116 terminated for a breach of contract]] in January 2024.

YMMV for WebAnimation/HololiveError, go [[YMMV/HololiveERROR here]]. For ''Holo no Graffiti'', [[YMMV/HololiveHoloNoGraffiti go here]]

** For similar reasons to Towa, [[WeHardlyKnewYe Mano Aloe]] of Fifth Generation quickly gained massive support from Western fans after news spread of the self-doxing incident and subsequent harassment from antis that forced her into a two week hiatus -- and later, unbeknownst to anyone at the time, retirement from ''hololive'' right before her scheduled return. It got to the point where [[https://manoaloe.manotomo.com/home an entire website]] dedicated to her was created to host supportive messages, fan-art and even a welcome back video.[[note]]The site was later repurposed to host proper goodbye messages to Aloe after news of her graduation broke, even including fan-games. The website linked is actually another one created to preserve the older site's content after it went defunct.[[/note]] Even long after Aloe's retirement, fan support still persists: from fan-art, yearly birthday celebrations, to the creation of [[VideoGame/HoloFunk a certain significant mod]] for ''VideoGame/FridayNightFunkin'' which prominently features her.

*** Talking about a talent's past streamer personas and/or the voice actors is guaranteed to spark a debate wherever it happens, even for people who otherwise have no ill intent. This largely stems from streaming culture in Japan (particularly on Website/NicoNicoDouga), where privacy is valued more by their streamers compared to Western ones, to the point where full face masks are a common sight even with streamers who regularly appear on camera. The difference is more obvious with the English branch, who are pretty nonchalant about their past personas off-stream, with some of them even still following their old accounts on Twitter. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHOyVjcUfRM Calli in particular]] finds "you're about to accidentally dox yourself" chat comments well-intentioned, but needlessly distressing, and she flat out states "most of you already know what I look like in real life anyway". The amount of backlash in associating who used to be who [[https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/ivbxpz/its_public_info_its_not_a_valid_excuse_to_share/ largely depends on who's the topic of discussion]], with opinions running the gamut between "It's basically doxing, respect their privacy" to "it's public information, so it should be shared around". One thing's for certain on all sides of the debate, though -- bringing any of this up in the middle of a talent's stream is considered very rude.

*** Building more on the JP Idol culture's reaction to male/female interactions we can see this pretty heavily in the way the JP fans and talents treat Holostars compared to EN and ID. While Cover Corp has no restriction on male/female interaction, there is virtually no interaction between Hololive JP and Holostars outside of special events and when asked it's a nigh-universal hard "'''NO'''" on collabs, and the exceptions amongst the Hololive JP talents being the minority[[labelnote:The talents in question]]Sora, Fubuki, Matsuri, Roboco, Subaru, Suisei, Choco, Towa, Polka, Mel, La+, and the [=ReGLOSS=] members[[/labelnote]]. In contrast, especially after the debuts of Tempus, EN and especially ID are much more open to collabing and interacting with the Holostars. That said things are slowly changing with more and more collabs happening everyday as hardcore idol culture is beginning to be looked down on as toxic, not to mention Stars themselves growing more and more popular.

* FandomEnragingMisconception:
** For a while, there was a popular gossip going around the vtuber community that Hololive talents were not allowed to collab with the men of Holostars - despite the fact that there had been several Hololive[=/=]Holostars collabs. Ultimately the choice to collab with members of the opposite gender is purely the talent's choice, and quite a few members on both sides have gone on record to say that their alleged "refusal" to collab has far more to do with [[CannotTalkToWomen personal]] [[SociallyAwkwardHero shyness]] than anything handed down by management. The Holostars fandom in particular outright ''despises'' this rumor, and only since the cross-gen collab ban being lifted from Tempus and them starting to do collabs with Hololive has it finally started to die down.

*** Building more on the JP Idol culture's reaction to male/female interactions we can see this pretty heavily in the way the JP fans and talents treat Holostars compared to EN and ID. While Cover Corp has no restriction on male/female interaction, there is virtually no interaction between Hololive JP and Holostars outside of special events and when asked it's a nigh-universal hard "'''NO'''" on collabs, and the exceptions amongst the Hololive JP talents being the minority[[labelnote:The talents in question]]Sora, Fubuki, Matsuri, Roboco, Subaru, Suisei, Choco, Towa, Polka, Mel, and La+[[/labelnote]]. In contrast, especially after the debuts of Tempus, EN and especially ID are much more open to collabing and interacting with the Holostars. That said things are slowly changing with more and more collabs happening everyday as hardcore idol culture is beginning to be looked down on as toxic, not to mention Stars themselves growing more and more popular.

* HeartwarmingInHindsight: The Hologra episode "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB-41BrvMfI Let's Form a Band]]" has Matsuri suggesting making a band. This actually happens in Suisei's 4th Live concert where she forms a band with Towa, Aki, Matsuri, and Polka (unofficially called STAMP by fans), making this dream come true.

** There is a "Mating Press" meme surrounding Bae that arose from 4chan with an unclear basis. Bae does her best to not acknowledge it, and most of the audience gives the meme a frosty reception, if not outright backlash.