History YMMV / DissidiaFinalFantasy

** The credits. [[spoiler:HOLY SHIT IT'S CONERIA CASTLE. With exactly the same background still as the very, very first ''FinalFantasy'' credits sequence]]

** Also, DaveWittenberg voicing Kefka Palazzo, who is also a rival of Sephiroth in terms of fanbase, is especially (and hilariously) ironic when one remembers that he also voiced Yazoo, a remanent of Sephiroth, in ''FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren''.
*** Speaking of DaveWittenberg, Kefka's interactions with Terra will become especially ironic when he voices Captain Cryptic in the english version of ''FinalFantasyXIII2'', where one of his quiz questions involves a steamly love affair, with one of the answers being Terra Branford, who is an actress in that game.

* BrokenBase - Some fans were outraged at the "psycho clown" approach taken to Kefka in ''Dissidia'' (which is ironic, given the fact that one of his {{fan nickname}}s is the psycho clown), while others believe he was portrayed perfectly. Of course, opinions on how faithful Kefka's characterization is [[YourMileageMayVary dependent on how you think he was in the original game]].

** [[NightmareFuel Which interpretation]] [[RuleOfScary is scarier?]]

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel - [[http://www.majhost.com/gallery/DannyTheHedgehog/TiSC/exdeathisgonnakillya.jpg Exdeath's face.]]
** Pfft... that's ''nothing''. Also from ''Duodecim''... [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110119040927/finalfantasy/images/9/9a/DesperadoChaos.png take a look at]] [[OneWingedAngel Feral Chaos]].
*** Not to mention that in ''Duodecim'' a Feral Chaos-related scary moment comes from ''[[BewareTheNiceOnes A SIMPLE MOOGLE.]]'' To elaborate -- if you ever say you've "mastered ''Dissidia''" at the beginning of the game... [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evDUEhaTlwA well, see for yourself.]] [[GameOverMan And then Moogle mocks the hell out of you,]] à la (as even a {{YouTube}} commenter put it best) [[TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"]]. (''shudders'')
*** It is somehow even worse when you guess who that moogle actually is. [[spoiler:He is probably Cid of the Lufaine, the one who ultimately set the whole thing in motion. Is he maybe toying with you?]]
*** Just wait until you see [[spoiler: Feral Chaos']] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYdR5gHYDy8 EX Burst]]. Holy crap.
** After Kefka [[spoiler:accidentally captured Bartz instead of Zidane due to Bartz reaching the fake crystal trap first]], Kefka, when noticing that Zidane ("the monkey") is still around, says "Well, whatever... This should still be ''interesting'', at least." Right when he says this, Kefka gives off a rather creepy expression where his face has his eyes in an almost ecstatic expression and grinning.
** I see you all and raise you something in the mognet threads. In the scary story thread, you can tell the moogle he doesn't exist. If you keep pushing it, he proceeds to have an existential crisis ending the thread with:
--> "I am... only data... on a game called DDFF, kupo... these words... and even...the pain I feel are... are made by someone else, kupo... like this letter ABNORMAL DATA! MOOGLE DELETED"

* CrowningMusicOfAwesome - "Cosmos". And the Chaos Battle Theme. And "The Messenger" (from the OST). And of course, the Villain Victory Fanfare, [[DarkReprise a darker version of]] the regular Victory Fanfare.

** While Terra is a much weaker character in the 12th cycle compared to ''Dissidia'', in the 13th cycle she's far stronger, having more of a mutual compansionship with the Onion Knight instead of having to be protected by him, and toughening up her resolve sooner, resulting in a character arc with a lower starting point but a higher ending point.

** Tidus is justified, as ''Dissidia 012'' reveals he actually ''can't'' remember anything about home other than Jecht.

** Heck, the ability to use Aerith as an Assist in general. Admit it, you've gone looking for a video of Sephiroth dying to Holy, assuming you didn't try it yourself that is. Bonus points if he tries to use Hell's Gate on her and you manage to stop him somehow. And let's not get into the fact this game has all three members of the ''Final Fantasy VII'' Love Triangle [[DieForOurShip waiting to fight each other in any combination you wish]].

--> "I am... only data... on a game called DDFF, kupo... these words... and even...the pain I feel are... are made by someone else, kupo... like this letter
ABNORNAL DATA! MOOGLE DELETED"

** On the other hand, instead of hiding away while Vaan goes to fight, she fights of a horde of Manikins making their way towards Cosmos's throne to protect Vaan and his friends. The 13th cycle also reworks her dialogue to make her less of a ShrinkingViolet who needs to be protected, and more of a ReluctantWarrior who's willing and able to fight but doesn't want to if she can help it, which is closer to how she is in ''Final Fantasy VI'' after her CharacterDevelopment. She's also more focused on rescuing Onion Knight and spends a bit less time angsting. For example, in ''Dissidia'' when Onion Knight was kidnapped, she worries about continuing on alone and fighting for herself. In ''Dissidia 012'', she ponders the revelation she nearly killed him and yet he came to rescue her, and resolves to rescue him to return the favor. In hindsight, it seems that her behavior in the 12th cycle is becoming a case of NeverLiveItDown--the moment where she asks Vaan to kill her is a brief lapse of weakness, but this line was one of the few English screenshots available of Terra before the game was released, it's kinda stuck to her.
** Gameplay-wise, in ''Final Fantasy VI'' Terra was a MagicKnight with all around high stats, an excellent equipment pool including heavy armor, shields and the game's best swords, and strong natural magic. In ''Dissidia'' she's a SquishyWizard with a focus on light armor and clothing for armor with staffs, daggers and rods for weapons, and an almost entirely magical movepool, only using her sword for Chase attacks. In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' Terra's strongest weapon, Apocalypse, was a sword--''Dissidia'', she can't even equip swords unless you buy the ability for her in the shop. However, you could make a case this is simply for gameplay diversity--the other nine main heroes are all melee fighters, and of the ten Terra makes the most sense for a spellcaster character.

** While Terra is a much weaker character in the 12th cycle compared to ''Dissidia'', in the 13th cycle she's far stronger, having more of a mutual compansionship with the Onion Knight instead of having to be protected by him, and toughening up her resolve sooner.

* FashionVictimVillain: The Emperor. What is he even wearing? A... four pointed cape? With a translucent pink ShowgirlSkirt? Gold... is that armor? With CombatStilettos? And the... what is that thing on the center of the cape? And the ''hair'', and the ... ''horns''?

* SpotlightStealingSquad - Cloud, Chaos and Sephiroth are given top billing in the manual and the ending credits apart from everyone else, which could possibly be due to their {{Celebrity Voice Actor}}s. The rest of the EnsembleCast is billed in order of game, heroes then villains.
** Early trailers focused a lot on Squall. Somewhat justified in his case, since at this point the only revealed characters came from ''I'', ''II'', ''VIII'', and ''IX''--among them, Squall is probably the most recognizable besides Zidane. Played straight with Sephiroth again though--his iconic firewalk as the Warrior of Light prepares to fight him was the climax of the first trailer.

** Gameplay-wise, in ''Final Fantasy VI'' Terra was a MagicKnight with all around high stats, an excellent equipment pool including heavy armor, shields and the game's best swords, and strong natural magic. In ''Dissidia'' she's a SquishyWizard with a focus on light armor and clothing for armor with staffs, daggers and rods for weapons, and an almost entirely magical movepool, only using her sword for Chase attacks. In ''Final Fantasy VI'' Terra's strongest weapon, Apocalypse, was a sword--''Dissidia'', she can't even equip swords unless you buy the ability for her in the shop. However, you could make a case this is simply for gameplay diversity--the other nine main heroes are all melee fighters, and of the ten Terra makes the most sense for a spellcaster character.
* CompleteMonster - The Emperor is just as depraved as he was in FinalFantasyII, if not ''more'' so, and unlike the official novelization for that game, he doesn't even possess a freudian excuse for his actions. He takes the classic villain goal of TakeOverTheWorld and runs it to the logical extreme--[[spoiler:Conquering all existence, by arranging for Cosmos to die, then letting the heroes kill off the competition including Chaos before they too die, leaving him as the only person in the world left alive so he can rule it unopposed]].

* CreatorsPet - An ironic case considering it could be due to fan popularity. But for anyone who's not a die-hard fan of ''FinalFantasyVII'', the cast from that game ends up feeling like this due to how much attention it gets. In the first game, [[SpotlightStealingSquad Sephiroth is the first villain to be announced and Cloud gets saved as a last big surprise]] ([[IKnewIt like no one saw that coming]]), and for ''Duodecim'', the director has stated he wouldn't have made the game if Tifa wasn't included, Cloud's fourth outfit was (with [[DistaffCounterpart Lightning]]'s) the first one revealed. That's without mentioning that, even if only as an AssistCharacter, ''VII'' is the only game with four characters present thanks to Aerith's inclusion.
** To top it off; ''FinalFantasyVI'' and ''FinalFantasyIX'', the games more popular with people who aren't into ''FinalFantasyVII'', don't get ''any'' new characters added to the roster in the sequel while ''VII'', ''VIII'', ''X'', ''XI'', and ''XII'' do. ''VI'' and ''IX'' ''do'' at least get new stages, which ''IV'', ''V'', ''VII'', ''VIII'' and ''X'' don't.

* DracoInLeatherPants - Sephiroth, [[FinalFantasyVII just]] [[CrisisCore as]] [[KingdomHearts always]], but his status as one flies over the head of [[FinalFantasyXII Penelo]], [[LampshadeHanging who simply does not understand]] [[EvilIsSexy his]] [[EvilIsCool appeal]].

** Jecht is a MemeticSexGod, being a muscular WalkingShirtlessScene. Even [[FinalFantasy Penelo]] thinks he "has the body of a bronzed god".

* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff - In America, the fandom has practically ''deified'' [[FinalFantasyX Jecht]] for the infamous "body of a bronzed god." In Japan, he's... just another character. Not ''un''popular, but not nearly as beloved.

--> '''[[FinalFantasyX Tidus]]''': ''[thinking]'' Suddenly, I felt the urge to yell. ''[suddenly starts running past Firion]'': "GRAAAAAAAAAHHH!"\\
'''[[FinalFantasyII Firion]]''': ''[no reaction at all]''

* PlayerPunch - Part of the manual hints Square has decided it's canon that [[spoiler:Celes was unable to save Cid]] in ''FinalFantasyVI''. And they do it to set up a joke.
** An example that doubles as TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: the inclusion of [[FinalFantasyVII Aerith]] allowed Square to show off [[DudeNotFunny a particularly nasty sense of humor]]... and they sure as hell [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqIr6BoGT3E didn't miss the chance to pull such a cruel joke.]][[hottip:*: Yes, Sephiroth is ''programmed'' to use Hell's Gate on Aerith whenever she's summoned. Make of that what you will.]]

*** And due to his weapons, looking ''exactly'' the same as they did in ''FinalFantasyXII'', not to mention he has ''a lot'' of them to his disposal.

* VocalEvolution - LiamOBrien has come a long way as Kain since his overly deep-voiced portrayal in ''FinalFantasyIV DS''.

** A pretty hilarious one comes from [[FinalFantasyVII Yuffie]], as she explains the [[RandomlyDrops game's Battlegen system]]:

-->'''Onion Knight''': "I've got something they don't, ''right here'', [[{{Nudge}} if you know what I mean!]]"[[hottip:*:He is, of course, pointing to [[InsufferableGenius his head]].]]

** The Bartz and Exdeath Manikins are called "Fallacious Wanderer" and "Fallacious Tree". That second one is ''begging'' for [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean bad "wood" jokes]].

* TheWesley - An ironic case considering it could be due to fan popularity. But for anyone who's not a die-hard fan of ''FinalFantasyVII'', the cast from that game ends up feeling like this due to how much attention it gets. In the first game, [[SpotlightStealingSquad Sephiroth is the first villain to be announced and Cloud gets saved as a last big surprise]] ([[IKnewIt like no one saw that coming]]), and for ''Duodecim'', the director has stated he wouldn't have made the game if Tifa wasn't included, Cloud's fourth outfit was (with [[DistaffCounterpart Lightning]]'s) the first one revealed. That's without mentioning that, even if only as an AssistCharacter, ''VII'' is the only game with four characters present thanks to Aerith's inclusion.
** To top it off; ''FinalFantasyVI'' and ''FinalFantasyIX'', the games more popular with people who aren't into ''FinalFantasyVII'', don't get ''any'' new characters added to the roster in the sequel while ''VII'', ''VIII'', ''X'', ''XI'', and ''XII'' do. ''VI'' and ''IX'' ''do'' at least get new stages, which ''IV'', ''V'', ''VII'', ''VIII'' and ''X'' don't.
** Lightning is getting similar treatment from the developers, to the extent that people are claiming that she stole Warrior of Light's role as the de-facto leader of Team Cosmos.
*** No "claiming" about it; she ''did.'' Her role is of TheHero in the game, she's front and center to the Cosmos side on the box art, and Garland is HER personal enemy.
** Firion in the first game due to him and his "dream" being brought up in just about every other story in Destiny Oddyssey.
** Vaan in ''Dissidia 012'' combines AmericansHateTingle with GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff. He takes the role of protector to Terra by fighting, defeating and helping her escape from Kefka, two characters that Western audiences love. This also has the effect of lowering the value of the Onion Knight's friendship with Terra in the next cycle, making him seem a substitute for Vaan.
*** His treatment of Onion Knight isn't very impressive either. The Onion Knight prefers to be treated as an equal by the other warriors, and he is, to everyone ''except'' Vaan who talks down to him, encourages him to not work as hard as the "adults" and either ignores or doesn't notice the Onion Knight's paper-thin requests that he knock it off.

* CrackIsCheaper - ''Duodecim'' [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy#Downloadable_Content is definitely going in that direction.]]