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* ToughActToFollow: Compare the high praise, reliability, and the reputation ''Film/BoyzNTheHood'' or even ''Film/PoeticJustice'' has to this film and it's stark. Compared to how both predecessors also handled the messages [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped much more subtly]] compared to ''Higher Learning'' basically [[{{Anvilicious}} being more face on about it's messages]] (especially with [[spoiler: the ending ''literally'' spelling out "UNLEARN"]]), it's hard to see why some remember the former two than ''High Learning''.
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* ToughActToFollow: Compare the high praise, reliability, relatability, and the reputation ''Film/BoyzNTheHood'' or even ''Film/PoeticJustice'' has to this film and it's stark. Compared to It's especially apparent with how both predecessors also handled the messages [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped much more subtly]] compared to ''Higher Learning'' basically [[{{Anvilicious}} being more face on about it's messages]] (especially with [[spoiler: the ending ''literally'' spelling out "UNLEARN"]]), it's hard to see why some remember the former two than ''High ''Higher Learning''.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: It's obvious that Singleton wants us to see the Nazi characters as evil and cruel, even to the point of [[Anvilicious having ominous music play whenever they appear]]. But he did a little ''too'' good a job of demonization, making every skinhead character [[BeingEvilSucks so stupid, delusional, cowardly, or pathetic]] that many viewers wound up [[UnintentionallySympathetic sympathizing with them anyway]]. This reached EpicFail dimensions when Michael Rapaport reported hearing ''black'' moviegoers saying they identified with his character!
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Creator/JohnSingleton wants us to see Remy's behavior later on in the film as irrational and merely acting out. But when you take into consideration how Fudge's gang, including Malik, treat him, is there any wonder he [[FaceHeelTurn went nuts]]?
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Creator/JohnSingleton wants us to see Remy's behavior later on in the film as irrational and merely acting out. But when you take into consideration how Fudge's gang, including Malik, treat him, is there any wonder he [[FaceHeelTurn went nuts]]?
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* RootingForTheEmpire: It's obvious that Singleton wants us to see the Nazi characters as evil and cruel, even to the point of [[Anvilicious [[{{Anvilicious}} having ominous music play whenever they appear]]. But he did a little ''too'' good a job of demonization, making every skinhead character [[BeingEvilSucks so stupid, delusional, cowardly, or pathetic]] that many viewers wound up [[UnintentionallySympathetic sympathizing with them anyway]]. This reached EpicFail dimensions when Michael Rapaport reported hearing ''black'' moviegoers saying they identified with his character!
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** Creator/JohnSingleton wants us to see Remy's behavior later on in the film as irrational and merely acting out. But when you take into consideration how Fudge's gang, including Malik, treat him, is there any wonder he [[FaceHeelTurn went nuts]]?
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* {{Anvilicious}}: During the "Take Back the Night" rally, a woman in the crowd holds a sign that reads [[CaptainObvious "Rape is A Crime"]].
** Racism is bad!
** [[{{Eagleland}} America is racist!]]
** ''Can't we all just get along?''
** Racism is bad!
** [[{{Eagleland}} America is racist!]]
** ''Can't we all just get along?''
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** Some white viewers tentatively identify with [[spoiler: Remy]], arguing that [[spoiler: his homicidal rampage in the climax]] was only [[PayEvilUntoEvil an accounting for what had been done to him]]. They forget that 1) Fudge and his goons, for all their negative traits, are ''not'' bloodthirsty zealots; and 2) [[spoiler: the two people actually shot to death by Remy are [[KickTheWrongDog innocents who never tormented him]] him and barely even knew him]].
* RootingForTheEmpire: It's obvious that Singleton wants us to see the Nazi characters as evil and cruel, even to the point of [[Anvilicious having ominous music play whenever they appear]]. But he did a little ''too'' good a job of demonization, making every skinhead character [[BeingEvilSucks so stupid, delusional, cowardly, or pathetic]] that many viewers wound up [[UnintentionallySympathetic sympathizing with them anyway]]. This reached EpicFail dimensions when Michael Rapaport reported hearing ''black'' moviegoers saying they identified with his character!
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* [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Truffaut Was Right]]: It's obvious that Singleton wants us to see the Nazi characters as evil and cruel, even to the point of [[AndThatsTerrible having ominous music play whenever they appear]]. But he did a little ''too'' good a job of demonization, making every skinhead character [[BeingEvilSucks so stupid, delusional, cowardly, or pathetic]] that many viewers wound up [[UnintentionallySympathetic sympathizing with them anyway]]. This reached EpicFail dimensions when Michael Rapaport reported hearing ''black'' moviegoers saying they identified with his character!
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: When the going gets tough, what do you do? [[spoiler: Run away and drop out of college like Malik does at the end of the film]].
** Though it's justified, because if you've suffered through constant racial oppression, had your girlfriend shot and witness the perpetrator kill himself, then you'd probably want to drop out too.
** Though it's justified, because if you've suffered through constant racial oppression, had your girlfriend shot and witness the perpetrator kill himself, then you'd probably want to drop out too.
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* [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Truffaut Was Right]]: It's obvious that Singleton wants us to see the Nazi characters as evil and cruel, even to the point of [[AndThatsTerrible having ominous music play whenever they appear]]. But he did a little ''too'' good a job of demonization, making every skinhead character [[BeingEvilSucks so stupid, delusional, cowardly, or pathetic]] that many viewers wound up [[UnintentionallySympathetic sympathizing with them anyway]]. This reached EpicFail dimensions when the actor who played [[spoiler: Remy]] reported hearing ''black'' moviegoers saying they identified with his character!
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* [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Truffaut Was Right]]: It's obvious that Singleton wants us to see the Nazi characters as evil and cruel, even to the point of [[AndThatsTerrible having ominous music play whenever they appear]]. But he did a little ''too'' good a job of demonization, making every skinhead character [[BeingEvilSucks so stupid, delusional, cowardly, or pathetic]] that many viewers wound up [[UnintentionallySympathetic sympathizing with them anyway]]. This reached EpicFail dimensions when the actor who played [[spoiler: Remy]] Michael Rapaport reported hearing ''black'' moviegoers saying they identified with his character!
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** Though it's justified, because if you've suffered through constant racial oppression, had your girlfriend shot and witness the perpetrator kill himself, then you'd probably want to drop out too.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: John Singleton wants us to see Remy's behavior later on in the film as irrational and merely acting out. But when you take into consideration how Fudge's gang, including Malik, treat him, is there any wonder he [[FaceHeelTurn went nuts]]?
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: John Singleton Creator/JohnSingleton wants us to see Remy's behavior later on in the film as irrational and merely acting out. But when you take into consideration how Fudge's gang, including Malik, treat him, is there any wonder he [[FaceHeelTurn went nuts]]?
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* ToughActToFollow: Compare the high praise, reliability, and the reputation ''Film/BoyzNTheHood'' or even ''Film/PoeticJustice'' has to this film and it's stark. Compared to how both predecessors also handled the messages [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped much more subtly]] compared to ''Higher Learning'' basically [[{{Anvilicious}} being more face on about it's messages]] (especially with [[spoiler: the ending ''literally'' spelling out "UNLEARN"]]), it's hard to see why some remember the former two than ''High Learning''.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The one character that isn't a jackass fed up with everything bad going on or looking for solutions in the absolute worst places [[spoiler:is the WideEyedIdealist girl that gets shot by Remy at the climax. And Malik, TheHero, runs away and drops out of college]]. So, yeah.
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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: About the only two scenes that people tend to remember about this movie (assuming they remember ''anything'' about it) are [[spoiler: Kristen]] and [[spoiler: Taryn]] kissing on top of [[spoiler: Taryn's]] bed and [[spoiler: Remy]] crouched on the roof of a campus building clutching a sniper rifle (because [[WeirdAlEffect the scene was parodied]] in ''Film/DontBeAMenaceToSouthCentralWhileDrinkingYourJuiceInTheHood'').
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* MisaimedFandom: Some white viewers tentatively identify with [[spoiler: Remy]], arguing that [[spoiler: his homicidal rampage in the climax]] was only [[PayEvilUntoEvil an accounting for what had been done to him]]. They forget that 1) Fudge and his goons, for all their negative traits, are ''not'' bloodthirsty zealots; and 2) [[spoiler: the two people actually shot to death by Remy are [[KickTheWrongDog innocents who never tormented him]] and barely even knew him]].
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* MisaimedFandom: MisaimedFandom:
** Some white viewers tentatively identify with [[spoiler: Remy]], arguing that [[spoiler: his homicidal rampage in the climax]] was only [[PayEvilUntoEvil an accounting for what had been done to him]]. They forget that 1) Fudge and his goons, for all their negative traits, are ''not'' bloodthirsty zealots; and 2) [[spoiler: the two people actually shot to death by Remy are [[KickTheWrongDog innocents who never tormented him]] and barely even knewhim]].him]].
** In an even more bizarre case, the actor who played the character has had to deal with ''black'' viewers telling him how much they identify and sympathize with the character.
** Some white viewers tentatively identify with [[spoiler: Remy]], arguing that [[spoiler: his homicidal rampage in the climax]] was only [[PayEvilUntoEvil an accounting for what had been done to him]]. They forget that 1) Fudge and his goons, for all their negative traits, are ''not'' bloodthirsty zealots; and 2) [[spoiler: the two people actually shot to death by Remy are [[KickTheWrongDog innocents who never tormented him]] and barely even knew
** In an even more bizarre case, the actor who played the character has had to deal with ''black'' viewers telling him how much they identify and sympathize with the character.
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** Kristen's rape. Despite not being particularly violent or graphic, it's so realistic and identical to what has played out in countless college dormitories that probably triggered some horrible memories for a lot of people.
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* TheDanza: Swanson's real first name is, in fact, "Kristen."
* DawsonCasting: Almost all of the actors were in their early to mid twenties playing college students. Michael Rapaport, Kristy Swanson, Ice Cube, Adam Goldberg, Regina King and Jennifer Connelly were all twenty-five and Creator/TyraBanks and Omar Epps were both twenty-two.
** It is explicitly stated that Fudge has been in school for six years, so Ice Cube isn't actually that far off.
* DawsonCasting: Almost all of the actors were in their early to mid twenties playing college students. Michael Rapaport, Kristy Swanson, Ice Cube, Adam Goldberg, Regina King and Jennifer Connelly were all twenty-five and Creator/TyraBanks and Omar Epps were both twenty-two.
** It is explicitly stated that Fudge has been in school for six years, so Ice Cube isn't actually that far off.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Laurence Fishburne's first line is "[[Film/TheMatrix Welcome to the real world.]]"
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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: Remy's rampage can remind modern audiences of the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} shootings.]]
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** "Unlearn." (The movie [[LiteralMetaphor literally spells this out]] [[ViewersAreMorons for the audience]].)
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* {{Anvilicious}}: During the "Take Back the Night" rally, a woman in the crowd holds a sign that reads [[CaptainObvious "Rape is A Crime"]]. That said it's more nuanced than most films of its day when it comes to addressing racism and sexism.
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** Racism is bad!
** [[{{Eagleland}} America is racist!]]
** ''Can't we all just get along?''
** "Unlearn." (The movie [[LiteralMetaphor literally spells this out]] [[ViewersAreMorons for the audience]].)
** Racism is bad!
** [[{{Eagleland}} America is racist!]]
** ''Can't we all just get along?''
** "Unlearn." (The movie [[LiteralMetaphor literally spells this out]] [[ViewersAreMorons for the audience]].)
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-->''"What is '''''high'''''? What is '''''high-er'''''? What is '''''learn'''''? What is '''''learn-ing'''''? What is '''''[[TitleDrop higher learning]]'''''?"''
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** When Scott, Remy's nazi friend urges him to stay in school. He does it for the wrong reasons, but still there's no denying the value of education.
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* [[DoNotDoThisCoolThing Truffaut Was Right]]: It's obvious that Singleton wants us to see the Nazi characters as evil and cruel, even to the point of [[AndThatsTerrible having ominous music play whenever they appear]]. But he did a little ''too'' good a job of demonization, making every skinhead character [[BeingEvilSucks so stupid, delusional, cowardly, or pathetic]] that many viewers wound up [[UnintentionallySympathetic sympathizing with them anyway]]. This reached EpicFail dimensions when the actor who played [[spoiler: Remy]] reported hearing ''black'' moviegoers saying they identified with his character!
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* {{Anvilicious}}: During the "Take Back the Night" rally, a woman in the crowd holds a sign that reads [[CaptainObvious "Rape is A Crime"]]. That said it's more nuanced than most films of its day when it comes to addressing racism and sexism.
* CryForTheDevil: "I wanted to build things! I wanted to be an engineer!"
* TheDanza: Swanson's real first name is, in fact, "Kristen."
* DawsonCasting: Almost all of the actors were in their early to mid twenties playing college students. Michael Rapaport, Kristy Swanson, Ice Cube, Adam Goldberg, Regina King and Jennifer Connelly were all twenty-five and Creator/TyraBanks and Omar Epps were both twenty-two.
* CryForTheDevil: "I wanted to build things! I wanted to be an engineer!"
* TheDanza: Swanson's real first name is, in fact, "Kristen."
* DawsonCasting: Almost all of the actors were in their early to mid twenties playing college students. Michael Rapaport, Kristy Swanson, Ice Cube, Adam Goldberg, Regina King and Jennifer Connelly were all twenty-five and Creator/TyraBanks and Omar Epps were both twenty-two.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: When the going gets tough, what do you do? [[spoiler: Run away and drop out of college like Malik does at the end of the film]].
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* StrawmanHasaPoint: John Singleton wants us to see Remy's behavior later on in the film as irrational and merely acting out. But when you take into consideration how Fudge's gang, including Malik, treat him, is there any wonder he [[FaceHeelTurn went nuts]]?
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* StrawmanHasaPoint: StrawmanHasAPoint: John Singleton wants us to see Remy's behavior later on in the film as irrational and merely acting out. But when you take into consideration how Fudge's gang, including Malik, treat him, is there any wonder he [[FaceHeelTurn went nuts]]?
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* StrawmanHasaPoint: John Singleton wants us to see Remy's behavior later on in the film as irrational and merely acting out. But when you take into consideration how Fudge's gang, including Malik, treat him, is there any wonder he [[FaceHeelTurn went nuts]]?
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* FetishFuel: Deja in her track suit.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Laurence Fishburne's first line is "[[TheMatrix Welcome to the real world.]]"
* MisaimedFandom: Some white viewers tentatively identify with [[spoiler: Remy]], arguing that [[spoiler: his homicidal rampage in the climax]] was only [[PayEvilUntoEvil an accounting for what had been done to him]]. They forget that 1) Fudge and his goons, for all their negative traits, are ''not'' bloodthirsty zealots; and 2) [[spoiler: the two people actually shot to death by Remy are [[KickTheWrongDog innocents who never tormented him]] and barely even knew him]].
* MisaimedFandom: Some white viewers tentatively identify with [[spoiler: Remy]], arguing that [[spoiler: his homicidal rampage in the climax]] was only [[PayEvilUntoEvil an accounting for what had been done to him]]. They forget that 1) Fudge and his goons, for all their negative traits, are ''not'' bloodthirsty zealots; and 2) [[spoiler: the two people actually shot to death by Remy are [[KickTheWrongDog innocents who never tormented him]] and barely even knew him]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: Laurence Fishburne's first line is "[[TheMatrix "[[Film/TheMatrix Welcome to the real world.]]"
* MisaimedFandom: Some white viewers tentatively identify with [[spoiler: Remy]], arguing that [[spoiler: his homicidal rampage in the climax]] was only [[PayEvilUntoEvil an accounting for what had been done to him]]. They forget that 1) Fudge and his goons, for all their negative traits, are ''not'' bloodthirsty zealots; and 2) [[spoiler: the two people actually shot to death by Remy are [[KickTheWrongDog innocents who never tormented him]] and barely even knew him]].
* MisaimedFandom: Some white viewers tentatively identify with [[spoiler: Remy]], arguing that [[spoiler: his homicidal rampage in the climax]] was only [[PayEvilUntoEvil an accounting for what had been done to him]]. They forget that 1) Fudge and his goons, for all their negative traits, are ''not'' bloodthirsty zealots; and 2) [[spoiler: the two people actually shot to death by Remy are [[KickTheWrongDog innocents who never tormented him]] and barely even knew him]].
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* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Deja is shot in the stomach by Remy and suffers an agonizing death, [[BloodFromTheMouth vomiting up blood]].]]
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** That bizarre, [[FakeBrit pseudo-British accent]] the leader of the neo-Nazis uses.
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