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** With Absolute Carnage tie ins, [[spoiler: Shriek]] can now be added to the growing list of fridged women. And at that, for the sake of Carnage’s goal in a very similar way as to how [[spoiler: Scorn was fridged]] too.

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** With Absolute Carnage tie ins, [[spoiler: Shriek]] can now potentially be added to the growing list of fridged women.women if she isn't instead now a fused enity. And at that, for the sake of Carnage’s goal in a very similar way as to how [[spoiler: Scorn was fridged]] too.


** Again with a Carnage tie-in, the run has another woman brought in with no personal character development, to just be violently killed very quickly after, this time [[spoiler: Alejandra Jones, a ghost rider]].

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** Again with a Carnage tie-in, the run has another woman brought in with no personal character development, to just be violently killed very quickly after, this time [[spoiler: Alejandra Jones, a ghost rider]]. To make matters worse, not only was she herself violently fridged [[spoiler: but the village she came to swear to defend, thanks to ongoing character development in other lines, also met such a fate.]] Meaning an achievement and culminations of her work was also nullified too.

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** Again with a Carnage tie-in, the run has another woman brought in with no personal character development, to just be violently killed very quickly after, this time [[spoiler: Alejandra Jones, a ghost rider]].

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** With Absolute Carnage tie ins, [[spoiler: Shriek]] can now be added to the growing list of fridged women. And at that, for the sake of Carnage’s goal in a very similar way as to how [[spoiler: Scorn was fridged]] too.


** There’s also those who don’t ship it romantically who ''still'' dislike the numerous retcons to the story and the recycled symbiote leaving Eddie plot. This ''especially'' goes for longer-standing fans of the franchise seeing certain materials they read being altered [[labelnote: Note]]To be specific, Eddie's sister being revealed to be the product of FakeMemories and his ''initial'' cancer diagnosis being faked by the Symbiote.[[/labelnote]], to the extent that one reviewer called it the “One More Day of Venom”. Others are fine with the retcons since it allowed for Venom: Dark Origin to be completely erased from continuity and are excited to see what Donny does with Eddie being a father, to a human child this time.
** Opinions are split on the cosmic level of the story -- and with those who like cosmic, opinions are split on how well it’s done here.

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** There’s also those who don’t ship it romantically who ''still'' dislike the numerous retcons to the story and the recycled symbiote leaving Eddie plot. This ''especially'' goes for longer-standing fans of the franchise seeing certain materials they read being altered [[labelnote: altered,[[labelnote: Note]]To be specific, Eddie's sister being revealed to be the product of FakeMemories and his ''initial'' cancer diagnosis being faked by the Symbiote.[[/labelnote]], [[/labelnote]] to the extent that one reviewer called it the “One More Day of Venom”. Others are fine with the retcons since it allowed for Venom: ''Venom: Dark Origin Origin'' to be completely erased from continuity and are excited to see what Donny does with Eddie being a father, to a human child this time.
** Opinions are split on the cosmic level of the story -- with some fans enjoying it and others insisting that Venom should only be a street-level anti-hero; and with those who like cosmic, the cosmic aspect, opinions are split on how well it’s done here.


* BrokenBase: To the extent that a VocalMinority have given the author death threats. That minority aside, disagreements include-

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* BrokenBase: To the extent that a VocalMinority have given the author death threats. That minority aside, disagreements include-include:


** There’s also those who don’t ship it romantically who ''still'' dislike the numerous retcons to the story and the recycled symbiote leaving Eddie plot. This ''especially'' goes for longer-standing fans of the franchise seeing certain materials they read being altered [[labelnote: Note]]To be specific, Eddie's sister being revealed to be the product of FakeMemories and his ''initial'' cancer diagnosis being faked by the Symbiote.[[/labelnote]], to the extent that one reviewer called it the “One More Day of Venom”. Others are fine with the retcons since it allowed for Venom: Dark Origin to be completely erased from continuity and are excited to see what Donny does with Eddie being a father.

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** There’s also those who don’t ship it romantically who ''still'' dislike the numerous retcons to the story and the recycled symbiote leaving Eddie plot. This ''especially'' goes for longer-standing fans of the franchise seeing certain materials they read being altered [[labelnote: Note]]To be specific, Eddie's sister being revealed to be the product of FakeMemories and his ''initial'' cancer diagnosis being faked by the Symbiote.[[/labelnote]], to the extent that one reviewer called it the “One More Day of Venom”. Others are fine with the retcons since it allowed for Venom: Dark Origin to be completely erased from continuity and are excited to see what Donny does with Eddie being a father.father, to a human child this time.


* ContinuityLockOut: The tendency for important continuity details and snarls to sometimes be clarified on Twitter by the author and not in comic, such as [[spoiler:on Eddie’s cancer and the Carnag Symbiote being dead]] can be seen as this. Not everyone checks Twitter and would like the clarifications to be in-comic.

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* ContinuityLockOut: The tendency for important continuity details and snarls to sometimes be clarified on Twitter by the author and not in comic, such as [[spoiler:on Eddie’s cancer and the Carnag Carnage Symbiote being dead]] can be seen as this. Not everyone checks Twitter and would like the clarifications to be in-comic.


* ContinuityLockOut: The tendency for important continuity details and snarls to sometimes be clarified on Twitter by the author and not in comic, such as [[spoiler:on Eddie’s cancer]] can be seen as this. Not everyone checks Twitter and would like the clarifications to be in-comic.

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* ContinuityLockOut: The tendency for important continuity details and snarls to sometimes be clarified on Twitter by the author and not in comic, such as [[spoiler:on Eddie’s cancer]] cancer and the Carnag Symbiote being dead]] can be seen as this. Not everyone checks Twitter and would like the clarifications to be in-comic.

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** Even the Carnage Symbiote, which sometimes goes by she/her such as in Carnage USA, [[spoiler: had been confirmed dead, with it being the Grendel Symbiote Cletus is using now]]. Something that oddly enough, [[spoiler: Cletus]] himself has not even particularly reacted to at all yet, as of #16.


* BrokenBase: To the extent that a VocalMinority have given the author death threats.

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* BrokenBase: To the extent that a VocalMinority have given the author death threats. That minority aside, disagreements include-


* BrokenBase:
** Fans that ship the Venom symbiote and Eddie have expressed distaste for Cates' run, as they see Cates going out of his way to make Brock and the symbiote's relationship out to be incredibly toxic, including using retcons to get this point across -- which is something fans object to, as after Mike Costa's run and the ''Venom'' movie, this relationship was seen as a stand-in for an LGBT pairing and for a VocalMinority it had gotten so bad that only a few days after #11 dropped Cates reported receiving death threats.. Others, however, like this depiction, as the relationship has always been some level of emotionally abusive and they enjoy Cates acknowledging this and exploring it.

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* BrokenBase:
BrokenBase: To the extent that a VocalMinority have given the author death threats.
** Fans that ship the Venom symbiote and Eddie have expressed distaste for Cates' run, as they see Cates going out of his way to make Brock and the symbiote's relationship out to be incredibly toxic, including using retcons to get this point across -- which is something fans object to, as after Mike Costa's run and the ''Venom'' movie, this relationship was seen as a stand-in for an LGBT pairing and for a VocalMinority it had gotten so bad that only a few days after #11 dropped Cates reported receiving death threats.. pairing. Others, however, like this depiction, as viewing the relationship has as having always been some level of emotionally abusive and they enjoy Cates acknowledging this and exploring it.


** Fans that ship the Venom symbiote and Eddie have expressed distaste for Cates' run, as they see Cates going out of his way to make Brock and the symbiote's relationship out to be incredibly toxic, including using retcons to get this point across -- which is something fans object to, as after Mike Costa's run and the ''Venom'' movie, this relationship was seen as a stand-in for an LGBT pairing. Others, however, like this depiction, as the relationship has always been some level of emotionally abusive and they enjoy Cates acknowledging this and exploring it.
%%** There’s also those who don’t ship it romantically who ''still'' dislike the numerous retcons to the story. This ''especially'' goes for longer-standing fans of the franchise seeing certain materials they read being altered [[labelnote: Note]]To be specific, Eddie's sister being revealed to be the product of FakeMemories and his ''initial'' cancer diagnosis being faked by the Symbiote.[[/labelnote]], to the extent that one reviewer called it the “One More Day of Venom”, and for a VocalMinority it had gotten so bad that only a few days after #11 dropped Cates reported receiving death threats.

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** Fans that ship the Venom symbiote and Eddie have expressed distaste for Cates' run, as they see Cates going out of his way to make Brock and the symbiote's relationship out to be incredibly toxic, including using retcons to get this point across -- which is something fans object to, as after Mike Costa's run and the ''Venom'' movie, this relationship was seen as a stand-in for an LGBT pairing.pairing and for a VocalMinority it had gotten so bad that only a few days after #11 dropped Cates reported receiving death threats.. Others, however, like this depiction, as the relationship has always been some level of emotionally abusive and they enjoy Cates acknowledging this and exploring it.
%%** ** There’s also those who don’t ship it romantically who ''still'' dislike the numerous retcons to the story.story and the recycled symbiote leaving Eddie plot. This ''especially'' goes for longer-standing fans of the franchise seeing certain materials they read being altered [[labelnote: Note]]To be specific, Eddie's sister being revealed to be the product of FakeMemories and his ''initial'' cancer diagnosis being faked by the Symbiote.[[/labelnote]], to the extent that one reviewer called it the “One More Day of Venom”, Venom”. Others are fine with the retcons since it allowed for Venom: Dark Origin to be completely erased from continuity and for are excited to see what Donny does with Eddie being a VocalMinority it had gotten so bad that only a few days after #11 dropped Cates reported receiving death threats.father.


** There’s also those who don’t ship it romantically who ''still'' dislike the numerous retcons to the story. This ''especially'' goes for longer-standing fans of the franchise seeing certain materials they read being altered [[labelnote: Note]]To be specific, Eddie's sister being revealed to be the product of FakeMemories and his ''initial'' cancer diagnosis being faked by the Symbiote.[[/labelnote]], to the extent that one reviewer called it the “One More Day of Venom”, and for a VocalMinority it had gotten so bad that only a few days after #11 dropped Cates reported receiving death threats.

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** %%** There’s also those who don’t ship it romantically who ''still'' dislike the numerous retcons to the story. This ''especially'' goes for longer-standing fans of the franchise seeing certain materials they read being altered [[labelnote: Note]]To be specific, Eddie's sister being revealed to be the product of FakeMemories and his ''initial'' cancer diagnosis being faked by the Symbiote.[[/labelnote]], to the extent that one reviewer called it the “One More Day of Venom”, and for a VocalMinority it had gotten so bad that only a few days after #11 dropped Cates reported receiving death threats.


* UnintentionallySympathetic: At the end of issue 6, Venom and the Rex team up to kill the Grendal symbiote, killing Rex and nearly killing both Eddie and the Venom symbiote. Before they both loses consciousness, the symbiote told Eddie that it loves him, many fans found this moment heartwarming but in an interview with Cates, it is stated it was meant to be seen as the symbiote being possessive of Eddie, causing fans to question the intentions of the Venom symbiote. The story reveals that the symbiote has been manipulating Eddie this entire time, altering his memories to think he had relatives that died of cancer and make him believe to have it to so he would be dependent on it and that supposedly it did something to Anne that is related to the existence of Dylan and what drove her crazy to the point of suicide. A lot of fans have been disgusted by this and it makes no sense for symbiote's character, in the story it is stated that it did all of this because of its nature [[labelnote:Explanation]]which is also questioned as not a single symbiote, either the parasitic symbiotes from Planets of the Symbiotes that killed their host or the Agent of the Cosmos that only partner with their hosts have ever shown being possessive or manipulative.[[/labelnote]] and fans lamented how the symbiote has been treated, from being mind-controlled by Knull or supposedly brain dead yet its still antagonized for just existing. The story does show the symbiote trying to fix its mistakes but fans still think that none of this should have happened in the first place.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: On the other side, Eddie Brock has been pointed as this, the entire story has painted him as a victim of everything and very often he ends up crying or lamenting everything, but fans found this straight up pathetic for how much of it feels like the writer is self-inserting himself on Eddie (which doesn't seem to be a secret on Cates' part) and how the narrative seems to try to lay the blame of all of his mistakes on the symbiote, instead of continueing to take responsibility for himself and learning from it. His bombastic and charming personality from before is all gone and in its place, it just a man that laments everything that happens to him but does nothing about it. He can't even fight for himself anymore, as more often he is tied up in a chair and letting other characters scream in his face.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: At the end of issue 6, Venom and the Rex team up to kill the Grendal symbiote, killing Rex and nearly killing both Eddie and the Venom symbiote. Before they both loses consciousness, the symbiote told Eddie that it loves him, many fans found this moment heartwarming but in an interview with Cates, it is stated it was meant to be seen as the symbiote being possessive of Eddie, causing fans to question the intentions of the Venom symbiote. The story reveals that the symbiote has been manipulating Eddie this entire time, altering his memories to think he had relatives that died of cancer and make him believe to have it to so he would be dependent on it and that supposedly it did something to Anne that is related to the existence of Dylan and what drove her crazy to the point of suicide. A lot of fans have been disgusted by this and it makes no sense for symbiote's character, in the story it is stated that it did all of this because of its nature [[labelnote:Explanation]]which is also questioned as not a single symbiote, either the parasitic symbiotes from Planets of the Symbiotes that killed their host or the Agent of the Cosmos that only partner with their hosts have ever shown being possessive or manipulative.[[/labelnote]] and fans lamented how the symbiote has been treated, from being mind-controlled by Knull or supposedly brain dead yet its still antagonized for just existing. The story does show the symbiote trying to fix its mistakes but fans still think that none of this should have happened in the first place.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: On the other side, Eddie Brock has been pointed as this, the entire story has painted him as a victim of everything and very often he ends up crying or lamenting everything, but fans found this straight up pathetic for how much of it feels like the writer is self-inserting himself on Eddie (which doesn't seem to be a secret on Cates' part) and how the narrative seems to try to lay the blame of all of his mistakes on the symbiote, instead of continueing continuing to take responsibility for himself and learning from it. His bombastic and charming personality from before is all gone and in its place, it just a man that laments everything that happens to him but does nothing about it. He can't even fight for himself anymore, as more often he is tied up in a chair and letting other characters scream in his face.

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