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** "Blond Kratos" became a FanNickname for Eddie beginning in the second arc, on account of his beard and moustache resembling those of Kratos in ''VideoGame/GodOfWar4''. When Dylan Brock was introduced fanart depicting him in the role of Atreus and Eddie in the role of Kratos started popping up, [[spoiler:with the comparison becoming all the more apt with the revelation that he is indeed Eddie's son]].

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** "Blond Kratos" became a FanNickname for Eddie beginning in the second arc, on account of his beard and moustache resembling those of Kratos in ''VideoGame/GodOfWar4''.''VideoGame/GodOfWarPS4''. When Dylan Brock was introduced fanart depicting him in the role of Atreus and Eddie in the role of Kratos started popping up, [[spoiler:with the comparison becoming all the more apt with the revelation that he is indeed Eddie's son]].

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** Probably knowing that fans would miss Flash Thompson, Cates begins every arc with a character wishing that Eddie ''was'' Flash Thompson.

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** Probably knowing that fans would miss Flash Thompson, Cates begins every arc with a character wishing that Eddie ''was'' Flash Thompson.Thompson, and turns Issue #7 into something of a tribute to Agent Venom.



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 11, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler:From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of the symbiote messing with his memories, making him believe he had a sister and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 11, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler:From [[spoiler:First Eddie finds out that the symbiote going mad, is seemingly braindead, and that the symbiote was messing with his memories to them then going brain dead to make him forget traumatic events like Flash's death. In his despair, Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to starts doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, symbiote; and sets out to the reveal of try to make amends with his estranged and abusive father, who rejects him outright. Then he finds out that his cancer is making a resurgence; only to discover that the symbiote was only pretending to be braindead, he never originally had cancer, and that it had been messing with his memories, making memories all along to make him believe he had a sister and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.sister.]]



** [[spoiler:The Symbiote Rex]], for being a BadassNormal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom with thrown together equipment and [[spoiler:impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The ''Ve'Nam'' one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.

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** [[spoiler:The Symbiote Rex]], for being a BadassNormal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom with thrown together thrown-together equipment and [[spoiler:impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The ''Ve'Nam'' one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.



* MemeticMutation: "''Venom'' is better than ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''." [[labelnote:Explanation]]With the high praise the series is getting, Donny Cates began to joke about how the series is better than Creator/AlanMoore's groundbreaking graphic novel, with cited reasons including how [[Film/Venom2018 the Venom film]] got a song by Music/{{Eminem}} while ''Watchmen'' didn't. [[https://twitter.com/doncates/status/1035526870551474181?lang=en Alan Moore seems to be okay with it though]].[[/labelnote]]

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"''Venom'' is better than ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''." [[labelnote:Explanation]]With the high praise the series is getting, Donny Cates began to joke about how the series is better than Creator/AlanMoore's groundbreaking graphic novel, with cited reasons including how [[Film/Venom2018 the Venom film]] got a song by Music/{{Eminem}} while ''Watchmen'' didn't. [[https://twitter.com/doncates/status/1035526870551474181?lang=en Alan Moore seems to be okay with it though]].[[/labelnote]][[/labelnote]]
** "Blond Kratos" became a FanNickname for Eddie beginning in the second arc, on account of his beard and moustache resembling those of Kratos in ''VideoGame/GodOfWar4''. When Dylan Brock was introduced fanart depicting him in the role of Atreus and Eddie in the role of Kratos started popping up, [[spoiler:with the comparison becoming all the more apt with the revelation that he is indeed Eddie's son]].



** Knull's name is ominous and invokes the nothingness and despair that he is god of... and it's also Swedish for "fuck".

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** Knull's name is ominous and invokes the nothingness and despair that he is god of... and it's also Swedish for "fuck". His humanoid appearance was also offputting for someone meant to be a primordial god of eldritch darkness.



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom Mike Costa's run]], generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of the best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom Mike Costa's run]], which was generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, SoOkayItsAverage; and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of the best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').
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* StuffedInTheFridge: The first two women characters mentioned in the series, Scorn and Mary Brock, are both BackForTheDead.

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* StuffedInTheFridge: The first two women characters mentioned in the series, Scorn and Mary Brock, are both BackForTheDead. [[spoiler:UpToEleven with the reveal that Mary ''[[FakeMemories didn't even exist]]''.]]

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[spoiler:The Symbiote Rex]], for being a BadassNormal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom with thrown together equipment and [[spoiler:impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The ''Ve'Nam'' one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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[[spoiler:The Symbiote Rex]], for being a BadassNormal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom with thrown together equipment and [[spoiler:impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The ''Ve'Nam'' one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.past.
** Eddie's younger half-brother Dylan Brock has been embraced by the fandom for being one of the few brighter spots of the second arc.
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The reveal wasn't that Eddie's sister was dead but that she never existed.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 11, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler:From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of his sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 11, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler:From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of the symbiote messing with his memories, making him believe he had a sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]

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* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: The symbiote telling Eddie they love him. [[spoiler:Even if he cannot hear them.]]


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For starters, they're Zero Context Examples. Secondly, as it says on the Complete Monster page itself, "Please use the Complete Monster cleanup thread to propose characters before writing their entries. Complete Monster entries not approved by the thread will be deleted."


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** [[CivilizationDestroyer Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.
** Carl Brock, who is an abusive monster of a parent.
** [[spoiler: Carnage]] of course.

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CompleteMonster: [[CivilizationDestroyer Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.
** Carl Brock, who is an abusive monster of a parent.
** [[spoiler: Carnage]] of course.
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Why were these removed? Both characters definitely fit with no redeeming traits about them, even if they're not on the same cosmic scale as Knull.


* CompleteMonster: [[CivilizationDestroyer Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.

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* CompleteMonster: CompleteMonster:
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[[CivilizationDestroyer Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.Earth.
** Carl Brock, who is an abusive monster of a parent.
** [[spoiler: Carnage]] of course.



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 10, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler:From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of his sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 10, 11, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler:From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of his sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]

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* CompleteMonster:
** [[CivilizationDestroyer Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.
** Carl Brock, who is an abusive monster of a parent.
** [[spoiler: Carnage]] of course.
* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: The symbiote telling Eddie they love him. [[spoiler: Even if he cannot hear them.]]
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 10, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler: From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of his sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[spoiler: The Symbiote Rex]], for being a BadassNormal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom with thrown together equipment and [[spoiler: impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The ''Ve'Nam'' one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.

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* CompleteMonster:
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CompleteMonster: [[CivilizationDestroyer Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.
** Carl Brock, who is an abusive monster of a parent.
** [[spoiler: Carnage]] of course.
* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: The symbiote telling Eddie they love him. [[spoiler: Even [[spoiler:Even if he cannot hear them.]]
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 10, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler: From [[spoiler:From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of his sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Symbiote Rex]], for being a BadassNormal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom with thrown together equipment and [[spoiler: impersonate [[spoiler:impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The ''Ve'Nam'' one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.

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* CompleteMonster: [[CivilizationDestroyer Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.

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* CompleteMonster: [[CivilizationDestroyer CompleteMonster:
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Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.


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** [[spoiler: Carnage]] of course.
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* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: The symbiote telling Eddie they love him. [[spoiler: Even if he cannot hear it.]]

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* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: The symbiote telling Eddie they love him. [[spoiler: Even if he cannot hear it.them.]]
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The name didn’t come from that arc. Also, the reveal was that they weren’t originally like that - not on whether or not it’s true now. That wasn’t changed.


** Once Knull shows up, Cates uses him as a vehicle to undo the unpopular changes Brian Michael Bendis made to the Symbiote lore -- their original name is Symbiotes and they aren't a noble warrior race, these are both lies the Symbiotes spread to distance themselves from their past.

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** Once Knull shows up, Cates uses him as a vehicle to undo the unpopular changes Brian Michael Bendis made to the Symbiote lore -- their original name is Symbiotes and they aren't weren’t originally a noble warrior race, these are both lies as the Symbiotes Agents of the Cosmos try to be now. That they were is a lie spread by them to distance themselves from their past.



* DarkneeInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 10, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler: From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of his sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]

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* DarkneeInducedAudienceApathy: DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 10, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler: From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of his sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]

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** Carl Brock, who is an abusive monster of a parent.
* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: The symbiote telling Eddie they love him. [[spoiler: Even if he cannot hear it.]]
* DarkneeInducedAudienceApathy: Happening with some readers, as by issue 10, there’s only been an increasing barrage of darkness and despair and everything going horribly wrong. [[spoiler: From the symbiote going mad, to them then going brain dead to Eddie finding out Flash is dead, to doubting he was ever good enough for the braindead symbiote, to the reveal of his sister being dead and his cancer being back, to him being rejected again by his father and left penniless, despairing and alone thinking about how wrong everything has gone for him.]]



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom Mike Costa's run]], generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom Mike Costa's run]], generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' of the best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').
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* MemeticMutation: "''Venom'' is better than ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''." [[labelnote:Explanation]]With the high praise the series is getting, Donny Cates began to joke about how the series is better than Creator/AlanMoore's groundbreaking graphic novel, with cited reasons including how [[Film/Venom2018 the Venom film]] got a song by Music/{{Eminem}} while ''Watchmen'' didn't. [[https://twitter.com/doncates/status/1035526870551474181?lang=en Alan Moore seems to be okay with it though]].[[/labelnote]]
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* StuffedInTheFridge: The first two women characters mentioned in the series, Scorn and Mary Brock, are both BackForTheDead.
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Approved by the thread.

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* CompleteMonster: [[CivilizationDestroyer Knull]], the [[PhysicalGod God of Symbiotes]], [[AncientEvil predates almost all existence]]. Despising the light of existence, Knull warred with the gods and consumed entire worlds before [[ArchnemesisDad creating the symbiotes]] and loosing them on civilizations to devour them, killing countless billions. Eventually betrayed and sealed off by his own "children", Knull returns and attempts to torture Eddie Brock's symbiote to relieve it of any honor and nobility, intending on recovering his old power and resuming [[OmnicidalManiac his mission]] of devouring all life-starting by consuming everyone and everything on Earth.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[spoiler: The Symbiote Rex]], for being a Badass Normal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom with thrown together equipment and [[spoiler: impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The Ve'Nam one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.
* {{Narm}}: Knull's name is ominous and invokes the nothingness and despair that he is god of... and it's also Swedish for "fuck".

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[spoiler: The Symbiote Rex]], for being a Badass Normal BadassNormal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom with thrown together equipment and [[spoiler: impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The Ve'Nam ''Ve'Nam'' one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.
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Knull's name is ominous and invokes the nothingness and despair that he is god of... and it's also Swedish for "fuck"."fuck".
** The Maker revealing that the symbiote's [[http://www.4thletter.net/gavok/venom/slobber.jpg green saliva]] is actually waste product, meaning that Venom is basically shitting or pissing out his mouth. Certainly casts a new light on a few old panels, like the one from ''Lethal Protector'' where he was shown drooling all over his own face while crawling along a ceiling.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom Mike Costa's run, run]], generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage overall, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage overall, SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Symbiote Rex, for being a Badass Normal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom without thrown together equipment and [[spoiler: impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The Ve'Nam one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[spoiler: The Symbiote Rex, Rex]], for being a Badass Normal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom without with thrown together equipment and [[spoiler: impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The Ve'Nam one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.


* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, SoOkayItsAverage overall, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series. (To the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''.)

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series. (To series (to the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''.)''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'').


* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to have a SoOkayItsAverage beginning before becoming good once Eddie gets the Venom symbiote back and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series. (To the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''.)

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered to have a SoOkayItsAverage beginning before becoming good once Eddie gets the Venom symbiote back be SoOkayItsAverage, and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series. (To the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''.)
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, and uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, to have a SoOkayItsAverage beginning before becoming good once Eddie gets the Venom symbiote back and also uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series. (To the point that it was joked that this run is better than DC's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''.)
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Eddie had long hair like that in several of the 1990's comics, like The Hunger.


* WTHCostumingDepartment: A sticking point for the first arc was Eddie's hair, which was so long and un-Eddie that it made him look like Sabretooth. He eventually ''does'' get a new haircut in the second arc, however.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: A sticking point for the first arc was Eddie's hair, long hair -- evocative of his appearance in some of the 1990's comics -- which was seen by some fans as so long and un-Eddie that it made him look like Sabretooth. He eventually ''does'' get a new haircut in the second arc, however.
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* {{Narm}}: Knull's name is ominous and invokes the nothingness and despair that he is god of... and it's also Swedish for "fuck".

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Probably knowing that fans would miss Flash Thompson, Cates begins every arc with a character wishing that Eddie ''was'' Flash Thompson.

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Probably knowing that fans would miss Flash Thompson, Cates begins every arc with a character wishing that Eddie ''was'' Flash Thompson.Thompson.
** Once Knull shows up, Cates uses him as a vehicle to undo the unpopular changes Brian Michael Bendis made to the Symbiote lore -- their original name is Symbiotes and they aren't a noble warrior race, these are both lies the Symbiotes spread to distance themselves from their past.



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, and uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, and uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series.series.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: A sticking point for the first arc was Eddie's hair, which was so long and un-Eddie that it made him look like Sabretooth. He eventually ''does'' get a new haircut in the second arc, however.
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* AwesomeArt: Ryan Stegman channels the best aspects of the nineties into his already energetic style and the result is just beautiful.

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* AwesomeArt: SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Ryan Stegman channels the best aspects of the nineties into his already energetic style and the result is just beautiful.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Probably knowing that fans would miss Flash Thompson, Cates begins every arc with a character wishing that Eddie ''was'' Flash Thompson.
* AwesomeArt: Ryan Stegman channels the best aspects of the nineties into his already energetic style and the result is just beautiful.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Symbiote Rex, for being a Badass Normal symbiote with some humanity and depth, being able to contain Venom without thrown together equipment and [[spoiler: impersonate a person for years while conveying more depth than most symbiotes with only a handful of appearances]]. The Ve'Nam one-shot only helped, giving it something of a character arc and delving into its past.
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The series follows up Mike Costa's run, generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, and uses Eddie Brock rather than Flash Thompson, who had only recently died. Not only that, but it was also worried the series would be too much of a tie-in to the film. Instead, the run so far is considered one of, if not ''the'' best Venom series.

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