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* SecondSeasonDownfall: People have said the band should have went out with [[Music/AppetiteForDestruction a bang]] instead of dragging it's obviously decayed corpse for so long with the follow up albums.
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* MisattributedSong: They have never recorded "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" (Music/{{Poison}}) or "Cats in the Cradle" (Music/UglyKidJoe).
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* MisattributedSong: They have never recorded "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" (Music/{{Poison}}) or "Cats "Cat's in the Cradle" (Music/UglyKidJoe).[[note]]The original version of "Cat's in the Cradle" was by Music/HarryChapin. But that version would be less likely to be confused with GNR.[[/note]]
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* FandomRivalry: Some with Music/{{Nirvana}}, but even more with Music/StoneTemplePilots, best known as the band of the ex-vocalist of Music/VelvetRevolver. Funnily enough, Axl was a fan of Music/{{Nirvana}} and tried to get them to open for them on a tour, but Music/KurtCobain refused because he felt their public image was ridiculous and outdated.
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* FandomRivalry: Some with Music/{{Nirvana}}, but even more with Music/StoneTemplePilots, best known as the band of the ex-vocalist of Music/VelvetRevolver. Funnily enough, Axl was a fan of Music/{{Nirvana}} and tried to get them to open for them on a tour, but Music/KurtCobain refused because he felt their public image was ridiculous and outdated. And regarding the latter, Axl himself brought in the Velvet Revolver song "Slither" to the setlist once Slash and Duff returned.
** "Used to Love Her" might be fun to [[CatharsisFactor sing after breakups]], as after all it's clearly meant as a joke. But at least [[https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/11/10/man-convicted-of-murdering-girlfriend-after-singing-i-used-to-love-her-but-i-had-to-kill-her/ two]] [[https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/man-convicted-of-murdering-girlfriend-after-singing-i-used-to-love-her-but-i-had-to-kill-her/ murderers]] had listened to the song prior to killing their girlfriends.
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* TakeThat: Slash’s habit of playing The Godfather theme between sets started out at this directed at Axl on his behalf from the rest of the band. During their heyday, Axl Rose would often be so late to concerts that the band had time to (and would) watch The Godfather before he arrived. The Godfather’s runtime? Two hours and fifty five minutes.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "My World" coming in at the end of ''Music/UseYourIllusion II''. Axl wrote that song all by himself while nurturing a love of Music/NineInchNails, and put it on without informing the other band members. Slash only found out about the song after buying a copy.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "My World" coming in at the end of ''Music/UseYourIllusion II''.II'' - in contrast with the rest of the album's mix of hard rock and power ballads, it's a minute and a half of Axl Rose talk/rapping over industrial-style drum machines, synthesizers and sound effects. Axl wrote that song all by himself while nurturing a love of Music/NineInchNails, and put it on without informing the other band members. Slash only found out about the song after buying a copy.
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--> ''"He's in my ass, that's where Music/{{Slash}} is! Fuckhead! Go home."''
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* OneSceneWonder: Often {{invoked|Trope}}. Music/{{Slash}}'s session work, even with some...[[WTHCastingAgency unusual collaborators]]...remains popular and in some cases outshines the main artist.
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* OneSceneWonder: Often {{invoked|Trope}}. Music/{{Slash}}'s Music/{{Slash|Musician}}'s session work, even with some...[[WTHCastingAgency unusual collaborators]]...remains popular and in some cases outshines the main artist.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arguably drummer Matt Sorum despite him being an accomplished drummer and generally well-liked among fans. Steven Adler though, was even more liked and many felt his swing style drumming fit the band's sound better than Sorum's more technical and polished drumming. Axl certainly seems to feel this way about Sorum; while he has described Music/{{Slash}}, Izzy and Duff as ''"former members,"'' he usually refers to Sorum as a ''"former employee."'' Ouch.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arguably drummer Matt Sorum despite him being an accomplished drummer and generally well-liked among fans. Steven Adler though, was even more liked and many felt his swing style drumming fit the band's sound better than Sorum's more technical and polished drumming. Axl certainly seems to feel this way about Sorum; while he has described Music/{{Slash}}, Music/{{Slash|Musician}}, Izzy and Duff as ''"former members,"'' he usually refers to Sorum as a ''"former employee."'' Ouch.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xXRoEAvVro GIVE 'EM SOME REGGAE!!!]]
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xXRoEAvVro com/watch?v=u2mzMlHmxYo&t=10s GIVE 'EM SOME REGGAE!!!]]
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** [[https://youtu.be/rcjobO7X61I?t=118 WELL, THANKS TO THE LAME ASS SECURITY, I'M GOING HOME!]]
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** [[https://youtu.be/rcjobO7X61I?t=118 [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gtQNXdbtRI WELL, THANKS TO THE LAME ASS SECURITY, I'M GOING HOME!]]
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** Melissa Reese seems to be this. Some people think she's a refreshing addition to the band and one of the most talented members so far, but others think that her keyboard playing adds nothing to the music, that her look and aesthetic don't match well with the band, and that she was only hired in an attempt to appeal to a more modern audience.
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* TakeThat!: Slash’s habit of playing The Godfather theme between sets started out at this directed at Axl on his behalf from the rest of the band. During their heyday, Axl Rose would often be so late to concerts that the band had time to (and would) watch The Godfather before he arrived. The Godfather’s runtime? Two hours and fifty five minutes.
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* TakeThat!: TakeThat: Slash’s habit of playing The Godfather theme between sets started out at this directed at Axl on his behalf from the rest of the band. During their heyday, Axl Rose would often be so late to concerts that the band had time to (and would) watch The Godfather before he arrived. The Godfather’s runtime? Two hours and fifty five minutes.
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* TakeThat!: Slash’s habit of playing The Godfather theme between sets started out at this directed at Axl on his behalf from the rest of the band. During their heyday, Axl Rose would often be so late to concerts that the band had time to (and would) watch The Godfather before he arrived. The Godfather’s runtime? Two hours and fifty five minutes.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Axl's divorce from the woman who inspired "Sweet Child o' Mine" which stemmed from him beating her.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight: Axl's divorce from the woman who inspired "Sweet Child o' Mine" which stemmed from him beating her.
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* BrokenAesop: Axl wanted to force America to confront issues regarding minority relations head-on and expose how bad they were at the time. Apparently, he thought the best way to do it would be to put himself in a bigot's shoes and channel his own negative experiences with said minorities into his writing. This would backfire on Axl and get him labeled a racist and homophobe, labels which he has never quite been able to overcome to this day.
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** ''Appetite for Destruction'' is to this day regarded as the best work the band has made.
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** ''Appetite for Destruction'' ''Music/AppetiteForDestruction'' is to this day regarded as the best work the band has made.
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* OneSceneWonder: Often {{invoked|Trope}}. Music/Slash's session work, even with some...[[WTHCastingAgency unusual collaborators]]...remains popular and in some cases outshines the main artist.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arguably drummer Matt Sorum despite him being an accomplished drummer and generally well-liked among fans. Steven Adler though, was even more liked and many felt his swing style drumming fit the band's sound better than Sorum's more technical and polished drumming. Axl certainly seems to feel this way about Sorum; while he has described Slash, Izzy and Duff as ''"former members,"'' he usually refers to Sorum as a ''"former employee."'' Ouch.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arguably drummer Matt Sorum despite him being an accomplished drummer and generally well-liked among fans. Steven Adler though, was even more liked and many felt his swing style drumming fit the band's sound better than Sorum's more technical and polished drumming. Axl certainly seems to feel this way about Sorum; while he has described Slash, Music/{{Slash}}, Izzy and Duff as ''"former members,"'' he usually refers to Sorum as a ''"former employee."'' Ouch.
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* EndingFatigue: "Paradise City" can be tiring sometimes. It looks like it's going to end on the double chorus, until Axl starts putting in some screaming and the song changes gear into a faster second act that lasts half as long as the main song, complete with a bit more lyrics, Slash's solo and a rather long outro.
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* BrokenAesop: Axl wanted to force America to confront issues regarding minority relations head-on and expose how bad they were at the time. Apparently, he thought the best way to do it would be to put himself in a bigot's shoes and channel his own negative experiences with said minorities into his writing. This would backfire on Axl and get him labeled a racist and homophobe, labels which he has never quite been able to overcome to this day.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Axl clearly had this in mind when composing "One in a Million", according to some reevaluations thereof. He wanted to force America to confront issues regarding minority relations head-on and expose how bad they were at the time. Apparently, he thought the best way to do it would be to put himself in a bigot's shoes and channel his own negative experiences with said minorities into his writing. This would backfire on Axl and get him labeled a racist and homophobe, labels which he has never quite been able to overcome to this day.
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* MisattributedSong: They have never recorded "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" (Music/{{Poison}}) or "Cats in the Cradle" (Music/UglyKidJoe).
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* MisaimedFandom: "Paradise City" is not a happy song.
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** "Paradise City" isnot ''not'' a happy song.song, being about feeling disillusioned with life in the city and wanting to go back to the small town you came from.
** "Paradise City" is
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* EndingFatigue: "Paradise City".
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* EndingFatigue: "Paradise City".City" can be tiring sometimes. It looks like it's going to end on the double chorus, until Axl starts putting in some screaming and the song changes gear into a faster second act that lasts half as long as the main song, complete with a bit more lyrics, Slash's solo and a rather long outro.
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** ''Appetite forDestruction''.Destruction'' is to this day regarded as the best work the band has made.
** ''Appetite for
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*** Guitarist Richard Fortus has also garnered some appreciation, at least from the guitarist community, for his accessible and down to earth attitude, especially during the 2016 tour.
*** Guitarist Richard Fortus has also garnered some appreciation, at least from the guitarist community, for his accessible and down to earth attitude, especially during the 2016 tour.
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* EarWorm: Many songs, particularly those in the first album.
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** "One in a Million" was Axl's attempt to write about race and sexuality from his perspective as a small town naive white boy from Indiana arriving in Los Angeles for the first time. The song though would become popular with many in the White Nationalist movement and also many who felt Axl was speaking the truth to them and identify with the song's racist, homophobic, and nativist lines. The neo-Nazi group Skrewdriver later covering the song only added to this association. There is a reason the band has only played the song a few times and none within the last 30 years.
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** "One in a Million" was Axl's attempt to write about race and sexuality a changing America from his perspective as a small town naive white boy from Indiana arriving in Los Angeles for the first time. The song though would become popular with many in the White Nationalist movement and also many who felt Axl was speaking the truth to them and identify with the song's racist, homophobic, and nativist lines. The neo-Nazi group Skrewdriver later covering the song only added to this association. There is a reason the band has only played the song a few times and none within the last 30 years.
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** "One in a Million" was Axl's attempt to write about race and sexuality from his perspective as a small town naive white boy from Indiana arriving in Los Angeles for the first time. The song though would become popular with many in the White Nationalist movement and also many who felt Axl was speaking the truth to them and identify with the song's racist, homophobic, and nativist lines. The neo-Nazi group Skrewdriver later covering the song only added to this association. There is a reason the band has only played the song a few times and none within the last 30 years.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Axl clearly had this in mind when composing "One in a Million", according to some reevaluations thereof. He wanted to force America to confront issues regarding minority relations head-on and expose how bad they were at the time. Apparently, he thought the best way to do it would be to put himself in a bigot's shoes and channel his own negative experiences with said minorities into his writing. This would backfire on Axl and get him labeled a racist and homophobe, labels which he has never quite been able to overcome.overcome to this day.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Axl clearly had this in mind when composing "One in a Million", according to some reevaluations thereof. He wanted to force America to confront issues regarding minority relations head-on and expose how bad they were at the time. Apparently, he thought the best way to do it would be to put himself in a bigot's shoes and channel his own negative experiences with said minorities into his writing.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Axl clearly had this in mind when composing "One in a Million", according to some reevaluations thereof. He wanted to force America to confront issues regarding minority relations head-on and expose how bad they were at the time. Apparently, he thought the best way to do it would be to put himself in a bigot's shoes and channel his own negative experiences with said minorities into his writing. This would backfire on Axl and get him labeled a racist and homophobe, labels which he has never quite been able to overcome.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arguably drummer Matt Sorum. Axl certainly seems to feel this way; while he has described Slash, Izzy and Duff as ''"former members,"'' he usually refers to Sorum as a ''"former employee."'' Ouch.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arguably drummer Matt Sorum. Sorum despite him being an accomplished drummer and generally well-liked among fans. Steven Adler though, was even more liked and many felt his swing style drumming fit the band's sound better than Sorum's more technical and polished drumming. Axl certainly seems to feel this way; way about Sorum; while he has described Slash, Izzy and Duff as ''"former members,"'' he usually refers to Sorum as a ''"former employee."'' Ouch.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "My World" coming in at the end of ''Use Your Illusion II''. Axl wrote that song all by himself while nurturing a love of Music/NineInchNails, and put it on without informing the other band members. Slash only found out about the song after buying a copy.
* BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and ''Chinese Democracy''. On one side you've got the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.
* BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and ''Chinese Democracy''. On one side you've got the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "My World" coming in at the end of ''Use Your Illusion ''Music/UseYourIllusion II''. Axl wrote that song all by himself while nurturing a love of Music/NineInchNails, and put it on without informing the other band members. Slash only found out about the song after buying a copy.
* BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and''Chinese Democracy''.''Music/ChineseDemocracy''. On one side you've got the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.
* BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and
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* OneSceneWonder: Often {{invoked|Trope}}. Slash's session work, even with some...[[WTHCastingAgency unusual collaborators]]...remains popular and in some cases outshines the main artist.
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** ''Chinese Democracy'' is the prime example of what happens when a egotistical tyrant is given virtually limitless time and cash to record a follow-up album.
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** ''Chinese Democracy'' is the prime example of what happens when a an egotistical tyrant is given virtually limitless time and cash to record a follow-up album.
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** EVERY SINGLE CURRENT MEMBER (sans Axl and Dizzy, as they aren't replacements, and Slash and Duff, who both returned from the "classic" lineup in 2016).
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** EVERY SINGLE CURRENT MEMBER (sans Axl and Dizzy, as they aren't replacements, and Slash and Duff, who both returned Pretty much every single member that joined during the ''Chinese Democracy'' era got this status from fans of the "classic" classic lineups, except Josh Freese and Richard Fortus. In Freese's case it likely comes from him never performing with the band in concert and his drumming only being featured on the track "Oh My God," due to his contributions being replaced on the album (his playing wouldn't be heard on anything else until early versions of several songs leaked in 2019). Richard gets a break because he replaced Paul Tobias, who was probably one of the most disliked figures of the [=NuGuns=] era by other members of the band (Slash publicly stated several times he hated him and Matt called him "the Yoko Ono of Guns N' Roses" and blamed him for its dissolution), and is seen by most as a marked improvement over him. [[ReplacementGoldfish Bearing a passing resemblance to Izzy also probably helps.]]
** Believe it or not, this even popped up among fans of the CD era. The first lineup to perform with Axl after the last show in2016).1993 consisted of Buckethead, Robin Finck and Paul Tobias on guitars, Tommy Stinson on bass, Brain on the drums, and Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman on keys and various instruments. Half of them had been replaced by the end of the tour in 2011. As stated above, Richard is the only one not slapped with scrappy status by a large portion of the fans, while Ron, DJ and Frank (who replaced Buckethead, Robin and Brain, respectively) are seen by many as being a step down from their predecessors. Ron in particular got a lot of criticism for replacing Bucket's solo on Shackler's Revenge and Brian May's on Catcher in the Rye with pieces that some said sounded like senseless noodling that didn't fit with the songs (in his defense, replacing the solos was not his decision and he played his parts without being able to access the tracks for reference whenever he needed to). DJ had a considerable amount of hate thrown his way for his Tim Burton-esque top hat (something he never wore outside of GNR, which caused many accusations of him trying to rip off Slash's signature look) and later for his blatant advertising of Monster energy drinks and his own brand. These wardrobe centered promotions earned him the nickname "DJ Swagba" among his detractors.
** Funnily enough, there seems to be a small portion of the fanbase that sees Slash, Duff and Melissa as this, preferring the CD era to have continued and potentially seen the release of the rest of the songs recorded during the album sessions, instead of the band going on what some see as a seemingly never ending nostalgia tour with no album release in sight. Not helping matters was the revelation in 2018 that the next album was being worked on for a 2016 release, but was then shelved in favor of the reunion tour.
** Bumblefoot seemed to be this within GNR itself, not necessarily out of a desire to play with Buckethead again, but because the group had gotten used to the idea of performing as a seven man lineup since it had taken two years to replace him. Thal was a last minute addition made by Axl, joining just weeks before the 06 tour began. He was not welcomed with open arms by the rest of the band. According to him, the bullying and harassment he received only stopped after he had to assert himself through unknown means. It is known that the incident earned him the nickname "Shank," [[NoodleIncident which is something he has refused to elaborate on even a decade later]].
** Believe it or not, this even popped up among fans of the CD era. The first lineup to perform with Axl after the last show in
** Funnily enough, there seems to be a small portion of the fanbase that sees Slash, Duff and Melissa as this, preferring the CD era to have continued and potentially seen the release of the rest of the songs recorded during the album sessions, instead of the band going on what some see as a seemingly never ending nostalgia tour with no album release in sight. Not helping matters was the revelation in 2018 that the next album was being worked on for a 2016 release, but was then shelved in favor of the reunion tour.
** Bumblefoot seemed to be this within GNR itself, not necessarily out of a desire to play with Buckethead again, but because the group had gotten used to the idea of performing as a seven man lineup since it had taken two years to replace him. Thal was a last minute addition made by Axl, joining just weeks before the 06 tour began. He was not welcomed with open arms by the rest of the band. According to him, the bullying and harassment he received only stopped after he had to assert himself through unknown means. It is known that the incident earned him the nickname "Shank," [[NoodleIncident which is something he has refused to elaborate on even a decade later]].
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* InternetBackdraft: And all because [[BrokenBase some people like the old GN'R better than the one which released]] ''Chinese Democracy''. It rivals the [[Music/{{Sepultura}} Max Cavalera vs. Derrick Green]] fanwar in "fandoms broken because of replacements".
** In June 2016, Axl tried to get some memes of him removed from the internet. Take a wild guess how the internet reacted.
** In June 2016, Axl tried to get some memes of him removed from the internet. Take a wild guess how the internet reacted.
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